Fascism, Plutocracy, or Autocracy

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I know that the USA is no longer a democratic republic, but are we now living in a fascist State, a plutocracy, an autocracy, or all three?

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I know that the USA is no longer a democratic republic, but are we now living in a fascist State, a plutocracy, an autocracy, or all three?

I'd say yes to the first two, but need clarification what you mean by autocracy.

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Prof. Sheldon Wolin (Princeton) calls it inverted totalitarianism. That is, we vote to maintain a corporate oligarchy.....having an illusion of democracy....with the only real option being voting to maintain government that no longer functions on behalf of the people. A system. that requires no overt repression as long as the illusion of democracy is maintained.

His book, "Democracy, Inc." is an interesting though upsetting read.

Synopsis:

"Democracy is struggling in America--by now this statement is almost cliché. But what if the country is no longer a democracy at all? In Democracy Incorporated, Sheldon Wolin considers the unthinkable: has America unwittingly morphed into a new and strange kind of political hybrid, one where economic and state powers are conjoined and virtually unbridled? Can the nation check its descent into what the author terms "inverted totalitarianism"?

Wolin portrays a country where citizens are politically uninterested and submissive--and where elites are eager to keep them that way. At best the nation has become a "managed democracy" where the public is shepherded, not sovereign. At worst it is a place where corporate power no longer answers to state controls. Wolin makes clear that today's America is in no way morally or politically comparable to totalitarian states like Nazi Germany, yet he warns that unchecked economic power risks verging on total power and has its own unnerving pathologies. Wolin examines the myths and mythmaking that justify today's politics, the quest for an ever-expanding economy, and the perverse attractions of an endless war on terror. He argues passionately that democracy's best hope lies in citizens themselves learning anew to exercise power at the local level."

http://press.princeton.edu/titles/8606.html

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Quote proud.liberal:

I know that the USA is no longer a democratic republic, but are we now living in a fascist State, a plutocracy, an autocracy, or all three?

Sorry, I had a brain fart on the word autocracy. A quick visit to Wikipedia helped: "An autocracy is a form of government in which one person possesses unlimited power. An autocrat is a person (as a monarch) ruling with unlimited authority.The term autocrat is derived from the word autokrato-r ( "self-ruler", or "one who rules by himself"). It is distinct from oligarchy ("rule by the few") and democracy ("rule by the people")."

I would also agree that we are moving towards an autocracy, as the president's power continues to grow. If the president does it, it's legal. Sounds like an autocrat to me.

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As politically ignorant as many people especially the right is you might as well use communism or communist where you might want to use fascist. Using that term when describing a corporate state might actually rally righties into the correct outlook. They tend to bristle if you call a company fascist but if you call it corporate communism they might get it.

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The only thing saving us at the moment is that we have the vote... but the majority of sheep are easily brainwashed.

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Do you vote for the Dem wing of the Corporate Party, or the Republican wing of the Corporate Party?

Capturing one wing or the other would be beneficial..That begins at the local level....where few usually participate.

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