Am I The Only Person Who Is Considering Leaving The U.S. Because Non-Progressive Policies and Values Have Gone Too Far?

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JC, thanks for the video. Had you posted that from the beginning or even explained what the hell you were getting at, I may have been a lot more understanding. Regardless of this fact, your video merely solidifies the intent behind the post I had made to liblady where this came up. Perhaps you should consider that the next time.

In the end, I really can't stand to interact with you in these forums because you simply don't even read what people are writing down. That is no way to have a conversation and, frankly, my blood pressure is more important than most the crap you have put on these boards.

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Regardless of this fact, your video merely solidifies the intent behind the post I had made to liblady where this came up. Perhaps you should consider that the next time.

I think liblady has caused enough confusion and turmoil here.

I called her mentally unstable earlier because of her outrageousness and seemingly disjointed thoughts. Right after that, I noticed she toned down the craziness in her rhetoric like if that was a cue to her that she was going to be outed as either a plant or troll or both.

After seeing what she has done within this thread I would wager to say that she is a plant or a right wing troll that is here to mainly make trouble and sow discord.

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Dominic C,

Thank you for your courtesy. The reason why I got down on myself earlier is because in general I am very much into workplace safety and the protection of wages for workers, what I was saying in those two posts was actually against safety and wages, so it's like," Ooops!" But that is the past, off into the future!

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Regardless of this fact, your video merely solidifies the intent behind the post I had made to liblady where this came up. Perhaps you should consider that the next time.

I think liblady has caused enough confusion and turmoil here.

I called her mentally unstable earlier because of her outrageousness and seemingly disjointed thoughts. Right after that, I noticed she toned down the craziness in her rhetoric like if that was a cue to her that she was going to be outed as either a plant or troll or both.

After seeing what she has done within this thread I would wager to say that she is a plant or a right wing troll that is here to mainly make trouble and sow discord.

I didn't have much a problem with her. I am willing to engage with and disagree with someone as long as they are actually engaging in the conversation. I didn't agree with anything she said but the interactions I had with her, she didn't once gloss over a post and not read it and she never used a logical fallacy (with me) to attempt to prove her point. I would rather talk to a conservative like that than a liberal who can't seem to read more than two sentences at a time.

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Regardless of this fact, your video merely solidifies the intent behind the post I had made to liblady where this came up. Perhaps you should consider that the next time.

I think liblady has caused enough confusion and turmoil here.

I called her mentally unstable earlier because of her outrageousness and seemingly disjointed thoughts. Right after that, I noticed she toned down the craziness in her rhetoric like if that was a cue to her that she was going to be outed as either a plant or troll or both.

After seeing what she has done within this thread I would wager to say that she is a plant or a right wing troll that is here to mainly make trouble and sow discord.

I didn't have much a problem with her. I am willing to engage with and disagree with someone as long as they are actually engaging in the conversation. I didn't agree with anything she said but the interactions I had with her, she didn't once gloss over a post and not read it and she never used a logical fallacy (with me) to attempt to prove her point. I would rather talk to a conservative like that than a liberal who can't seem to read more than two sentences at a time.

Well I am happy to see that some of you can engage her but it was the way she was engaging in debate that really bothered me. It just seemed that once I labeled her as being off kilter she immediately became more logical and reasonable.

It could be that she realized that she was over the top and honestly toned it down so that her debates would be debates and not merely rants that often made no sense. I can understand that too since our tempers can get the best of us and make us look crazy until somebody points it out.

It just seemed to me the way she was able to change personas so quickly made me wonder if she was just "acting" crazy to derail and confuse. Maybe I'm just paranoid but I was thinking that's exactly what a paid plant may do and there are many from the right.

As far as your conversation with JC goes, I really don't know what to say because I definitely do not know enough about economics to address that matter. My training is in developemental psychopathology for the most part and economic theory is way over my head.

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Dominic C,

Thank you for your courtesy. The reason why I got down on myself earlier is because in general I am very much into workplace safety and the protection of wages for workers, what I was saying in those two posts was actually against safety and wages, so it's like," Ooops!" But that is the past, off into the future!

Sometimes I notice that you seem to doubt yourself often but you need to give yourself much more credit!

As I said, you debate in a fair and courteous manner and there is much for me to learn from you in that respect.

Whether we agree or disagree I know I can have a logical and civil conversation with you.

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She totally ignores me....because the reality that I offer to help her tweak her misguided world view, pokes way too hard at the delusional world that she and many others live in.....thanks in a good part to the loud angry delusional , and down right nasty right wing media.....which we all subsidize....

isn's it ironic......?

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good riddance.......you don't under stand post modern economic equations, they are touched on in that video....and you haven't addressed the flaws in government accounting that takes training

Peace.....bro....Peace...out...

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I don't drive..that's why I love Australia....you can be a first class citizen and a pedestrian....

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....and you say that because your erroneous conclusion is worse than prejudical judging? hmmm......also see my updated comment ...#209...

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your reply proves that your hypocritical paranoid world view.....ISN'T.....working for you... oh the insanity of making a value judgement to someone that you don't know....and probably.....with that attitude.....WILL never know...and the patience required do deal with evil in this world......

choose life........

Death and life are in the power of the tongue and the written word, therefore the wise proceed therein with care ......ancient proverb

....... Peace.....

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Tuesday, May 31, 2011

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Costa Rica Expats
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Moving to Costa Rica
To Retire abroad in a place like Latin America certainly has its benefits, but its important to be realistic and realize not everything is going to go smooth on its own. As an American moving abroad, there is a lot of research and planning that needs to be involved when immigrating to this new country. Located in Central America, this country is lavished with tropical beaches and prides itself on natural tourism, not the artificial kind. It's still listed as a developing country but Costa Rica has all the amenities needed for a balanced quality of life living but without the excesses and over development that is seen in developed power countries like the United States.

Costa Rica TipsMany services and items that are common back in the U.S. are even cheaper in Costa Rica, including phone services, daily living expenses and television to name a few. The only thing that one might consider as expensive is the cost of an automobile. Despite this small speed bump, Costa Rica is ranked every year as one of the best places to live in the Caribbean. Making up for the sheer natural beauty and warm ways of living with the locals makes this is an ideal place to settle down. Moving to this country is the first decision, all the other great advanatages just add up. There's no doubt why so many people have satisfied their Costa Rica fantasies! Posted by PanamaMark at 3:57 PM 0 comments Labels: , , , , Reactions:

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I just think it's time for me to leave. I had a clue, because I start crying when I have to get back on a plane after visiting the mediterranean area and return to suburban hell with loud giant trucks everywhere and fifteen disunited languages and voices all at once. Not to mention everyone has to have two loud barking dogs and a loud public cellphone conversation.

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So why did you return? Could it be you could not make a living in the Mediterraneans area?

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Minimum Wage should be at least $11.00 - 12.00, in urban California and New York City, etc. add 12%

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How do you expect a minimum wage of $11 or $12 in America is going to work when the average wage in China is about $1.25 per hour or $200 per month?

Raising the minimum wage always sends jobs to places that have a lower wage rate.

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I was checking figures yesterday and the top paid exec is the guy at Viacom with a yearly salary of $84.5 million. A person working at the federal minimum wage will earn $15k a year. That exec earns over 5600 times what the minimum wage person does. I can see maybe 50 times but no one is that good to earn that kind of money. The Viacom stockholders are fools.

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You obviously do not own any Viacom stock.

The Viacom stockholders are glad to pay the top exec. $84.5 million, because the Viacom stockholders get a 2.5% return on the money they have invested in the stock.

Banks don't pay any interest anymore.

Of course this is all irrelevant to poor people that invest their money in excessive wine, women and song, instead of stocks and bonds.

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Clirus,

I am going to let JCGOOD1984 defend himself here because it is his thread. However, do you have any idea how directly personal and insulting the statements you have made are? At least you didn't quote the Bible in doing so!

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The Viacom stockholders are glad to pay the top exec. $84.5 million, because the Viacom stockholders get a 2.5% return on the money they have invested in the stock.

Banks don't pay any interest anymore.

Of course this is all irrelevant to poor people that invest their money in excessive wine, women and song, instead of stocks and bonds.

That's irrelevant because you have no proof that paying a Viacom CEO $850K a year or only 56 times more than someone earning could not have produced that return. It may well have been the company paid 100 time more than it needed to. Again we have the one dimensional thinking of conservatives.

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Clirus,

I am going to let JCGOOD1984 defend himself here because it is his thread. However, do you have any idea how directly personal and insulting the statements you have made are? At least you didn't quote the Bible in doing so!

I get the feelinng this piece of garbage is a formerly banned poster.

I wonder if they can ban people by their IP addresses to make it more difficult for them to keep coming back.

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That's irrelevant because you have no proof that paying a Viacom CEO $850K a year or only 56 times more than someone earning could not have produced that return. It may well have been the company paid 100 time more than it needed to. Again we have the one dimensional thinking of conservatives.

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But then you have no proof that paying a Viacom CEO any less would have worked.

Again we have the one dimensional thinging of liberals/progressives.

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I am going to let JCGOOD1984 defend himself here because it is his thread. However, do you have any idea how directly personal and insulting the statements you have made are? At least you didn't quote the Bible in doing so!

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Liberals/Progressives sure have a thin skin.

Is it that you can't defend your positions or won't defend your positions?

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You know full well that I can defend my positions.

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what a waste talking to some conservatives. They twist everything to fit their image . The socialism is more in the corporations "corporate welfare " IT is so so much greater than what the public receives, yet the legislators and conservatives in general wont mention this part. Corporations wont give any of that back because after receiving millions to develop their businesses they continue to receive huge tax breaks.

DESPICABLE

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HAHAHA, the ignorance in your whole defense statements is only laughable.

thanks

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clirus,

I am going to ignore your posts until you stop being deliberately hurtful towards people. It is one thing to say hard truths with personal implications, it is another to say things that hurt people within the context of truth. I wish you well, and I hope that you find a happiness that makes it possible for you to empower yourself in a positive way.

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That's irrelevant because you have no proof that paying a Viacom CEO $850K a year or only 56 times more than someone earning could not have produced that return. It may well have been the company paid 100 time more than it needed to. Again we have the one dimensional thinking of conservatives.

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But then you have no proof that paying a Viacom CEO any less would have worked.

Again we have the one dimensional thinging of liberals/progressives.

No, because I was pointing out that you used one dimensional logic. A liberal wouldn't do that of "thing". Nice try.

A little video for you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_Ed6SlrUYQ

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Wrong....I am talking about a culture controlled by corporate fascists.... Is it putting people down because rude, thoughtless people, followed the offensive fashion car SUV thing and are now paying for their mistake?

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If you don't like SUVs don't buy one, but what give you the right to make a decision to ban SUVs.

Corporations make things for sale. If you don't like what is offered, don't buy. It is that simple.

I liked the Nancy Reagan statement "Just say no"

People want to think there own mistakes are someone elses fault and Democrats play on that irresponsible thinking to get elected.

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"So why did you return? Could it be you could not make a living in the Mediterraneans area?"

Response: Obviously I had to assess things.....make arrangements.....arrange my early retirement.....and I just decided 2 months ago that Malta, and Israel are my permanent homes .....I am in Israel for 6 months and Malta the other.....living my dream....I dont' ever have to get in a drive a dinosaur ever again.... In Israel ......It costs more to buy a croissant and coffee....then a one way bus ride from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.....thank you God! I'm in heaven here with my people.....

"How do you expect a minimum wage of $11 or $12 in America is going to work when the average wage in China is about $1.25 per hour or $200 per month?"

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How do you expect any employers to live with at peace with their consciences and for society to ever be cohesive when you oppress the poor with a loser's loophole.....that doesn't bode well ...unless one is amoral.....in our corrupt corporate sponsored greed- fest.....this is the age of deceit and hypocrisy......can you smell it? Isn't the murder rate high enough from class warfare.....why is the U.S. murder rate 520% per capita of Norway?....because the poor are oppressed in the U.S. 520% more .....

"Raising the minimum wage always sends jobs to places that have a lower wage rate."

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...and lowering or abolishing the minimum wage ...which is the ultimate corporate conservative despotic agenda for a future of slaves........isn't that a bit regressive? we did fine in 1964......when the $1.25 minimum wage was the same buying power as $11.50 is today......but I guess we were a socialist country back then,,,for being fair......

Wake up....we are on the very edge of a labor revolt....if the record making corporate profits don't at trickle down least put us to par with 1964.....I hope the greedy enjoy their hoarding.....because....after death..it's going to be.....shall we say....dark and shabby and really uncomfortable.....

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"How do you expect a minimum wage of $11 or $12 in America is going to work when the average wage in China is about $1.25 per hour or $200 per month?"

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How do you expect any employers to live with at peace with their consciences and for society to ever be cohesive when you oppress the poor with a loser's loophole.....that doesn't bode well ...unless one is amoral.....in our corrupt corporate sponsored greed- fest.....this is the age of deceit and hypocrisy......can you smell it? Isn't the murder rate high enough from class warfare.....why is the U.S. murder rate 520% per capita of Norway?....because the poor are oppressed in the U.S. 520% more .....

The self righteous that use religion as a tool to justify their actions are the epitome of evil and are the very enemy of all democratic thinking.

I don't like drawing comparisons to the Nazis because the absolute horrors of the Holocaust but this is the exact line of thinking and propoganda that was pushed by them. They used Christianity to push and justify their agenda and injustice they were carrying out and it is precisely the same type of vile hatred and intolerance shown by this poster.

This poster is nothing more than a DISGUSTING troll that spews out hatred. A truly disgusting human being that is the enemy of democracy. This is not someone with just a differing point of view but with a truly different agenda that is centered around intolerance and hatred.

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I was checking figures yesterday and the top paid exec is the guy at Viacom with a yearly salary of $84.5 million. A person working at the federal minimum wage will earn $15k a year. That exec earns over 5600 times what the minimum wage person does. I can see maybe 50 times but no one is that good to earn that kind of money. The Viacom stockholders are fools.

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You obviously do not own any Viacom stock.

The Viacom stockholders are glad to pay the top exec. $84.5 million, because the Viacom stockholders get a 2.5% return on the money they have invested in the stock.

Banks don't pay any interest anymore.

Of course this is all irrelevant to poor people that invest their money in excessive wine, women and song, instead of stocks and bonds.

First off, the higher rate of return is more likely due to the labor of the workers at viacom, not anything the CEO did.

Also, I'd like to offer you up a big fuck you on your "wine, women and song" comment. I am living at just above poverty level. I am married, I have had maybe 4 drinks the entire year thus far, and I haven't gone to a concert or bought a CD in over 6 years. I am a graduate student with a child. My wife and I have gone on 2 dates since the new year because we can't afford to hire a babysitter. If I had money beyond what I need to pay for heat, shelter and food, I might invest in a company that I believed in that I knew exercised fair labor practices.

In short, pull your head out of your ass.

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...well said...brother !!!!!

...."scams are not scams until you know that you are in one." JC GOODMAN .. ..and boy is the corporatist scam movement prospering...for now... ....anyway

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Should public radio program in the public interest?

NPR is supposed to be our national public radio, but they're barely covering climate issues that are in the public's interest.

Only one month ago, a national New York Times/CBS News poll found that half of all Americans think that global warming is already having a serious impact. Sixty percent of those surveyed even said that protecting our environment should be a priority “even at the risk of curbing economic growth.”

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