Republican Policies Make it Harder To Sell Their BS to the Average Joe

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It's the one thing we have going for us.

As the Republicans are more successful implementing their policies and thereby widening the gulf between the extremely rich and everyone else, it becomes increasingly difficult for them to argue that their policies are good for most Americans. In fact, the last 30 years are a direct refutation of virtually EVERY economic argument they make today. Also, as Republican policies lead to higher unemployment and therefore greater dependence on the government, the popular Republican refrain "get the government out of your lives" sounds much less catchy to the ordinary person.

This really an inherent problem facing any powerful elite seeking to capture the levers of government within a relatively free, democratic system, but it's also the main reason hard-right policies always eventually get rolled back by popular protest -- usually before they can be made permanent. Their drastic results speak for themselves.

It is also ironic how the very conditions created by conservative policies tend to mute the importance of those once-powerful cultural and foreign policy wedge-issues that conservatives always run on in more prosperous times

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Well, if the Repugnants don't keep up the pressure, Dems will have to do the damage on their own. They won't have a whipping boy called bi-partisanship to blame..

A Democratic 90% majority in both Houses of Congress would be a good thing. The good cop/bad cop game would fall on its face.

"Single payer is off the table". That wasn't a Republican statement. "Moving on" rather than trying Bush and Cheney for war crimes, crimes against humanity and breaking the laws of our own country wasn't a Repugnant idea, either..

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Quote polycarp2:A Democratic 90% majority in both Houses of Congress would be a good thing. The good cop/bad cop game would fall on its face.

I agree, and what a whipping boy it has been during Obama's historic presidency. It's provided us with Bush's third term as Obama is shocked shocked I tell you that Republicans won't compromise.

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Unfortunately, you give people too much credit. No matter how bad it gets, they can always find a scapegoat. Not only do facts not matter, but presenting humans WITH facts that are contrary to their position make them take the position even more ardently. They've bought it completely up until now, there is no reason to believe it wont continue.

The numbers are already fictional. The ideas are already contradictory and wrong. Upping the ante doesnt change as much as you might think.

Consider the free market. It doesnt exist and it cant exist. So the line can always be, "The market isnt free enough"

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Unfortunately, you give people too much credit. No matter how bad it gets, they can always find a scapegoat. Not only do facts not matter, but presenting humans WITH facts that are contrary to their position make them take the position even more ardently. They've bought it completely up until now, there is no reason to believe it wont continue.

The numbers are already fictional. The ideas are already contradictory and wrong. Upping the ante doesnt change as much as you might think.

Consider the free market. It doesnt exist and it cant exist. So the line can always be, "The market isnt free enough"

Your point is well taken. But we have a nominally Democratic president thanks in large part to the undeniable failure of the Republican economic agenda. Too bad Obama's obsession with winning over independents and betraying the left has led him to embrace what the majority of the country rejected by electing him. Now the country is rejecting him as well since he is presiding over a mere continuation of the economic policies he was elected to undo.

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Well, look at the different styles of thought practiced by "conservatives" and "liberals." Conservatives tend to follow a leader while Liberals tend to want a consensus among many. Also, I think that conservatives actually wouldn't mind a concentration of wealth among a few elite people, because they view money and power as signs of "success" in life. From their perspective, why give help to the poor when being poor is a sign of failure? If any of you think that this is inaccurate or too simplistic, I would not mind in the least being given a better paradigm of political strife in this country.

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Loganonenation, you have identified exactly why I believe that conservative policies are destined to fail, as long as there is any semblance of democracy left in America, and there must be democracy in America to even merit the name. People can only have the wool pulled over their eyes for so long before they start to see the effects of policies.

I agree that a 90% Democratic majority in congress would prevent them from having that bipartisanship excuse for not getting things done to help the public. Even a 65% democratic majority would do it, and that is not unfeasible.

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Dr. Mario Kart, I am a social psychologist, and social psychologists study things such as cognitive biases. While the assertions you make may be true of some people, or influence peoples' thinking, we are in all probability talking about relatively small influences on peoples' behavior. In other words, a small minority of people may persist in believing in falsehoods despite evidence to the contrary, or even a majority of people may have a slight tendency to give too much credit to discredited points of view, but the main result is that people will accept the truth after seeing sufficient evidence. If you have evidence from psychological studies which contradict that conclusion, I would be interested in seeing it.

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Dr. Mario Kart says it well. And excuse me for repeating myself, but the irony is palpable. Republicans have become so efficient in getting their policies implemented, especially of late, and the effects have resulted in such rapid devastation of the middle class, it takes some major hallucinogens to believe things have gotten better for ordinary people in the last 30 years. Perhaps this explains the look in Michele Bauchmann's eyes. She must be flying high on psychedelic migrane drugs!

When even the most brainwashed are faced with dire situations, their tolerance for bs tends to go way down. Just as an example, when the majority of Americans are counting on Medicare to be there when they retire, they aren't going to be fooled by Ryan's bs that he's "saving it" for them by turning it into a voucher system. In fact, by claiming that he is going to get thrown out of office on his ear.

When the very survival of the majority of our seniors depends on making sure Ryan loses his next election and Repulicans stay out of power, believe you me he will lose and they will be kept out!

This is why the Republicans have no chance. The last election got them drunk with the possibilities and they started going after some of the third-rail stuff. They actually thought they could promise the elimination of Medicare and just ride the tea-party's racist sentiment for Obama into another Republican majority. What arrogant fools!

Sorry to say Obama hasn't behaved much better by veering dangerously toward those third-rails himself. His willingness to do this has truly bordered on the sociopathic at times and has led me to sincerely question his sanity. Nevertheless, he is by far the lesser of two evils.

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Loganonenation,

Your points are excellent, except one, the one about Obama being the lesser of two evils. The problem with lesser evilism is that there becomes less and less hope of finally achieving a good. My "philosophy" is that when confronted with a choice between an evil and a lesser evil, the best choice is to seek a third option that would be the least evil.

I acknowledge that voting for third party candidates can siphon votes that could keep a lesser evil in office, but the issue here is change and I see no other way towards that besides voting for a third party. If you have suggestions, I will gladly hear them.

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Instead of fighting the 2 party beast, change the system. Get initiatives on the ballot for IRV and Proportional Representation.

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You have a point Phaedrus76, but in order to change the system we will need people who do not fit the classical paradigm of "republican versus democrat." I do not fit that mold, so I guess that I will have to start being more active myself...

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Selecting the lesser of wo evils over the years has merely maintained the progress towards evil. A bit slower with the same ultimate outcomes.

Consuming a lower dose of arsenic on a daily basis still has a fatal outcome.

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Both Parties take their orders from the Bilderbergers.

What we will have under a Rick Perry Presidency...

Endgame

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1070329053600562261&q=Endgame+&ei=1t4QSPaoB5q2rAKJzaywBA

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Americans need to wak up to the Globalism connections in both parties.

Both horses in the race have the same owner.

That's why I a big advocate of the Constitution Party.

http://www.believeinamerica.com/index.php The Forum

http://www.constitutionparty.org The Official Website

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Constitution Party Promotional Video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_SobkISNrY

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We need as many people to participate in the political process as possible, whether that means advocating a "third party candidate" or one of the "two major parties." I agree with Phaedrus that the most improtant political reforms are to change the way elections are done to give other parties more of a voice. This will finally get us away from "the lessor of 2 evils" situation we find ourselves in. Anyway, if everybody voted, I doubt Republicans would win anything.

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Natural Lefty,

You kick rear end! : - ) What you said in post #16 fits what I am trying say like a glove!

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Thank you, Micah! I was trying to express what you, Phaedrus and Loganonenation were saying in a clearer way, since we all seem to agree on these fundamentals. Actually I could have been clearer. I need to add the connecting thought that political reform in terms of the way elections are done, should increase political participation by the electorate, by giving more of the people a real voice in politics. Another thing we could do to increase voter participation is what Australia does, making voting mandatory.

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Quote Natural Lefty:

We need as many people to participate in the political process as possible, whether that means advocating a "third party candidate" or one of the "two major parties." I agree with Phaedrus that the most improtant political reforms are to change the way elections are done to give other parties more of a voice. This will finally get us away from "the lessor of 2 evils" situation we find ourselves in. Anyway, if everybody voted, I doubt Republicans would win anything.

The problem is that when you are fighting EVIL, more parties only splits the vote, and allows for incredibly raddical groups to win elections with small minoritity agreement.

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More BS? I see now that the GOP is going to fight to "raise taxes". They want to put an end to the payroll tax cuts that of course all employed workers must pay. Their hypocrytical BS is killing me!

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no1ninja, I think the power-sharing found in multiparty systems, prevents one radical party from dominating the political scene. Voting for the party of one's choice -- proportional representation -- has the effect of radical parties having a small share of government power. However, in our winner take all system, it is possible for a radical party to dominate a particular election if the other voters split among several possibilities. I don't see radical parties taking over in multiparty systems around the world. What I see instead is more representative government which means more progressive policies in other nations, by and large.

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You have a point Phaedrus76, but in order to change the system we will need people who do not fit the classical paradigm of "republican versus democrat." I do not fit that mold, so I guess that I will have to start being more active myself...

You guess you will have to start being more active?

I hope you mean you are active and need to increase your activity.

If you mean you haven't been very active in local or other politics, besides pulling a lever, then you have no ground to complain. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem and also one of the evils.

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I am a bit chuffed to see the opinion of the Tea Party dropping like a stone.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/05/us/politics/05teaparty.html

We'll see about 2012.

The big problem is the red states that seem fairly impervious to voting in their own interests when it means chossing gay supporting, hippy, commie, slackers, in their opinion, as the alternative.

They probably see a ruined economy as worse than gays running wild marrying in their churches, and money given to what they call welfare queens.

Lots of them probably get aroused thinking about going survialist and living the woods and hunting squirells for sustance. A better choice for them then a gay, minority, socialist friendly country.

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The amount of fear being projected by the faux populism of the reactionary Right is a great indicator of their pathology. The Republican candidates provide a freak show compared to any rational policy differences. What they advocate is failed in practice but lives in advertising rhetoric, not only with those whose narrative is cultural fear but with those who have been so terribly miseducated about economics in the media.

We hear all about what makes a "business friendly" environment, but when we look around, the good economies have higher taxes and businesses look to infrastructure and educated workers. Unless they are in the sweatshop/plantation sector where strip mining the resources, externalizing the pollution, impoverishing the workers and moving on to the cheaper labor/unexploited resources in the next country.

I think a lot of people would like the Korten economic agenda were they not thinking hippie communes and gay sex. Gay marriage may actually destroy their orgy fantasies and make the reactionaries deal with reality instead of the culture wars. Socialism from the bottom up is about democratic ownership, not "state control." We have to confront the basic idiocy of seeing government as the problem if we believe in democracy. Most of the "small government" forces are just trying to deny us the right to practice democracy. We need to own the Commons.

The argument for the ownership of the Commons as a democratic foundation is purely about the value of our collective investment in our democracy. There is plenty of "private sector" left for Commerce, and owning the Commons employs a lot of people and buys a lot of stuff. It gives us more for less than renting this from private sources.

It is also time to confront the canard about the deficit and debt. As Thom says, it is a long-term problem while unemployment is an emergency. Further, if you put people to work they both pay taxes on their income and do not need the social services of unemployment and welfare. This saves the State a lot in the crisis and allows us to invest in our future instead of having foreclosures and business failures leave the economy to the vultures. The social consequences to economic austerity as the answer to deficit are too dire to be affordable. We have to make the case clearer in terms of real people's lives. And in terms of money well spent v. wasted.

Obama did not run as a confrontational candidate. He was purple rather than blue in his basic concern about the divided country. Everything he has done has been from that perspective. He may be wrong, but he is consistent. And as a relative newcomer to DC, his ability to reject the 'wisdom' of veterans is less than we think. He does not have the allies from previous deals or the longitudinal relationships with bureaucrats.

He does not have fast friends in the Democratic Party across the board either. It is not a party of unified message and purpose. For better and worse.

I wish he had tried it my way, and I think he would win as the Progressive alternative to Corporate more than as the Reasonable Man in the Middle of the Duopoly. I don't think Independents are "in the Middle." I think they are moving out of the DC circle, often with aesthetic disgust instead of political analysis, and are "independent" of concrete political thought for the most part. If Obama is aiming at the disgusted and alienated independent who wants civility and rationality, I think he needs to confront the insanity instead of trying to make peace with it.

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Obama did not run as a confrontational candidate. He was purple rather than blue in his basic concern about the divided country. Everything he has done has been from that perspective. He may be wrong, but he is consistent.

Hi DRC,

I would say that I agree with most of your positions and observations but wanted to state a little different take on this.

I think of him as a red candidate with flashes of blue that got dummies like me to vote for him in hope that he was going to at least attempt to bring about progressive policies. Many of us on the left who had left the Dems long ago were hoodwinked by the manner he marketed himself.

As you say, he never campaigned as a combative candidate nor did he ever mention that he was progressive or ever was. His marketing however, did allow and encourage us to project our "wants" and "desires" upon his candidacy and it was brilliant. As you say he has been consistent and really hasn't strayed from what he campaigned on.

As I see it, his core philosophy is essentially a corporate red but he sometimes uses seemingly pro-labor and progressive rhetoric to make us think and hope that he really has a progressive deep down in there. Then when we look at his appointments like Geitner, Summers, and Emanuel or the way the health care reform debate took course, we are reminded exactly who he works for and it certainly is not for us. The same can be said for the majority of the Democrats as they seem to be more intent on crushing liberals more that the Republicans and that is more than disturbing.

I am also not sure if he is "wrong" or made bad political decisions, but to the contrary, has been rather successful in pursuing his true agenda given to him by his corporate masters and has done so using that "good cop,bad cop" narrative. This is why I don't think he would change anything in a second term and probably cannot be counted on to change the composition of SCOTUS if he gets an opportunity to do so. He will be more interested in "compromising" and "taking a balanced approach" and will most likely appoint a conservative corporatist. His bosses would not allow otherwise.

I see him ever more as a corporate Manchurian candidate.

I hope that I am a cynic who is completely wrong on this but it becomes harder and harder to deny this fact. I find that I can only use excuses and be an apologist to reject this line of thinking. I don't want to believe this but it gets more difficult the more I see.

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Republican Policies Make it Harder To Sell Their BS to the Average Joe... and easier for the Democratic Party to sell the exact same BS to the same average Joe. And the wheels on the bus go round and round....

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Umlaut,

You make an excellent point! If the the only thing I have been doing was only voting, then I would be a hypocrite! But I have been doing stuff, such as donating some of what little money I have to political/charitable causes. Also, whenever I meet up with a person (outside of the internet) advocating the Tea Party, I talk to them about it. I also have been voting with my feet by refusing to shop at stores that I think are hostile to unions, such as Wal-Mart. Also, I ride the bus a lot, so as to support the efforts to help reduce pollution through car emissions. I am also thinking about becoming a vegetarian so that more food that is grown can go to people, not just farm animals. I am also thinking about other things as well. I am also watching less tv, out of disgust for the increasing amount of corporate oriented things that are being played about as news, such as "Dancing(?) With The Stars!"

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Is there anyone out there reading this who became a vegetarian, for the purpose of making a political statement? I know I can look it up on the 'net, but I wonder if anyone here can give me advice as for what to look out for, etc. ? I myself am not a vegetarian, but I am thinking about it. Advice?

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Republican Policies Make it Harder To Sell Their BS to the Average Joe... and easier for the Democratic Party to sell the exact same BS to the same average Joe. And the wheels on the bus go round and round....

Funny...and true.

Increasing the number of voters is a great idea. It would give a brighter rubber-stamp of approval on the presented candidates. Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum would be delighted. If would give them more legitimacy.to continue doing what they are doing.

The "managed democracy", the "illusion of democracy" as exposed by Prof Wolin, Princeton, Univ. is coming along as expected.

Princeton Univ. Press:

"Democracy is struggling in America--by now this statement is almost cliché. But what if the country is no longer a democracy at all? In Democracy Incorporated, Sheldon Wolin considers the unthinkable: has America unwittingly morphed into a new and strange kind of political hybrid, one where economic and state powers are conjoined and virtually unbridled? Can the nation check its descent into what the author terms "inverted totalitarianism"?

"Wolin portrays a country where citizens are politically uninterested and submissive--and where elites are eager to keep them that way. At best the nation has become a "managed democracy" where the public is shepherded, not sovereign"

http://press.princeton.edu/titles/9175.html

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"I myself am not a vegetarian, but I am thinking about it. Advice?" Micah

Well... I began slowly and cut down my meat consumption dramatically. My reasons were due to the horrific treatment of animals under the factory farming system... the same reason I only eat vegetables I grow myself or obtain from Farmers Markets or other sources I trust.

We raised our own cattle, pigs, poultry, etc. and treated them like pampered pets. Made it easy to cut down. If I wasn't able to raise my own then I would begin with a slow transition using organic, farm raised meat, eggs, and milk and cut down a little each month. If more people were aware of the cruelty and unhealthy results of the factory farming system...there would be many more vegetarians. The healthy side effects are an added benefit.

Best to pay attention where you obtain your vegetbles from also... starting slowly with learning how to cook and prepare vegetarian dishes is helpful as well.

If you get the chance, watching (Food Inc) (King Corn) (Death on a Factory Farm) are very informative as is visiting meat.org Good luck...

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I'm afraid that Wolin is correct. Just watch some television which is where most American get their news. Remember who owns the voting machines and the Supreme Court. We're screwed, but I'll take the lesser of evils anytime because the greater evil is much more painful.

Yeah, one cannot find the truth in between a lie and a half-truth, but it beats total delusion. Still,...I didn't believe that the tea party would really have success in 2010, but they did. It seems unbelievable that Perry, Bachman or Palin have any chance in hell to win the White House, but gravity doesn't require my belief to function either. I'd rather have Obama in office than any of the alternatives, that's for sure.

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If you want to see how correct Wolin is, run for Congress. Without monied support, corporate media support and approval by both, you won't get past your filing papers.

Democracy is limited to rubber-stamping one of the approved candidates.

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Umlaut,

You make an excellent point! If the the only thing I have been doing was only voting, then I would be a hypocrite! But I have been doing stuff, such as donating some of what little money I have to political/charitable causes. Also, whenever I meet up with a person (outside of the internet) advocating the Tea Party, I talk to them about it. I also have been voting with my feet by refusing to shop at stores that I think are hostile to unions, such as Wal-Mart. Also, I ride the bus a lot, so as to support the efforts to help reduce pollution through car emissions. I am also thinking about becoming a vegetarian so that more food that is grown can go to people, not just farm animals. I am also thinking about other things as well. I am also watching less tv, out of disgust for the increasing amount of corporate oriented things that are being played about as news, such as "Dancing(?) With The Stars!"

Thom brought up great advice that requires no money or a small filing fee and merely obtaining ten signatures.

http://waliberals.org/thom-hartmann-on-how-the-tea-party-took-over-the-gop/2011/08/10/

Become a precinct commitee officer. Your party and candidate may not win, but at least we could start getting some progressives with their foot in the door.

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That's the only way to have half a chance of reversing the rush to neo-feudalism. Voting alone won't do it. Progressives have to capture the nominating process and somehow still overcome primary challenges backed by corporate money and the best marketing campaigns money can buy..

They either do that, or face the merging of economic, resource and environmental collapse....and the type of government it will take to maintain even a semblance of order during that process. That "distant future" is closer than most realize.

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The silver lining in Managed Consent is that the management gets bored and lazy. Instead of keeping our illusions alive, they stomp on them and laugh as they sell us the next Lie. I remember credible deniability, back when they took lying seriously enough to fake honesty or the illusion of it.

Let's talk democracy in public. Let's make it clear that the Republicans have decided that democracy is unConstitutional, unAmerican and an insult to our Corporate Bosses. Their attack on government is an attack on our ability to govern ourselves and leaves us vulnerable to their ruler agenda.

I think most Americans like the idea of democracy, and if they experienced it I think they might even want to have more of it. Breaking the illusion of democracy out of love for democracy can be a positive discovery of the problem rather than despair at the impossibility of democracy, the Libertarian alternative.

My point is to stop making Obama the issue. Make democracy the issue and Obama's dilemma the illustration of why we need real change and not just better people in a corrupt game.

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I think the Wall Street protests are proving you right.

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99% of the population should be joining in.

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Natural Lefty, you claim that facts will change opinions, but in what % of people? Surely not all are the same. Hundreds of years of science and people still believe in creationism. Heck, it may be that the more conservatives know, the more they get wrong. I remember reading something about backlash or backfire... if I remember correctly, the big tipping point for a severly entrenched mind comes when the subject's life is preceived to be in danger.

It is a matter of life and death. So to all of you who are disappointed in our president and or think that the lesser evil is just as bad or that they win and we loose.....tell that to the person with the pre-existing condition in need of healthcare or the long term un- and under-employed or what the hell has Obama done so far? It is a matter of life and death, for the whole frickin biosphere. Not only should the unions be joining in the occupy protests, but every environmental group, every social justice cause, every watch group should be joining in.

Most of us want more egality, don't we?

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Natural Lefty, you claim that facts will change opinions, but in what % of people? Surely not all are the same. Hundreds of years of science and people still believe in creationism. Heck, it may be that the more conservatives know, the more they get wrong. I remember reading something about backlash or backfire... if I remember correctly, the big tipping point for a severly entrenched mind comes when the subject's life is preceived to be in danger.

It is a matter of life and death. So to all of you who are disappointed in our president and or think that the lesser evil is just as bad or that they win and we loose.....tell that to the person with the pre-existing condition in need of healthcare or the long term un- and under-employed or what the hell has Obama done so far? It is a matter of life and death, for the whole frickin biosphere. Not only should the unions be joining in the occupy protests, but every environmental group, every social justice cause, every watch group should be joining in.

And the Tea Party as well!

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Can someone tell me where I can receive the 'Republican Talking Points' that Thom refers to? I need to be more well versed on their propaganda so that when I debate 'Tea Baggers' et al, I can win the argument.

Thanks!

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Type in Republican talking points and do a google search. There's more than enought to keep you busy for a long time. Using common sense beats them everytime since they have very little or none of it.

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It's funny how Republicans just thought we'd all go silently into that New World Order sans the New Deal. Never in a million years did they consider the power of something like Occupy Wallstreet. They were even cocky enough to manufacture and embrace a fake movement -- a 100% corporate sponsored tea party -- to try to co-opt the despair they've engineered. Now, facing a REAL movement of the poeple, they are scared out of their witts. I love this wake up call they are getting. They deserve nothing less.

And yet all Republicans seem capable of is to re-argue Reaganomics even with 30-years of hidsight staring everyone in the face. Reminds me of Groucho Marx: "You gonna believe me or your own eyes?" Look for Republicans to lose BIG next november.

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