Christofascism

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Thom and a caller were talking about Christian Conservativism this morning and so I found this interesting article in Wiki about Christofascism partly explaining today's very tight ties between the Christians and Republicans. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christofascism

History:

Chris Hedges and David Neiwert observe the beginnings of American Christofascism during the Great Depression, when Americans espoused forms of fascism that were "explicitly 'Christian' in nature."[15]:88 Hedges writes that "fundamentalist preachers such as Gerald B. Winrod and Gerald L.K. Smith fused national and Christian symbols to advocate the country's first crude form of Christo-fascism."[16]:140 Smith's Christian Nationalist Crusade said that "Christian character is the basis of all real Americanism."[16]:140 Another prominent advocate of Christofascism was William Dudley Pelley.[15]:88

By the late 1950s, followers of these philosophies became the John Birch Society, whose policy positions and rhetoric have greatly impacted modern dominionists.[16]:140 Likewise, thePosse Comitatus movement began with former associates of Pelley and Smith.[15]:90 The 1980s saw the Council for National Policy[16]:140 and the Moral Majority[17][18] carry on the tradition, while the patriot movement and militia movement represented efforts to mainstream the philosophy in the 1990s.

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Not all christians obviously.. But there is a very strong meme making a group of fundy xians that seek to take over America.. This is because of a meme change years ago that spread across multiple xian denominations like wildfire.. The old meme was that things will get to be their worst, then true believers will be saved.. The new meme drives many fundies to take ovver the government, because they must rule in Jesus' name, and reign in peace for 1000 years, then he will come and save true believers.. I think the is the basis for many of the core fundy xian supporty for republicans. I suspect many more other fundy xians simply "follow" as tyhey are used to doing.. This class fo people will vote for republicans no matter how many people republicans kill via wars and lack of medical /etc (look at how fundys voted for hitler).. This being said, today republicans are the worst kind of criminals, and they are simply "using" the faith of these fundamentalists (for the most part; IE: I am sure some politicians are sincere fundys).. Yes, a can of words..

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The problem of sectarian religion is that it serves those out of power who often have good sociological reasons for resenting the opinion of the dominant culture about them. For those outside the participation in power, sectarian religion provides an alternative narrative where their humanity is fully affirmed. With the Black Church, for example, its continuing importance in Black community and politics is rooted in the fact that it was where Liberation and Freedom were embraced by slaves. The struggle for full participation continues to have strong clergy leadership, and we do not see any serious problem of religion and politics there.

In the real world, black churches are a mixed bag today. Homophobia has aligned some with the Religious Right despite the history of racism. "Faith based initiatives" included bribing some "pastors" to split the black vote. Still, gospel music and civil rights continue to go together very well.

For White people out of or on the fringe of power, sectarian religion's affirmation includes racism because what is "special" about these people is not symbolically different from the dominant population. They are also White, Christian and "entitled." What the White sect does is change the designation of the entitled. Instead of the secular White power structure, they would impose their own. The "secular" fails in its moral core, and all the ills of the nation and the suffering of these "losers" can be explained by their religious destiny as the chosen people.

Hence, the appeal of this stuff. You get to be in on a very big thing instead of being a marginal citizen on the edges of power. The idea that there is a "destiny" to which America is being called in Empire is present in the PNAC crowd. Why would the outsiders to power not have the same dream?

Like a photo negative Jesus, the Right is wrong about everything biblical. Why people believe what they do has little to do with anything the Bible says.

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These same goons attacked the social justice ministries of the Mainline in the 70's, pretending to be lay based protests against "Marxist" clergy. They were full of crap and lied out their butts, but the money was cut off for social action ministry and churches turned inward and personal instead of being about the world and justice.

Unless clergy work to make lay leadership work, they tend to get treated like "the boss" and looked to for ideas of what the church should do. If they are within the conventional, that is. If "the boss" were to push a social action agenda, it would not work. But, if the pastor is more holy than others and the agenda is religion, he will find followers. He will become the charismatic leader of a cult.

Churches tend to lack any real mission vision today. They have dreams and memories, but they do not understand their competence in the present moment, so they pitch "God" as the answer. The brand is general enough to let others fill in the blanks, and as chief of sales for God, the charismatic leader gets to be closer to the Power. Personal spirituality becomes narcissism.

Regressive development marks the "Belief" churches where doubt is overcome with passion. If the culture of the "faith community" is childish, the pastor will be the parent.

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Not all christians obviously.. But there is a very strong meme making a group of fundy xians that seek to take over America.. This is because of a meme change years ago that spread across multiple xian denominations like wildfire.. The old meme was that things will get to be their worst, then true believers will be saved.. The new meme drives many fundies to take ovver the government, because they must rule in Jesus' name, and reign in peace for 1000 years, then he will come and save true believers.. I think the is the basis for many of the core fundy xian supporty for republicans. I suspect many more other fundy xians simply "follow" as tyhey are used to doing.. This class fo people will vote for republicans no matter how many people republicans kill via wars and lack of medical /etc (look at how fundys voted for hitler).. This being said, today republicans are the worst kind of criminals, and they are simply "using" the faith of these fundamentalists (for the most part; IE: I am sure some politicians are sincere fundys).. Yes, a can of words..

Yes, I believe most RW xians are followers. The pastors basically directly or indirectly lead them in RW xian politics. But if you think about it RW policies are attractive to pastors because the church is basically competing with the state.They figure that the higher the state taxes the less in tithes donations the church will get. The MORE people the state keeps out of poverty and distress the LESS "customers" the church will get. And especially the higher the personal income taxes go, the more these mega church pastors will have to pay. (I dont know if they are tax exempt though).

But I found this great post at Democratic Underground explaining exactly how the big money corporatists (with the Libertarian KOCH brothers leading the way of course) are behind this whole movement. Here's an excerpt.

KOCHROACHES WANT DOMINION TOO!

."......Anyway, I find it wild that Koch keep coming up as bank rollers for GOP/Tea Baggers, John Birch Society, AFP... and now the Moral Majority (MM,RR,CC, FF... ) The Kochs are supposed to be Libertarian, but I am thinking that they are just into whatever protects their money............."

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Religions are nothing more than mind control devices that kings cooked up because they were cheaper to use than a bunch of thugs to keep the minions in line. Besides there was always a chance their thugs might turn on them. Just tell people that if they don't behave there is a dark world of fire and brimstone awaiting them after death and that there is a "guy in the sky" that keeps track of what they do just like Apple and Google.

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Religions are nothing more than mind control devices that kings cooked up because they were cheaper to use than a bunch of thugs to keep the minions in line. Besides there was always a chance their thugs might turn on them. Just tell people that if they don't behave there is a dark world of fire and brimstone awaiting them after death and that there is a "guy in the sky" that keeps track of what they do just like Apple and Google.

No, apparently its been around a lot longer than that.

Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful.”- Seneca (Roman philosopher, mid-1st century AD

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