Conservatives want to minimize gov.aid, cool, me too. And they say they don't want anybody just gaming the system and I think we could again agree. There are many millions of folks that do the needed jobs that we don't much respect at least pay wise. They are willing to take pride in and work an honest 40hrs a week and more when needed as long as they can still have time for family. There isn't room in the present system for everyone to be able to move up a normal ladder because it is realistically more of a triangular shaped ladder. So most will have to continue their low paying job for as long as they can still work. So take away much of the gov. aid and let business determine what you have during your life and for your old age. What should this at least be?