Zenzoe,you cannot remember what Ms Kavita Ramdas said,and you have been using it through out this thread? "The 1% isn`t the cause of sexism",is this what she is saying and you forgot? Does she also say to women of other cultures( than the West),that they should be proud and use their traditions? I can agree with everything she and Ms Vandana Shiva say about sexism,but i see no solution in their logic. The solution of changing people minds by saying no, show sucess in people who have the power to be responsible.With the gap between the haves & have-nots getting bigger by the minute,there is not to many responsible people that can just say no? Compare religion,how many people believe in doing right,but still do wrong? Ms.Shiva talk about the 1% western concept of power and control,this is universal,we all have that survival of the fittest mindset.That come from the first law of nature,"self preservation"! But we live and learn,the more we learn,self preservation start including ants,natural foods,women,clean water,have-nots,etc... Ms Shiva make the case for the 1% being the reason for a lot of problems and for them to obey the first law of nature,they need to expand their thinking in a natural positive way. The rich get richer and poor get poorer,what`s the solution? Just say no? We need a system where all the people can have "economic justice and freedom! We have that system,we can do more than say no,we can live as "Adam & Eve". How do we get rid of sexism without getting rid of the reason? Or system???