9-7-10 Thom, I agree with most everything you say on your TV program. It is good to know there is one other person that knows the truth. I wonder however, why no one ever seems to talk about Hydrogen power ? Why are there no hydrogen powered vehicles available in the U.S. ? The advantages would be that they would create more jobs than there are people to fill them, eliminate air polution, and completely revive our economy. There would be jobs converting gas stations to hydrogen fueling stations, jobs building automobile manufacturing plants, plants to manufacture hydrogen, jobs to staff the automobile manufacturing plants, & jobs for repair technicians. There would be jobs for a host of related services. There would be no need to import oil. It would eliminate oil poluting our oceans and killing marine life, not to mention birds. It would stop devastating people who live in the coastal areas who depend on the ocean for their livelihood, and make the environmentalists happy. There are at least 4 developed countries, poorer than the U.S. that already have hydrogen roads (examples: Norway, India, Canada, China). For more information see HYDROGEN ROAD on the internet, specifically HYNOR (hydrogen Norway). If the poorer countries can afford it, then why cant the richest country (the U.S.) ? Sincerely, Dave
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9-7-10 Thom, I agree with most everything you say on your TV program. It is good to know there is one other person that knows the truth. I wonder however, why no one ever seems to talk about Hydrogen power ? Why are there no hydrogen powered vehicles available in the U.S. ? The advantages would be that they would create more jobs than there are people to fill them, eliminate air polution, and completely revive our economy. There would be jobs converting gas stations to hydrogen fueling stations, jobs building automobile manufacturing plants, plants to manufacture hydrogen, jobs to staff the automobile manufacturing plants, & jobs for repair technicians. There would be jobs for a host of related services. There would be no need to import oil. It would eliminate oil poluting our oceans and killing marine life, not to mention birds. It would stop devastating people who live in the coastal areas who depend on the ocean for their livelihood, and make the environmentalists happy. There are at least 4 developed countries, poorer than the U.S. that already have hydrogen roads (examples: Norway, India, Canada, China). For more information see HYDROGEN ROAD on the internet, specifically HYNOR (hydrogen Norway). If the poorer countries can afford it, then why cant the richest country (the U.S.) ? Sincerely, Dave
Ever hear of special interests? The Corporate State exists to serve its clientele..... existing corporations. That's the foundation of the Chicago School of Economics and its political implimentation....neo-liberalism adopted by both parties..
A hydrogen corp.. with bigger clout than the oil industry would get a seat at the table.. If oil companies decide to diversfy into full-scale hydrogen production...it's a done deal.
Solutions in opposition to "special interests", no matter how workable, won't be considered....as in Health Care Reform that wasn't and Financial Reform that isn't.
Retired Monk - "Ideology is a disease".
Also we need to remember that, so far, there are areas of this market that alternative energy sources are simply incapable of replacing right now.
Now granted, this is a much smaller piece of the pie when compared to the average automobile consumer, but there will ALWAYS be a very profitable market for those who wish to have fun with their right foot. An unfortunate side-effect of hydrogen powered engines is that they simply don't generate nearly the power output of an otherwise identical gasoline powered engine. From a sheer power output standpoint, if we had been driving electric and hydrogen powered cars for the last 100 years, and a company just now introduced gasoline powered engines, it would be hailed as a huge advancement in technology. And every car manufacturer out there depends on vehicles to produce horsepower figures that appeal to their specific buyers.
We also need to remember the commercial truck market. Many of these vehicles are workhorses that REQUIRE large amounts of low end torque and the ability to maintain these power figures for long, extended periods of time, whether it's an 18-wheeler semi or a light-duty construction truck. Which is also why a large majority of these vehicles are equipped with diesel engines, as they inherently produce tremendous amounts of power at much lower working RPM's.
Hydrogen power is absolutely something that is feasible but it is only a slice of the pie. I welcome it's potential as an option, but you couldn't pay me to assume that it can even be remotely considered as a replacement platform.
Probably, at some point between $5 and $50 a gallon, we'll switch over to something else as a matter of national survival....or be among the most destitute people on earth...reliant on oil...and no way out of our beggary..
The average meal travels 1,500 miles source to table. It takes 75 gallons of oil to raise a steer on a feed lot. It takes 40,000 gallons of diesel to plant, maintain, fertilize and harvest a large field of soy beans.
There will be some changes...planned or forced.when production begins declining in relation to demand.
When beggary and food shortages become widespread, its usually an indicator to the power brokers off any country that something has to be done to maintain domestic tranquility. The choices are usually reform, technological change or the military..
Retired Monk - "Ideology is a disease".
The bottom line is once again any nation who isn't moving beyond the primary dependency on oil and oil fueled transport is going to be left in the dust.
No matter how intelligently worded the conservative argument may be for staying with the status quo, it seems to some how convey a sense of fear of change and societal advancement.
After living in Europe, I am constantly astounded at how "behind the times" America appears on so many levels. Transport, infrastructure, communication.
When the automobile was first invented, I wonder who were the last people to embrace it as a form of transport?
"The horse is here to stay, the automobile is only a fad."