How Democrats benefit from the Cycle of Poverty

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How Democrats benefit from the Cycle of Poverty

The Cycle of Poverty is poor people having illegitimate children that leads to more poverty.

Democrats say they are trying to help the poor, but I believe Democrats benefit from poverty so they are not about to eliminate poverty.

Democrats get the poverty vote by offering all kinds of programs for poor people. A woman has an illegitimate child and the Democrats offer Socialism. Already, one slave to the Democratic Party and one future slave have been produced. The Democrats have to hire five new social workers to administer the Socialism so you are now at six slaves to the Democratic Party and one future slave.

In order to get more people into poverty, the Democratic party appoints judges that legalize adultery and homosexuality. Hollywood makes big money off of pornography that is ploughed back into the Democratic Party.

Now the Democratic Party has Money for campaigns and Slaves for votes.

Democrats have no incentive to break the Cycle of Poverty, but rather is offer enough to keep the people alive in poverty.

Breaking the Cycle of Poverty must begin with eliminating the illegitimate children that produces the poverty. The Democratic Party has never rebuked illegitimacy, nor the pornography that encourages adultery.

Adultery and Homosexuality may be fun for a season, but it destroys the individual and a nation.
The disease, death, destruction and poverty produced by sin destroys the individual and the costs of Socialism destroys the nation.

No Christian should ever vote for any Democrat because the Democratic Party supports Atheism and Socialism. The Atheism was proved by the repeal of "don't ask, don't tell" and the Socialism was proved by ObamaCare.

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If you honestly assessed our 2 parties as to their worthiness of our votes based upon Christian criteria, you probably shouldn't vote for either.

But if you made a list and actually followed it, you would not be voting Republican.

Love your neighbor, not screw them.

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Quote clirus:The Cycle of Poverty is poor people having illegitimate children that leads to more poverty.

This post has been flagged for this sentence. I encourage the rest of the board to do the same.

clirus, please crawl back into your hole and never come out again.

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It is the conservatives who "benefit" from poverty because poor families and individuals can be suppressed more easily.

Your statement is about equal with saying that hospitals benefit from catastrophy, or Africans benefit from famine because they don't have to worry about obesity.

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The Republican Party has never recovered from the political sainthood bestowed on Franklin Roosevelt because of his wildly popular Social Security program. The GOP is determined to prevent the beatification of any more Democratic presidents, much less cannonization.

Let's face it: Republican saints were pretty scarce in the 20th century. Theodore Roosevelt, Dwight Eisenhower, and even Richard Nixon were minimally Republican at best. Taft, Hoover, Ford, and G.H.W. Bush were one-term failures. Harding was a crook and a philanderer. Saint Ronnie raised taxes and made nice with the commies, increasing the size of the federal government and its debt in the process.

That leaves only Mr. Coolidge. I don't anticipate anybody putting his face on a coin or Mount Rushmore anytime soon.

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...yeah, and the blood sucking..... crushing, corporatist despotic global bloc agenda...that lines the pockets of "conservatives".....don't benefit from poverty....from the sub-minimum living wage...and the grqwing third world disparity here in the corrupt crumbling empire...that used to be decent.........pre Bush/Reagan/ Cheney crime family years....?

They created the increasingly growing poverty here over the last 30 years out of thin air.......

how do you sleep at night?....with your delusional, inane false dicjotomy that you try to push here,,,,,you are in the wrong marketplace..

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I found the whole post to be offensive and would prefer not to read any more bigotry and hate mongering that is so contrary to the spirit of T. H. and his fans. I request that the barbarian be banned.

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I found the whole post to be offensive and would prefer not to read any more bigotry and hate mongering that is so contrary to the spirit of T. H. and his fans. I request that the barbarian be banned.

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Atheist, Liberals, Progressives and Democrats are not tolerant people.

When a differnet idea is presented it is "Ban them, ban them, kill them kill them."

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They created the increasingly growing poverty here over the last 30 years out of thin air.......

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That is your opinion of povety, but I believe the Bible when it says poverty is produce by the failure to follow the commandments/doctines of the Bible. Romans 6:23 states, "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."

Adultery leads to illegitimate children that is instand provety.

Homosexaul activity leads to AIDS that represents disease, death, destruction and poverty.

What is your proof that corporations cause poverty, expecially considering no one is forced to buy the products of the corporations.

People in poverty need to quit blaming other people for your own choices. Atheists, Liberals, Progressives and Democrats need to quit making excuses for poverty people.

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WOW,, Please don't Ban people like this. We are much more well served having this type of narrow mindedness out in the open. I live in an area of upstate N.Y. where Racism and Victimization of the poor is Rampant, over the past several years, as it has become less acceptable to be openly Racist and hateful, these people have just been forced to keep their hatred closeted.

"better the Devil we know, than the Devil we don't"

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Another bible devotee! All right! I especially like the part about the rich guy, heaven, and the eye of a needle. Great story.

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"Atheist, Liberals, Progressives and Democrats are not tolerant people.

When a differnet idea is presented it is "Ban them, ban them, kill them kill them."

Response : you are deceived......then why is the murder, mayhem, and crime per capita rate in the blood thirsty US 9 times more than Sweden's?.....

Look how these countries stack up side by side here: http://www.nationmaster.com/compare/Sweden/United-States

....here there is no way, that you will prosper by planting any pathological lies......we do research....

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Reminds me of Sean Hannity, who once said on his broadcast (with no irony at all): "Liberals say the most vicious, mean, despicable things about conservatives. I don't hear that kind of stuff coming from conservatives against liberals."

What a comedian.

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Quote wpanella:

WOW,, Please don't Ban people like this. We are much more well served having this type of narrow mindedness out in the open. I live in an area of upstate N.Y. where Racism and Victimization of the poor is Rampant, over the past several years, as it has become less acceptable to be openly Racist and hateful, these people have just been forced to keep their hatred closeted.

"better the Devil we know, than the Devil we don't"

I agree with keeping the nuts on instead of banning them but this person's outrageousness smells much moire like troll than wingnut IMHO.

It seems they are here as other plants to instigate and stall legitimate debate and conversations.

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Actually, it's the super rich who benefit from poverty.

"The money supply at any given time is finite. For one to have more, another has to have less. - Milton Friedman, "Money Mischief". That's from a conservative economist. It also happens to be true.

"A new commandment I give unto you. Love your neighbor as thyself" - Christ That is Christianity in a nutshell.

Christianity isn't about condemning one's neighbor...be they gay or having children out of wedlock. "He who dwells in love dwells in God and God dwells in him". - Peter. If love is present in any relationship, God is there. Some,, it seems, would object to the presence of God...

When you experience love with nothing else going on, it's then that you have a direct experience of what most call God. Forget the rest. It's merely commentary on ways to come to that experiencence....often mis-interpreted. "God is love" - Peter.

Christ noted that removing the plank from one's own eye took priority over removing the splinter from a neighbors..According to Christian Scripture, He's busily forgiving..Many self-proclaimed .Christians are busily condemning. "By your own judgements ye are condemned".

However, "good Christians" don't have planks in their eyes. I'd suggest they may be so full of planks that's why the blind are leading the blind. LOL

Retired Monk - "Ideology is a disease"

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Christianity isn't about condemning one's neighbor...be they gay or having children out of wedlock. "He who dwells in love dwells in God and God dwells in him". - Peter. If love is present in any relationship, God is there. Some,, it seems, would object to the presence of God...

When you experience love with nothing else going on, it's then that you have a direct experience of what most call God. Forget the rest. It's merely commentary on ways to come to that experiencence....often mis-interpreted. "God is love" - Peter.

Christ noted that removing the plank from one's own eye took priority over removing the splinter from a neighbors..According to Christian Scripture, He's busily forgiving..Many self-proclaimed .Christians are busily condemning. "By your own judgements ye are condemned".

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Atheist want to promote the concept that God would never send anyone to Hell because God is a Loving God.

God is both a Loving God and a Righteuous God an will sent those that do not accept Jesus Christ to Hell for eternity.

God hates sin and will not tolerate sin in Heaven, and that is why a person has to repent of their sin and have their sins forgiven by accepting Jesus Christ as Lord/Savior and committing to following the commandments/doctrines of the Bible.

A person that habitually fails to follow the commandments/doctrines of the Bible is not or never was a Christian,

Homosexuality and Adultery are a failure to follow the commandments/doctrines of the Bible.

Atheists always consider the facts of the Bible as being judgemental, and try to destroy the messenger. Read the the Bible to check the accuracy of my statements, but don't listen to an Atheist to understand the Bible.

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Another bible devotee! All right! I especially like the part about the rich guy, heaven, and the eye of a needle. Great story.

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I like that part also.

Actually the Bible rebukes both the rich and the poor.

Proverbs 30:8-9 states, "Remove far from me vanity and lies: give me neither poverty nor riches; feed me with food convenient for me: Lest I be full, and deny thee, and say, Who is the LORD? Or lest I be poor, and steal, and take the name of my God in vain."

I believe Christians should strive for the middle ground of prosperity.

Anytime a poor person accepts money for a condition that could have been prevented, they are stealing.

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In order to get more people into poverty, the Democratic party appoints judges that legalize adultery and homosexuality.

I'm with AHH, but would inlcude this statement as being intentionally inflammatory since it contradicts the purported point and has no basis in fact (homosexuality has no impact on the creation of additional citizens).

Treating women as though they are lessers with no right to their own bodies - that's a poverty creator/sustainer.

There seems to be a lot of these "hate/bait" postings lately.

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In order to get more people into poverty, the Democratic party appoints judges that legalize adultery and homosexuality.

I'm with AHH, but would inlcude this statement as being intentionally inflammatory since it contradicts the purported point and has no basis in fact (homosexuality has no impact on the creation of additional citizens).

Treating women as though they are lessers with no right to their own bodies - that's a poverty creator/sustainer.

There seems to be a lot of these "hate/bait" postings lately.

Virtually EVERY post this person (and I say that loosely) makes falls into this "hate/bait" category and they bring nothing in terms of real debate to the table.

Their sole purpose here is to troll, inflame, and attempt to create chaos on the board.

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Virtually EVERY post this person (and I say that loosely) makes falls into this "hate/bait" category and they bring nothing in terms of real debate to the table.

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Atheists, Liberals, Progressives and Democrats always consider opposing views as "hate/bate".

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Clirus, unless you get that offenses have to do with harming others, you'll never understand Christianity. You might begin by sticking to quotes of Jesus rather than focusing on biblical references interpreted in a manner that are contradictory to His teachings.

Retired Monk - "Ideology is a disease"

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I can't get past that clirus actually believes that Hell exists... let alone all of the other goofiness. Some research into how the concept of Hell came into being may be in order.

One person such as a clirus does more damage to the the publics perception of Christians and Christianity than all atheists and agnostics put together....

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...yeah, and the blood sucking..... crushing, corporatist despotic global bloc agenda...that lines the pockets of "conservatives"....

This is your "truth" because you do "research"? Hello pot, this is the kettle calling. I guess there are not "progressives" that benefit from corporations....heck, Obama is one of 'em.

Dontcha just love blood sucking progressives? me too.

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Fasinating... Not too many people addressing the OP on the Thread. I find in interesting how quickly people turn to talk of Baning.

The OP has a bit of merit. Why does the Democrat Party carter to the poor and disenfranchised on a larger scale then the Replublican Party? Disregarding of course his finer points of his contention.

Obviously, the War on Poverty has made no gains or we going to use the New Obama Metric of accessing a program and merely claim we'd have more Poverty without the programs.

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Look at all the conservatrolls!

Sorry ran out of my Trollchow®!

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Quote Dominic C:

Look at all the conservatrolls!

Sorry ran out of my Trollchow®!

O Dominic.. mister "It seems they are here as other plants to instigate and stall legitimate debate and conversations."

Seems YOU are stalling Legitimate debate and conversation. I offered a fair question based on the OP. You could have chosen to simply NOT respond. Yet, here you are attempting to Stall legitimate debate. Mirror, Mirror on the wall, who is the one trying to Stall.

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Quote norske:

One person such as a clirus does more damage to the the publics perception of Christians and Christianity than all atheists and agnostics put together....

Amen brother!

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Clirus, unless you get that offenses have to do with harming others, you'll never understand Christianity. You might begin by sticking to quotes of Jesus rather than focusing on biblical references interpreted in a manner that are contradictory to His teachings.

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But God the Father, Jesus the Son that the Holy Spirit are one and the same.

Some see contridiction in what Jesus says in the New Testament and what God says in the Old Testament but that is easily resolved by understanding that the New Testament represents attitudes a Christian should have and the Old Testament represents the actions of Civil Law that Christians should support when tolerance fails or when dealing with Atheists.

I believe the Bible teaches all things should be dealt with by the following three levels of action;
1) If it is good - accept it and nourish it.
2) If it is evil - rebuke it but tolerate it.
3) If it threatens your existence - destroy it before it destroys you. This is self defense, which both the individual and society have a right and responsibility to do.

The first two are from the New Testament of the Bible and represent the Law of Love. The third is from the Old Testament of the Bible and represents the Law of Purity/Self Defense. The New Testament deals more with personal responsibility (spiritual attitudes) and the Old Testament deals more with the preservation of society (physical actions). The Old Testament and the New Testament together present God's Law, a means of survival for a person, a nation and a world. No one should be forced to be a Christian, but all should be judged by Civil Law based on Christian Principles. All rebuke by Christians should be based on scripture from the Bible.

Tolerance is allowing for a mistake. Too much tolerance is a mistake. Tolerance is allowing for a mistake, too much tolerance is accepting an habitual mistake (Atheistic Lifestyle of sin).

The Church should rebuke sin/evil in obedience to God and the State should rebuke/execute evil/sin for health, safety and economic reasons.

The Church should not execute and the State should not define morality.

The Church should rebuke and define morality based on scripture from the Bible.

The State should also rebuke based on scripture from the Bible, but in a Democracy, the State can be controlled by either Christians or Atheists. If Christians control the State, Christian Principles will be encouraged and Atheistic Principles will be rebuked, but if Atheists control the State, Atheistic Principles (adultery, homosexuality, abortion, etc.) will be encouraged, and Christian Principles will be rebuked.

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I can think of nothing more harmful to others than advocating or condoning homosexuality and adultery, knowing they both are very risky behavior because they lead to disease, death, destruction and poverty.

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Seems YOU are stalling Legitimate debate and conversation. I offered a fair question based on the OP. You could have chosen to simply NOT respond. Yet, here you are attempting to Stall legitimate debate. Mirror, Mirror on the wall, who is the one trying to Stall.

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Amen, Amen and AAAmen.

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Quote Telara:
Quote Dominic C:

Look at all the conservatrolls!

Sorry ran out of my Trollchow®!

O Dominic.. mister "It seems they are here as other plants to instigate and stall legitimate debate and conversations." Seems YOU are stalling Legitimate debate and conversation. I offered a fair question based on the OP. You could have chosen to simply NOT respond. Yet, here you are attempting to Stall legitimate debate. Mirror, Mirror on the wall, who is the one trying to Stall.

I have NEVER seen you posting here so...

You can go and look through various threads and you can fully see that I debate non-trolling posters whether I agree with them or not.

I don't need to waste my breath on whether a troll has a legitimate poistion or not.

Their method of delivery os that of a troll so I don't feed it.

If you want to have a legitimate debate on the topic, start a new thread and many of us will be happy to address this.

If you speak of "The Great Society" as "The War on Poverty" that ship has gone and left long ago thanks to people like McReagan.

Reaganomics is the reason why we have such a wide divide between the rich and the poor.

I have already posted too much from a topic started by a professional troll.

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I find it telling that conservatives are so cynical that they believe the Democratic party would perpetuate poverty for nothing more than to get votes. The title of the thread tells it all. The implication that ANYONE benefits from poverty is absurd enough, but to insist that it is deliberately created by liberals is assinine. The fact is, poor people don't vote for anyone and are little served by anyone on the ballot.

The author of this post seems to assume that because liberals advocate for the poor, they create the poor. And, because the universal problems associated with poverty exist in spite of liberal efforts, that means that liberals are causing them. What the author ignores is the fact that one party DID cut poverty in half in just a few short years, and it wasn't the republicans. And, it wasn't done with Republican tactics.

The republicans, after all, only have one tool in their box...tax cuts and more tax cuts for the rich. If we can't solve this country's problems with tax cuts, a republican ain't gonna do it. So, given Friedman's own words concerning a finite money supply, it makes sense that it is not the democrats who perpetuate poverty, but the Republicans who perpetuate poverty by making sure that as much money as possible moves to the hands of the few. What motive could they have for this cynical loathing of humanity that makes them deny their savior's words and sacrifice their own countrymen to this known failure of an iea that "greed is good"? Who knows? Maybe they're just pricks. I think the republicans know that the poor don't vote and want to keep as many off the roles as possible.

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Quote Dominic C: I have NEVER seen you posting here so...

You can go and look through various threads and you can fully see that I debate non-trolling posters whether I agree with them or not.

I don't need to waste my breath on whether a troll has a legitimate poistion or not.

Their method of delivery os that of a troll so I don't feed it.

Then appears you are not looking or we do not discuss the same topics. Even so, is this how you treat new people. “ I don’t know you, so you must be a troll” If you don’t want to waste your breath, then STFU and go away and make room for those with something to say.

I do not need to start a new topic, because I have already posed the question. Answer it or Don’t. You personal actions are for you to decide.

Really, you planning the Reagan Defense for a poverty rate that was same now as it were before his was in office. A rate that declined during his tenure. Needless to say that would be a fairly weak argument. If you had chosen to actually use it

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Once again, the posters on this board demonstrate astute judgment in rejecting the nonsense troll. If this is a sincerely deluded "Christian" who has been taught this line of heretical crap, I am sorry for clirius. There are a lot of victims of clergy and theologian malpractice on the Right, and it is hard for rational people to read the Bible and square it with what these folks claim they have been called to do in the name of Jesus. Norway may be extreme, but the material that gets treated as "normal" in the Christian Right is ghoulish.

The glorification of war and the Power Jesus of Divine Apocalyptic Judgment makes the tough guy Jesus "real man" homophobia into the Nascar Macho. Gayness is going to destroy us, the third level of "evil." Not just someone else's difference to be tolerated. The poor are crushing the rich, so don't care for them or they will just breed! The Armageddon Express cannot stop to feed the 5,000.

If the hope of clirius was to make us think about social programs and Nanny State dependence, I would hope he would be willing to rethink the Sermon on the Mount or the feeding of the 5000. The advice given to the rich young ruler may be more about the person than the money, but redesigning the camel door to heaven is not the work of the Lord.

As others have made clear, poverty benefits the wealthy and always has. In terms of power leverage for plutocracy rather than a shared power of participation democratic society, the elimination of all the shared power is the goal. We become passive factoids rather than active participants in their "game."

It is fascinating to see the obscenely rich blame the poor and do so with real anger and contempt. Somehow, they are being mocked by the humanity of the least of these and must debase them even more to feel "OK." Clirius, may you find peace and grace instead of this toxic line of crap.

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Quote Telara:
Quote Dominic C: I have NEVER seen you posting here so... You can go and look through various threads and you can fully see that I debate non-trolling posters whether I agree with them or not. I don't need to waste my breath on whether a troll has a legitimate poistion or not. Their method of delivery os that of a troll so I don't feed it.
Then appears you are not looking or we do not discuss the same topics. Even so, is this how you treat new people. “ I don’t know you, so you must be a troll” If you don’t want to waste your breath, then STFU and go away and make room for those with something to say.

Can you please find the exact quote that you say I made about YOU being a troll? Quit putting words in my mouth.

You need to STFU. Quit fucking making shit up.

I clearly state that the OP is a troll and asked you to make a new thread because I am not addressing that troll or what they have to say in the thread THEY created.

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Quote Dominic C: Can you please find the exact quote that you say I made about YOU being a troll? Quit putting words in my mouth.

easy enough.
Since your last post there was Poly (assuming you were not talk about him), Norske (clearly not conservative), In Vino (clearly not a supporting). Then My rephrase of the OP question. Certainly it comes off as you being a prick to me. IF by chance you do not want to own your words or thier imply target. I would suggest stop using generalized inflammortory Troll Posts for giggles.

For the Record your post right after mine reads:
"Look at all the conservatrolls!"

Looks pural to me.

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Quote Telara:
Quote Dominic C: Can you please find the exact quote that you say I made about YOU being a troll? Quit putting words in my mouth.
easy enough. Since your last post there was Poly (assuming you were not talk about him), Norske (clearly not conservative), In Vino (clearly not a supporting). Then My rephrase of the OP question. Certainly it comes off as you being a prick to me. IF by chance you do not want to own your words or thier imply target. I would suggest stop using generalized inflammortory Troll Posts for giggles. For the Record your post right after mine reads: "Look at all the conservatrolls!" Looks pural to me.

I wasn't referring to norske nor you here. You do the math.

If I misunderstand the other person's position my apologies to them as I see them coming down on the side of the OP but you see it otherwise.

I READ your post and you clearly state the OP is off kilter BUT has some valid points.

The fact that you want us to reply in a post started by a troll if they have a valid point or not is outrageous so I clearly asked you to make a new post if you feel it is worthy for debate.

Quit assuming what I'm saying and thanks for the compliment.

BTW, you're acting like the prick.

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Quote Dominic C:

BTW, you're acting like the prick.


Well, We should just chuck that up was the unfortunate byproduct of indiscriminate inflammatory generalizations.

The fact that you want us to reply in a post started by a troll if they have a valid point or not is outrageous so I clearly asked you to make a new post if you feel it is worthy for debate.

Other than the irony of you still posting to this thread, Do you really let other people dictate where and when you wish to discuss something. I can go an entire thread ignoring people that say nothing interesting. But the OP had an interesting point I would like to see developed. But Not enough to waste bandwidth creating a new thread.

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Quote Telara:The fact that you want us to reply in a post started by a troll if they have a valid point or not is outrageous so I clearly asked you to make a new post if you feel it is worthy for debate.
Other than the irony of you still posting to this thread, Do you really let other people dictate where and when you wish to discuss something. I can go an entire thread ignoring people that say nothing interesting. But the OP had an interesting point I would like to see developed. But Not enough to waste bandwidth creating a new thread.[/quote]

The OP may have an interesting point but it's not worth addressing it any further here in a serious manner because of the sheer hate in their rhetoric.

A new thread would be most appropriate.

I think I have mentioned that I am guilty of feeding the troll as well here but I really do not wish to further address them, hence my responses have become excercises to point out the OP as such.

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Quote Telara:Other than the irony of you still posting to this thread, Do you really let other people dictate where and when you wish to discuss something. I can go an entire thread ignoring people that say nothing interesting. But the OP had an interesting point I would like to see developed. But Not enough to waste bandwidth creating a new thread.

The OP may have an interesting point but it's not worth addressing it any further here in a serious manner because of the sheer hate in their rhetoric.

A new thread would be most appropriate.

I think I have mentioned that I am guilty of feeding the troll as well here but I really do not wish to further address them, hence my responses have become excercises to point out the OP as such.

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Double post is deleted.

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wow. Three posts on the same response. I hereby give you permission (as if you needed it) to start a new thread.

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Quote Telara:wow. Three posts on the same response. I hereby give you permission (as if you needed it) to start a new thread.

You DEFINITELY are a prick.

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Quote Dominic C:

Quote Telara:wow. Three posts on the same response. I hereby give you permission (as if you needed it) to start a new thread.

You DEFINITELY are a prick.


Mirror, Mirror on the wall. whose the biggest hypocrite of all.

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What is the purpose or are the purposes of the conservatroll(s) here? It's not like they can argue stupidity or bigotry into us....

Good try poly, but aren't you sewing pearls before swine?.....oh shit, that wasn't a biblical reference was it? Oh damn, I might be infected. If I start believing that liberal judges think that homos create poverty and therefore......ohhhh,,,,

it's all your fault Dominic C. Quit feedin em!

"The author of this post seems to assume that because liberals advocate for the poor, they create the poor." - D_NATURED - that's what they'd do. anything to win ya know...some know, others are learning...yes, they're pricks, but it's DRC that's starting to scare me...

Damn it Dominic C, you're still feeding them so I gotta agree with Telara, you're being a prick too. Just admit it.

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I think that the troll, paid or not, has done its job. I was going to ignore this, but I saw that there was major activity on these threads. I confess that ealier I helped create this troll by feeding it. I am sorry.

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Quote Telara:
Quote Dominic C:
Quote Telara:wow. Three posts on the same response. I hereby give you permission (as if you needed it) to start a new thread.

You DEFINITELY are a prick.

Mirror, Mirror on the wall. whose the biggest hypocrite of all.

You started the personal attack so that makes you a prick.

Case closed.

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Quote MEJ:

it's all your fault Dominic C. Quit feedin em!

Damn it Dominic C, you're still feeding them so I gotta agree with Telara, you're being a prick too. Just admit it.

True I am guilty for feeding it but I have stopped engaging the OP long ago.

I didn't make the cheap shot attack about a triple post...that's what I meant about being a prick.

I guess I'm a prick to them too but I'm just giving it back to them. I didn't start the fight with them but I won't back down when somebody calls me out personally.

I really don't mind being a asshole to somebody like that at all.

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Quote Dominic C:

You started the personal attack so that makes you a prick.

Case closed.

Really?... You're really going to try spinning something that is printed just above with time stamps.

look at my post:

Fascinating... Not too many people addressing the OP on the Thread. I find in interesting how quickly people turn to talk of Banning.

The OP has a bit of merit. Why does the Democrat Party carter to the poor and disenfranchised on a larger scale then the Republican Party? Disregarding of course his finer points of his contention.

Obviously, the War on Poverty has made no gains or we going to use the New Obama Metric of accessing a program and merely claim we'd have more Poverty without the programs.

NOW look at your post

Look at all the conservatrolls!

Sorry ran out of my Trollchow®!

I don’t know what your game is, You claim to have misread someone else post, it was his you were actually referring to. I suspect that is bullshit, but if that is your way to save face, fine have at it. Drop it already. Unless of course you want to dance about for a couple pages pretending to be offended that someone called you out on your inflammatory post.

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Stating that no christian should vote for a democrat because the democratic party supports atheism and socialism is about the only piece of self-righteous, zealot-driven, absolute disgust and anti-American sewage that anyone needs to read on this foul thread.

Go play missionary in Africa, you sick pusher of single-mindedness. Your god would be dissapointed.

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It is fascinating to see the obscenely rich blame the poor and do so with real anger and contempt. Somehow, they are being mocked by the humanity of the least of these and must debase them even more to feel "OK." Clirius, may you find peace and grace instead of this toxic line of crap.

Response

What you call a toxic line of crap is exactually what is stated in the Bible, as I have shown by quoting scripture.

A lot of people invent a god by only considering certain parts of scripture and thus never understand a God of both Love and Righteousness.

Atheists hate a God of Righteousness becaue it means there is a Hell.

Where is your scripture quotes to support your contentions?

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The author of this post seems to assume that because liberals advocate for the poor, they create the poor. And, because the universal problems associated with poverty exist in spite of liberal efforts, that means that liberals are causing them. What the author ignores is the fact that one party DID cut poverty in half in just a few short years, and it wasn't the republicans. And, it wasn't done with Republican tactics.

Resposne

I write because Atheists, Liberals and Democrats advocate Socialism as the solution to poverty and Christians, Conservative and Republicans advocate Christianity as the solution to poverty.

I offer proof that Socialism has failed and even allowed the evil of Atheism to flourish.

When you say one party DID cut poverty in half in just a few short years, I believe you are referring to the Clinton Administration. However you did not tell the whole story. In examining poverty it was found generational poverty existed where people had developed a lifestyle of living off of welfare. Clinton did not "get" them off of welfare, Clinton "kicked" them off of welfare by requiring them to work in order to get welfare. The problem with this was the welfare to the mother was changed to welfare for the children (Aid to Dependent Children) which was administered by the mother, so there was no change.

Socialism is a failure and America has got to admit Socialism is a failure by eliminating Democrats from public office, because the Democratic Party advocates Socialism and Atheism, even though it is obvious Socialism is destroying the American economy just as Socialism is destroying other economies.

I do not just attack Socialism but offer Christianity as a better solution. Accepting Jesus Christ as Lord/Savior and committing to following the commandments/doctrines of the Bible, prevents people from getting involved in the sin that leads to disease, death, destruction and poverty.

God offers the best possible plan for life on earth, but certainly sin must be rebuked because sin is pleasure for a season, but is disaster in the long run.

Both the Church and State must rebuke sin. The Church should rebuke sin/evil in obedience to God and the State should rebuke/execute evil/sin for health, safety and economic reason. America will fail if the Church and State say opposite things.

A good example of the State rebuking sin was the "Is there anything dumber than smoking" campaign. America needs a "Is there anything dumber than homosexual activity/adultery" campaign. Churches need to preach against homosexual activity/adultery.

American is falling apart because the government under Democrats favors Atheism and the people favor Christianity. A house divided will fall. I believe it is time for America to elect Christian Conservatives to control the government and reaffirm the motto, "In God We Trust".

Do you really believe Socialism is working?

PS I would remind you that the Bible rebukes both the rich and poor. Yes, Republicans do favor Capitalism as the best economic system because even though Capitalism may create unequal prosperity, Socialism creates equal poverty.

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The other way we're subsidizing Walmart...

Most of us know how taxpayers subsidize Walmart's low wages with billions of dollars in Medicaid, food stamps, and other financial assistance for workers. But, did you know that we're also subsidizing the retail giant by paying the cost of their environmental destruction.

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