Time to pressure and boycott corporations that are stealing our democracy!

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Corporate donors to the Koch brothers-funded right-wing think thank known as the American Legislative Exchange Council – or ALEC – are dropping like flies.  On Thursday – Kraft became the third major corporation to part ways with ALEC – joining Coca-Cola and Pepsi. 

ALEC sponsors were put on notice this week, when the organization Color for Change called for a boycott of all companies that give money to ALEC.  The group is protesting ALEC-written right-wing Voter ID laws that disenfranchise minority voters, as well as Stand Your Ground laws that increase minority deaths.  Despite three corporations jumping ship in response to the boycott – several others like Wal Mart, Pfizer, and Reynolds are sticking by ALEC so that ALEC can continue laundering their influence-buying money for Republican state lawmakers. 

Time to ramp up the pressure and boycott corporations that are stealing our democracy.

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miksilvr
Links for this campaign and

Links for this campaign and similar ones against ALEC :

http://www.colorofchange.org/blog/2012/apr/4/colorofchangeorg-applauds-coca-colas-decision-pull/#

http://www.colorofchange.org/campaign/alec/

This campaign is almost at desired 100,000 signatures :
http://www.thepoint.com/campaigns/campaign-0-2695

http://usuncutmn.blogspot.com/2012/04/go-post-sign-petition-against-alec.html

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home page for Color of Change (includes actions in protest of handling of the Trayvon Martin killing) :

http://www.colorofchange.org/

workingman
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are you also calling for a

are you also calling for a boycott of the organizations that are funded by george soros and the like? 

 

or is this just one sided?

Karolina
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Is Soros a member of ALEC?

Is Soros a member of ALEC?

workingman
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Karolina wrote: Is Soros a

Karolina wrote:

Is Soros a member of ALEC?

no but he does fund organizations that hate america and want to fundimentally change the way america works, into some thing more like north korea. 

Art
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Quote:are you also calling

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are you also calling for a boycott of the organizations that are funded by george soros and the like? 

 

or is this just one sided?

Of course it's one sided! Why would anybody work against the interests of somebody who is on their side? Are you nuts?

Karolina
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workingman wrote:no but he

workingman wrote:
no but he does fund organizations that hate america and want to fundimentally change the way america works, into some thing more like north korea. 

By your description, it sounds like Soros corporations are on the same side as ALEC.

DRC
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bossman, we do get to

bossman, we do get to recognize who is funding what, so George Soros works against the interests of his economic class to boost democracy and undercut the corporate predation that ALEC promotes.  We will not boycott Soros, but we will boycott the ALEC Bullies.

Do you have a problem with this?  I hope so.  I hope you get really red in the face and pop a blood vessel in your rage.  I hope it drives you nuts--oh wait, it can't do what is already done.  But I really do want it to piss you off because you deserve it.

You have caused enough WTF moments with your idiot posts, so back at you.  May George Soros and Warren Buffett haunt your dreams.

davec/mn
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workingman, I doubt that you

workingman,

I doubt that you are a "working man", other than a shill for the corporate funded ALEC. You shills always go to the well and pull up George Soros, every time with out fail. Try to have an origional thought once in a while!

 

miksilvr
TELL CORPORATIONS TO DUMP

TELL CORPORATIONS TO DUMP ALEC !

The Center for Media and Democracy's PR WATCH has set up a web page that allows you to send letters to the corporate leadership members of ALEC (The American Legislative Exchange Council)

http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/632/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY...

The home page for PR WATCH is

http://www.prwatch.org/

WhitemoonG
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Thanks for the heads up.  

Thanks for the heads up.   With choices available,   I'll be sure to  shop even more at Wal-Mart and buy Reynolds.       As for Buffett,  he's no hyposomniant,    rather  the   best replacement for ipecac.  While smugly preening for the cameras while allowing leftists to cite him as supposedly paying less than his secretary (highly distorted nonsense), and sanctimoniously stating he thinks he should have to pay more,   blah, blah blah.....                   he  is still refusing to pay hundreds of millions ALREADY OWED, fighting the IRS in court for years to avoid it.

As for "right wing" voter ID laws, such as Indiana's, upheld by SCOTUS,  it's realy awful to "disenfranchise"   millions who  aren't "franchised"  to start with!    Not.

 

Art
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Quote:supposedly paying less

Quote:
supposedly paying less than his secretary (highly distorted nonsense)
Are you saying that Buffet actually pays an income tax rate that is equal to or greater than that paid by his secretary? Has he ben lying to us about that?
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he  is still refusing to pay hundreds of millions ALREADY OWED, fighting the IRS in court for years to avoid it.
Are you sure these hundreds of millions are actually owed? Do we just assume that the IRS is correct in what they try to collect? Isn't there an entire industry of tax law existing for no other purpose than to pursue disputes with the IRS?

You can shop wherever you want. We all make our choices. I don't care if Buffet appears smug. I never thought so. In any event, he's not running for any office. He can be as "smug" as he wants. But then, if this is important to you . . .

TheFirstLeftist
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Did ALEC invent the concept

Did ALEC invent the concept of self-defense so that they could make money? 

Let's say for sake of argument that Lobby X "buys" legislator "Y" and gets him to vote for a certain bill.  Does that automatically mean the bill is bad?  What if someone has bad motivations behind getting some bill passed but the bill is something you support?

For example, a racist may be against a hate-crime law.  I may be against such a law for different reasons.  Does that mean I'm a racist?  People who hate Jews may be against foreign aid to Israel.  I think foreign aid is unconstitutional.  Does that mean I hate Jews?  Does that mean we should support a bill because someone we don't like is against it?

workingman
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DRC wrote: bossman, we do get

DRC wrote:

bossman, we do get to recognize who is funding what, so George Soros works against the interests of his economic class to boost democracy and undercut the corporate predation that ALEC promotes.  We will not boycott Soros, but we will boycott the ALEC Bullies.

Do you have a problem with this?  I hope so.  I hope you get really red in the face and pop a blood vessel in your rage.  I hope it drives you nuts--oh wait, it can't do what is already done.  But I really do want it to piss you off because you deserve it.

You have caused enough WTF moments with your idiot posts, so back at you.  May George Soros and Warren Buffett haunt your dreams.

I will guarnatee that george soros is funding people that will make him money and by his own adminsion topple the U.S. so he and his funding can build it up they way it makes him even more money. 

as far as buffet maybe he should pay his taxes before he starts screaming that the rich need to pay more. 

I have a problem with anyone that wants to destroy the U.S. as a free country in order to make it a socialist crap whole like europe. 

Karolina
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I have a problem with anyone

I have a problem with anyone that wants to destroy the U.S. as a free country in order to make it a fascist totalitarian "free" market hierarchical crap whole like NAZI Germany, and "Communist" Russia, and every other empire in history.

Laborisgood
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workingman wrote: Karolina

workingman wrote:

Karolina wrote:

Is Soros a member of ALEC?

no but he does fund organizations that hate america and want to fundimentally change the way america works

You make "fundamentally changing the way America works" sound like a bad thing.  We can only hope Soros' money could do such a thing. Fundamental change is exactly what we need after 30 years of the middle class being pissed on by trickle down economics.

whiskeyman
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  Just remember when you

  Just remember when you boycott a corporation you hurt the corporation a little , but the litte man who works for that corporation and is trying to support his or her family is hurt a whole lot more. Corporations may be big but the people who work for them are just trying to get by. I guess it all boils down to If you can't dispute the message you go after the messenger no matter who you hurt. If the message if false prove that it's false and let the little people earn a living.

DRC
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Remember that when you guys

Remember that when you guys fire teachers and other public workers.  Maybe the corporations can clean up their images and actually honor the pensions of their lower end workers.  Maybe they will be willing to pay "living wages."  Sure.

workingman
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DRC wrote: Remember that when

DRC wrote:

Remember that when you guys fire teachers and other public workers.  Maybe the corporations can clean up their images and actually honor the pensions of their lower end workers.  Maybe they will be willing to pay "living wages."  Sure.

The living wage is a myth that can never be achieved in a free society.  Let me explain:

 

Ok so the government says that the living wage minimum that you can pay is 20 dollars an hour.  The companies than have to raise their prices in order to take in enough money to pay their employees, this will cause all the prices across the board to increase which puts the minimum wage people right back where they started just making more money.  They will actually have a net lose or be worse off when you add in the higher taxes being takes out of their checks.  

 

There are secondary problems with this as well in some companies the bottom paid person is doing a job that is not worth that much money.  the margin of profit maybe so close that the company can not raise its prices enough to recoup the cost of the low paid worker. Their choice than becomes lay off people to stay in business, cut hours or wages which can not be done any more because the lowest paid people get a minimum of 20 dollars an hour, or close.    

 

DRC
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So, let me get this

So, let me get this straight.  You are saying that a "free" society must have slave labor.  You are saying that the price of "freedom" is to leave people who "are not worth a living wage" out of the human equation of "freedom."  I think you need to appreciate that you are not for "freedom" so much as you are for dog eat dog.  You want the sheep and the wolves to be equally free in the same pasture. 

I do think you are wrong about how the economy works, but you do not appreciate that "freedom must be for all, or none."  Freedom is participation in power, and if we are to believe that freedom is an inherent quality of being human, the only civilization we can support as human must include all of its people in participation in power, not merely as subjects of power with masters and slaves.

You have swallowed the garbage of "economic man" to its Mammon reductionism, and I will grant that American 'culture' has embraced Mars and Mammon as its gods of Empire.  This is a large part of what has gone wrong and taken you along with it.  You need to stop believing that you believe in freedom and just call it what it is, the "law of the jungle."  Although jungles work better than this.

workingman
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What I am saying is this, you

What I am saying is this, you can be free to achieve what your god given abilities allow you to achieve, or you can try to legislate fairness. Legislated fairness is neither freedom for all or democracy. The only thing minimum wage laws have done and will continue to do is raise the cost of living. Freedom for all includes me not being your economic slave. Forced to support those unwilling to support themselves.

So your solution is freedom for none. So you can try and legislate the poor away which can never be achieved. You can only legislate the rich until they are poor which helps no one.

Excuse typose posted from phone

.ren
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DRC, what do you have now,

DRC, what do you have now, about ten of these free market fear mongerers that you have to run around trying to counter now?

They have no interest in democracy.  That's why they buzz around these threads.

There will be no discussion about the deep structural nature of the serious crisis humanity now faces, not with them.  They will only peddle their fear of change to those who are too timid to face reality.

Of course, the suggestion that boycotting a corporation is some sort of long range solution is itself absurd, but I don't see that discussion taking place on this thread. The CONtrolls got their foot in the door and steered it their way within the first few posts.  The coup d'e'tat has already happened.  These guys are only here to keep it that way.

Here's a starter course for the real crisis:

Paul Gilding: The Earth is full

For a related article:

The Earth Is Full: Economic and Energy 'Transformation' Needed to Save Planet

DRC
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ren, thanks for the healthy

ren, thanks for the healthy imput, and I admit to having a bit too much time to waste for a few weeks, so being the bouncer here has just been about exposing the bozos.

I don't know which troll of the past is back as bossman, but he and Firstie are giving rigel a run for Thom's village idiot.  Calperson already got his lifetime award and bullwrinkle was sent back to Texas.

I could stand some more intelligent posters, but if the sun comes out I am going to the beach.

Final shot to bossman:  It isn't the typos that you should apologize for.  Try the material ren has suggested before you post again.

Laborisgood
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Thanks ren for the "earth is

Thanks ren for the "earth is full" link.  It is sobering.  I've ribbed Garrett in the past for being too much of a gloomy gus, but this link helps me appreciate Garrett's gloom and doom.  However, I did feel slightly vindicated with my glass half full (not to be confused with ostrich head in sand) worldview at the closing of the clip when Gilding offered some hope if we can all fight together for survival as opposed to fighting against each other.  I hope we reach the tipping point sooner than later and long before it is forced upon us by dire circumstance.

The onslaught of posters that would seem to rather keep us fighting each other instead of fighting for the survival of our planet is staggering.  I'm guilty of fighting the wrong battles myself.  DRC needs a day at the beach.  I'd like to think that these posters are not really representative of the general public, but I just spent Easter with the relatives who seem to be spawning more wrongheaded hatchlings into our world.  I stiil feel good will prevail in due time, but it sure seems to feel like we are way overdue.

 

workingman
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The author of that article

The author of that article says we are consuming 150 percent of the worlds resources. So in oder to get back to economic growth that is sastainable we need to cut all consumption by 75 percent plus a little more each year as the population grows. That means everyone so the poor have to give up 75 percent of all the have including food just like the rich do.

Exactly how do you propose we cut the worlds economic output consumption by 75 percent the first year and add the same percentage as pop growth to that year over year.

Excuse typos posted from phone

.ren
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laborisgood wrote: However, I

laborisgood wrote:

However, I did feel slightly vindicated with my glass half full (not to be confused with ostrich head in sand) worldview at the closing of the clip when Gilding offered some hope if we can all fight together for survival as opposed to fighting against each other.  I hope we reach the tipping point sooner than later and long before it is forced upon us by dire circumstance.

Recall, if you will, that Gregory Bateson quote from that other thread while you think about this issue.  Also note that I said the above link is a starter; for many I think it is, for some we may be already some ways past that point.  I mean that. I think Garrett went past the starter point several years ago, which means, I think, that he's already gone through the five stages of grief.  I know he's talked about it.  We have people at many different points on a spectrum of becoming aware of what we are up against, and of course many who are not, are not likely to be until the worst is in their face.  And that's a huge challenge, because the wealthy are some of the most extreme of the latter, and they own the system, including most of our elected representatives.  But I like to think positively, so I do.

We've had more than fifty years of science-based wake-up calls about the collision path this limitless growth civilization is on with the reality of planet Earth.  What we call laws in the United States (and other "modern" nation states -- rule by law, Hah!) and what the physical and biological reality of the planet sets as limits are entirely different things, the planet's limits are really laws, they are non negotiable.  We can create mythological science, as Adam Smith did, and tell ourselves that man is a barter and trade being at heart, thus a free market is his most free and happy mode of existence, and then he invented the so-called science of economics, but that's not science, that's just more human mythologizing. 

And so to deal with this looming crisis we are about to have with the non negotiable laws of the planet, we can take the wise approach and live up to our arrogantly self-promoted handle, "wise" humans (Latin sapiēns, sapient-, present participle of sapere, to taste, be wise. See sapient) or we can do what we generally have done in our history: use our human-invented interpretive mythologies (in this case of economists) to deal with the reality of the world.  That's going to be a tough choice for more people than I'd like to imagine, I'm afraid.

Karl Polanyi writes eloquently of The Great Transformation that transformed a huge and undocumented variety of human cultures (what some of us refer to as "the People without History") into the economic-based way of living we now live, we call it "civilization", and now the call is out for another transformation into yet a new way of living.  Only now we have to make some sort of decision about doing so, or the decision will be made for us.  The warnings are coming more frequently and are ever more dire the longer we wait.

CommonDreamsStaff wrote:

"This doesn't mean it's the end of the world; it's not the end of capitalism, or civilization. What it does mean is that we must realize that we are facing a really severe set of constraints... This crisis is coming. But we can cope with the crisis. It's going to be ugly and messy, but we can cope with the crisis." Despair must be replaced with determination and mobilization, Gilding says, "We have to get ready for it."

This is the positive spin:

Paul Gilding wrote:

When we look at history we tend to see the progress of events as inevitable, but it was rarely so at the time. Indeed, the UK's powerful response to Hitler and the United States' equally extraordinary mobilization after Pearl Harbor both followed long years of denial and debate.

Many argued that the threat wasn't that great, the response would be too expensive to afford, the public wouldn't support it. Sound familiar? But when the response came, when the scale of the threat was finally accepted, our response was breathtaking. As Churchill told his country: "It is no use saying, 'We are doing our best.' You have got to succeed in doing what is necessary."

With denial gone, governments knew what was "necessary." They directed industry to support the war -- banning civilian auto production just four days after Pearl Harbor. They raised massive amounts of money to fund investment and technology research at an extraordinary scale -- indeed, U.S. spending on the war rose from 1.6% of GDP in 1940 to 37% just five years later. To achieve this, they curtailed personal consumption and drove remarkable behavior change to free up financial and other resources for the war effort.

Do you find this hard to imagine today? Then try to imagine the alternative -- that in a collapsing global economy and society we will stand by and simply watch the slide. There is no precedent in modern history on which to base that conclusion and plenty of evidence for the alternative. Humanity may be slow, but we are not stupid. Get ready for the great disruption.

DRC
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I can hardly wait, but it is

I can hardly wait, but it is cloudy today and the beach is not great in the rain.  It is not terribly windy, so the golfers are out on the course next to the Ala Wei Canal.  I keep telling those in the stages of grief that "we have to save despair for better times," and I try to wake up the ideologically drugged or at least keep them from scaring anyone else.

While "we have nothing to fear other than fear itself," it is also true that "nothing focuses the mind like a hanging in the morning."  Is it fear that made us mobilize to fight WWII, or was it a belief that "liberty and justice for all" was worth the fight against "corporatism" and "empire?"  I prefer to think that love of life on earth can mobilize us to face down "the principalities and powers of this world" when they claim to be God.  The point of the First Commandment is to accept nothing other than the Reality that can do the job.  No ideology can substitute for reality.  Hello "atheists."  I know you are not empty materialists or objectivists.  I still like human life on earth and want my granchildren to enjoy it too.  Second one coming on the 12th.  It's a girl!  Reason enough for me to celebrate the coming disruption.

Karolina
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Hey Ren, DRC, ART,

Hey Ren, DRC, ART, Laborisgood, Mikslvr....

In the World Affairs Forum Under the Syria News title, there is an article that really shocked me yesterday. It is about US & British secret service activities 2002-2006, and you will find it in post #11, if you are interested.

Carry on.  :-)

.ren
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I read it Karolina.  Wish I

I read it Karolina.  Wish I was shocked.  I've simply witnessed too much propaganda in action not to expect how far they are willing to go, how little we have to say about their doing it.

DRC, some of us have been trying the non-fear, let's be rational about this for a very long time. 

Paul Gilding (formerly head of Greenpeace) wrote:

For 50 years the environmental movement has unsuccessfully argued that we should save the planet for moral reasons, that there were more important things than money. Ironically, it now seems it will be money -- through the economic impact of climate change and resource constraint -- that will motivate the sweeping changes necessary to avert catastrophe.

We (those of us who looked at the environmental facts years ago) will at least have some coping skills if the gun toting maniacs don't slaughter us in their fits of messianic fear.  I still think this 2007 Chris Hedges article no MSM outlet would print is relevant:

The Christian Right and the Rise of American Fascism

It sort of goes right along with (or maybe against the hope implied by "pressure") the theme of this thread, which has to do with how we lost democracy to an inverted totalitarian corporatocracy. Alhough I'm not sure how we'll get democracy -- if we ever really had it -- back other than the way some of us are starting to do it locally, as per ideas from people like your friend David Korten.  My gut intuition tells me Thom's doing a little unrealistic dreaming in thinking that pressure will effect anything other than even more adaptive strategies by the corporations (not necessarily unlike the one's Karolina linked) to keep their growth going.  That's what they are, economic growth machines, and so is everyone involved -- bits and pieces of machinery.  Who does that leave out these days?

 

DRC
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I like street theater and

I like street theater and ridicule/irony more than "rationality" as the way to make a point today.  But it is contextual, and when we get honest inquirers we need to be more thoughtful than just playful.  It is very refreshing to have an intelligent conversation, and "refreshing" is the point.  Rationality is more like the technocratic than the thoughtful.  I think the long term is very hopeful, but we keep getting surprised by the tenacity of entropy.  I would put that on the tab of the Age of Reason and its illusions.

Have even more fun and enjoy those Westport oysters.

Bush_Wacker
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Are there any conservatives

Are there any conservatives on this blog who have an ounce of humanity?  You demonize poor people who barely have enough to eat and you champion the wealthy aristocrat who could give a shit less about you and your praises.  You should do everything you can for the less of us if for no other reason a selfish one.  For they are the foundation for which holds you up in your middle class world.

The rich man who recieves 100 loaves of bread a day for his family of four should not have to give up 25 loaves for society unless the poor man with a family of 4 who recieves 1 loaf a day gives up a quarter of his?  That kind of thinking is INHUMANE and down right evil.  You can believe what you want but you are not worthy of being labeled kind or humane.  Peace

Laborisgood
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Unfortunately, the story is

Unfortunately, the story is not as shocking to me either Karolina, but not because of my intimate knowledge of the subject like ren may have.  I've been sleepwalking for decades and never felt the need to get really upset over all the bad things that I knew was going, but figured I was insulated from.  I finally realized I'm not insulated and we are are all in a big pile of crap that we need to work our way out of.  The fact that I have woken up gives me hope that others can do the same.

 

.ren
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As you must know, DRC, given

As you must know, DRC, given everything I've put on that thread about logical positivism, I don't mean the technocratic version of rational, I don't waste much time on that one.  I'm using rational as something else, something more heuristic, along the lines of a non messianic, non economically mystical (but utterly rational) way of saying what's real about our world in common language, a let us talk together as equals about the world we love way of talking.  Any morality towards the planet as being more than a resource -- a way of talking often found in the environmental movement -- is not rational to an economist, nor, it seems, to a laissez faire free marketeer.   And that seems utterly irrational to me, but not in that same sense they use the word.

Morality is complex, more like the human cultural complexity that doesn't last long when subjected to those rational, mechanistic neoliberal forces; human culture as an important ingredient in everyday life has long been dismissed from the neoliberal colonial program.  So "rational" is just a figure of speech when I use it.  It seems "rational" (as in sensible) to me to consider the whole of our humanity, as, say, binarily opposed to irrational to ignore it for the utterly rational, as the mechanistic thinkers tend to do.  Rationally-focused people can often be very irrational when set off against the whole of our humanity, that attitude must always be considered present too.  It's the essence of inhumanity as Bush_Whacker points out.

We're still enjoying the oysters here, and the clams, especially those razor clams, while keeping a watchful eye on the radiation levels coming into our still somewhat pristine Bay.

Laborisgood
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Bush_Wacker wrote: Are there

Bush_Wacker wrote:

Are there any conservatives on this blog who have an ounce of humanity?  You demonize poor people who barely have enough to eat and you champion the wealthy aristocrat who could give a shit less about you and your praises.

Making this small incremental change of realization in those self-identified conservatives seems like a monumental task, but really is key to breaking down so many other barriers.  I'd like to think that this minor adjustment is one that can be accomplished by Thom's "unrealistic dreaming of pressure" as Ren refers to.  Pressure on the corporations forces them to double down on their inhumanity.  When the soldiers mindlessly fighting for the machine decide to prioritize humanity, then the machine becomes much harder to maintain.  There does seem to be an endless supply of soldiers fighting to defend the machine that really doesn't give them anything in return, but that will be the machine's undoing.  Sooner or later, even the densest rube realizes their being had.

DRC
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Ren, this is why I press the

Ren, this is why I press the question of "what does it take to make and keep human life human in this world?"  Beinig able to reason together in the context of a human sensibility is a pleasure, not just a way to get anything done.  What happens when we sit back after a great meal and share our feelings and thoughts is a conversation that pleases the soul as well as the mind.  I look forward to doing that in person, in the "flesh and blood" and also with your very fine mind.  Keep the radiation monitors working, but I am old enough to take more risks than I would if I did not appreciate mortality.

And laugh.  And cry.  And love.  There is not substitute for the real thing.  It ain't Coke.

MEJ
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On a similar note to The

On a similar note to The Earth is Full, I discovered The Other Inconvient Truth and now I've shared it.

.ren
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Thank you MEJ, very important

Thank you MEJ, very important message. 

Hopefully one of these days, DRC.

Laborisgood
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.ren wrote: We (those of us

.ren wrote:

We (those of us who looked at the environmental facts years ago) will at least have some coping skills if the gun toting maniacs don't slaughter us in their fits of messianic fear.  I still think this 2007 Chris Hedges article no MSM outlet would print is relevant:

The Christian Right and the Rise of American Fascism

It sort of goes right along with (or maybe against the hope implied by "pressure") the theme of this thread, which has to do with how we lost democracy to an inverted totalitarian corporatocracy.

Excellent Hedges article.  However, it's important to note that the article is rooted in Hedges' 80 year old professor's projections into a future when Hedges is 80 years old.  That's more than a generation away.  This story is a work in progress.

I've always appreciated Thom's unwillingness to concede Jesus to the Religious Right.  It need not be seen as a religious endeavor either.  To wrestle back the great teachings of Jesus outside of a religious context from the awful people who so willingly abuse religious pretense is a fight Jesus would embrace.  Throwing in the towel for all of religion and especially Christianity (as so many enemies of the Religious Right have chosen to do) will only expedite the final chapter of Hedges' professor's story.

.ren
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Laborisgood wrote:  However,

Laborisgood wrote:

 However, it's important to note that the article is rooted in Hedges' 80 year old professor's projections into a future when Hedges is 80 years old.

True enough, but prophesy isn't an exact science.

Prophets can be right about the prophecy but not necessarily right about the timeline.  I think it's possible we are living in an era of unpredictable acceleration that may be problematic no matter how good the intuition of a prophet might be. 

For instance, I predict a balancing back to a little more moderation in Congress this next election.  However, if we don't get a congressional balancing movement backing away from these right wing extremists that came in during 2010, I am going to be a little worried.  While I'm not that worried about the presidency because I think the POTUS and SCOTUS is corporate-owned at this point, Congress is truly our last electable option for a chance to do anything. We can friighten them into listening by voting them out of their cushy jobs. I just got off the phone in a teleconference town hall meeting with my Rep and she seems genuine and concerned, and she's in there fighting for things we care about. 

There are still some real people in Congress.  But then there are these other nut jobs fighting for the brain dead zombies, the machines.  The Terminator war of the machines against us humans isn't science fiction, it's real and it's now.  Hopefully the people that stayed home during the 2010 elections in those districts will panic and get out to vote this time.  I mean, look what's happening in Wisconsin. 

Hedges' article was written before Ron Paul's Tea Party got astroturfed, and before the 2008 financial meltdown.  A lot of people got financially creamed and the delusion that they can ruggedly slug it out individually against the corporations and the criminal banking and Wall Street mafia has to be hitting on some sort brick wall of reality at this point.  A lot of chips are in the air right now.

I guess you noticed the article was posted at the Christian Left.

Sprinklerfitter
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That was a very good read by

That was a very good read by Chris Hedges..Nice way to start the morning off and with a big cup of coffee. I saved the article to print out later.

You guys and gals sure do post some great links to read....

Thanks

Karolina
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From the Progressive Change

From the Progressive Change Campaign Committee:

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PETITION:  STOP FUNDING ALEC !

McDonald's, Coke, Pepsi, Kraft, Intuit, and the Gates Foundation all announced they will stop funding ALEC's right-wing agenda! Now, help us pressure AT&T, State Farm and Johnson & Johnson to do the same. 

PETITION: "Stop funding the American Legislative Exchange Council -- which spearheads state voter-disenfranchisement laws, union-busting laws, and the 'Shoot First' law that let Trayvon Martin's killer go free."

Sign the petition.

We are working with civil rights group ColorOfChange and Credo Action on this growing petition.

 

Art
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Thomused to reject the idea

Thomused to reject the idea of boycotts on the grounds that they don't work. I'm ambiguous on this, but I suspect that he is changing his ideas because we are seeing Corporate movers actually acting (Rush Limbaugh, and now, ALEC)- I say that this is because the big Corporations don't like being involved publically in political controversy. Either way - boycott or not - public scrutiny is working. "The best disinfectant . . ." and all that.

DRC
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Boycotts work as political

Boycotts work as political theater more than as marketplace corrections.  I think Thom has opposed the idea that consumerism is the power to make corporations act responsibly.  He is right to see it as a low power option.  On the other hand, when a business can be made to look bad and have its brand damaged, the tactic has some clout.

As single issue tactics, I think they are weak.  As headlines or the story that tells the story, they are strong.  With a movement like OWS, these attacks on brands and exposure of being part of a discreditied agenda are a lot more than a "consumer" boycott.