Selective Socialism

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Let me liven up the message board. I believe we have a problem in the US with selective socialism. In true socialist European countries, most everyone benefits in some way and no one feels like the govt is picking winners and losers. Nobody has too big a gripe because there is mass benefit. But here in the US we do it poorly and selectively. Let me show some examples.

Make a bad investment in a home stop making payments-get loan mods and principle reductions.

Car debt, renters, credit card debt, medical debts-nothing

Student Loans-go to expensive school and borrow money with no idea of repayment. Watch the coming big push for loan forgiveness!

People or parents who scrimped and saved and paid for college and paid their student loans-SUCKERS!

Corporate Welfare-self explanatory

Vet preferences and affirmative action for job seekers-good for them.

Unemployed white male over 50-no soup for you!

This selective socialism creates resentment among the govt picked losers and a sense of entitlement for the winners. People who played by the rules justifiably resent those who don't and pay no penalty. If Obama loses, it will be because of his selective socialism and the resentment he created.

May. 8, 2012 12:06 pm


In true socialist European countries,
There are no true socialist European countries.

Art's picture
Jul. 31, 2007 4:01 pm

I'm speaking of countries like Sweden, Netherlands etc that have strong social safety nets. Everybody has a vested interest and believes they benefit. But our way creates govt picked winners and losers. If you have a vocal enough group or can gather sympathy, you get your dose of socialism. If not-too bad.

May. 8, 2012 12:06 pm

Why should any of the losers vote for Obama? If you are one of the long term unemployed-can you be any more unemployed under Romney?

May. 8, 2012 12:06 pm

It's no secret that our democracy is an illusion. It's been that way for years if not decades. A select group of the rich "select" our presidents and administration agendas. Doesn't matter if they are Republican or Democrat they all bend to their puppet masters and if not think JFK. It's even believed that Nixon, though not a great guy, got hit with Watergate because he wanted to in the Vietnam cash cow and was doing a few other things the puppet masters didn't like.

So I'm cynical. It's my middle name and that has never made me very popular with the "happy go lucky" liberal set. I have more in common with "thinking liberals" who are often just as cynical or shall we call it "realistic."

Whomever wins in November things probably won't change much but I just can't imagine Romney will win as there is too much against him. AND... I suspect the GOP bigwigs know that, he's just a "trial balloon". I also think they were well aware that McCain would not win in 2008 and added Palin to make sure. WHY? Because they didn't want to be in office to clean up the mess they made the prior 8 years and I don't think they still want the clean up job.

Russell Baker has some good articles on the "puppet masters" to give you a sobering read. This country does need to go far more left and cut off the free ride for the capitalists. It needs to be a functioning country for the people and right now it is very dysfunctional with the banksters running the show.

captbebops's picture
Jul. 31, 2007 4:01 pm
Quote lovecraft: If Obama loses, it will be because of his selective socialism and the resentment he created.

I think there is truth in what you say, but to blame Obama is ludicrus. The reason husbands were originally excluded from Johnson's AFDC program is because the Republicans didn't want to pay for it. And on and on it goes.

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Dr. Econ
Jul. 31, 2007 4:01 pm

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