Student Who Recorded Teacher Yelling at Him for Criticizing President Obama Speaks Out

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Student Who Recorded Teacher Yelling at Him for Criticizing President Obama Speaks Out

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Tuesday, May 22, 2012

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A teacher is now suspended with pay after audio was found of her yelling at a student for criticizing President Obama. It all began in the classroom when the topic of the day was a discussion regarding GOP contender Mitt Romney being a bully in high school. When the student challenged the teacher, the audio reveals she began yelling at him.

In the audio clip, she said, “That’s disrespect!” The student then responds, “You’re disrespecting Romney!” That, of course, prompts another response from the teacher, who says, “How’s that disrespect? He’s not the president! You will not disrespect the President of the United States in this classroom!”

The student involved in that incident, Hunter Rogers, and his mother, Gina Rogers, spoke out about this matter on today’s Fox and Friends. After he asked the teacher if Obama had been a bully, he said she immediately got defensive and responded, “Not to my knowledge.”

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D09_oPG5j98&feature=relmfu

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Another story that appears only on Fox News and a bunch of right-wing blogs. I wonder if the legitimate press will be picking this up. It should be a very exciting issue.

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Right just miss the point of the whole story...

Way to go Art !!!!!

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[quote]Sorry Anti. I think I know what your point is. It just isn't an interesting one. I can't wait to see this story hit the big time.

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This is more about teaching kids about respect , is it not? I would have done the same thing if I was the teacher. I would have done the same thing if a student started critisizing Bush. There's a place and a time for discussion but utter disrespect of the President of the United States is unacceptable in a school setting. I've wondered about this for some time now. When I was a kid there were some things that you just did or did not do as a sign of respect. I was taught to always hold the door open for others and I still do today. I was taught to stay quiet while others were trying to watch a movie or listen to a speaker. I was taught to not blatantly disrespect our President or God in public whether I believed in either one or not. This isn't about a pro-Obama teacher but about teaching, which is what you are supposed to do in school. Or so I thought.

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At some point in the clip, does the teacher knock the student to the ground and forcibly shear the student?

Has anyone ever claimed that Pres. Obama did those sorts of things?

What is the point?

We know that Gov. Romney assaulted a young person, and all the living witnesses have come forth and admitted as much. We know that Gov. Romney's family fled to Mexico to be apart of a religious cult that practiced polygamy. We know he fled to France to be a part of that cult's work as opposed to enlisting to serve in Vietnam.

What else do we need to know? That his private sector work involved leveraged buyouts of succesful firms and then dismantling them ala the Sopranos.

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So what, is this supposed to be some indictment of the teaching profession because of the stupidity of one teacher?

I'm guessing this anti teaching plug is yet more of this "free enterprise" corporate propaganda onslaught we have to sort out on this site.

First the right wing debilitates serious teaching by instituting the absurdity of no child left behind, a truly fascist form of teaching by rote, and then, after the serious and dedicated teachers throw up their hands in frustration and leave their field, the corporate right then picks on individual acts of teacher stupidity, like this one, and makes a big public display of it.

Ignorant teaching is bound to occur from time to time, teachers are human beings, not programmed cyborgs, and it should be dealt with, like suspending the teacher pending further review. And I'm among the first to say some people are not cut out to be teachers.

But look at what's taking place. And if you don't know take the trouble to go to teachers themselves and talk about it with them, and listen.

Then notice that if you drive the teachers' unions from the scene you won't get to hear their side on these corporate news broadcasts because teachers have no collective and objectively sane way to tell you what they are dealing with and what they are trying to do for your kids, and you will get the corporate propaganda version via Fox News and you'll end up with the Scott Walkers of Wisconsin. You'll soon be so confused you'll be running around in circles trying to get rid of the Scott Walkers but you won't know why and you'll get another just like him in his place.

Once you've driven unions from the scene, what will be left of teachers will be the new and inexperienced... book taught but with little face to face dealings with kids, some of whom are professional button pushers. That's going to happen because the education system has become less and less valuable to the global corporatocracy embedded in our faux democracy as they move to other feeding grounds outside the U.S. for their labor force, so public education is being relentlessly budget trimmed year after year as they feed on the carcass of this nation, thus the system itself favors new and cheap beginners over the old and experienced. No job security, no experience, no learning that comes of years of personal investment in a profession. Gone.

Snear at teachers, as this Fox program does, and you will get worse and worse teaching. No one is going to dedicate themselves to being increasingly disrespected. People don't work that way in healthy societies. Stop crying about it if that's what you wanted, and you do want it by attacking and destroying the teaching profession.

Any casual observer can see a relentless multi-pronged effort has been taking place to drive the cream of the crop from the field. Good teaching is being reduced to primitive forms of rote teaching, thus the field opens to utterly ignorant teachers who learned by rote, and who don't know how to think critically themselves and tautologically don't need to teach critical thinking when when teaching is merely systematized programming of memorization to tests in no child left behind programs.

And I'm saying "right" here in terms of corporate media and their role in corporatization of this nation. Which means indoctrinization through advertising, one of the most insidious forms of propaganda ever concocted by the human herd managers who love the security of corporate and bureaucratic hierarchies. Corporatization includes the move to privatized/corporatized teaching, freeing corporate managers to completely twist our minds from childhood, which will undoubtedly include amping up the already subtle propaganda of color sorting m&ms and counting tootsie rolls in elementary classes (Today's history class brought to you by Doritos). The result of all that is going to be a full fledged Democracy Incorporated: Managed Democracy and the Specter of Inverted Totalitarianism.

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Take heart, according to Ravi Batra, educators will be a leading part of the Coming Golden Age. He includes "soldiers" in the sense of it being about those willing to give their lives to/for others. The investment in children is never about the pursuit of greed or "personal interest," so it has to be devalued and cut. Until greed exhausts itself and we need to care and share if only to recover.

Occupy your school board.

Very well put, ren.

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If that same teacher was caught yelling at a student for critisizing the bible and the student saying "You're disrespecting my right to my own religious beliefs", that teacher would be an American hero.

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The story goes to the left leaning of the education system wdissent have teachers discussing Barry's drug use in 2008 why are we having discussions of this now about Romney if nOt because it's the teachers political leaning? This is Ln example of teachers putting their political beliefs on to their students.

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I was going to say it is interesting how black people fight for their rights yet deny everyone elses once they come into any position of power.

A lot of black people are smarter than this, she is an embarrassment to the teaching profession.

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It's NOT racial.

"Finger of SHAME" for interjecting race into it!

I couldn't listen to the whole clip because it made me very angry and brought up a LOT of bad memories. I've dealt with fake, bully, authority figures my whole life. From Church, to School, to Work.

What irks me so much about this incident is...

She's the TEACHER. She's the one "moderating" the discussion. She's the one who has control of the topic. Yet... she SHOUTS down a rounded out discussion that doesn't "fit" into her preconceived ideas. If you're going to create, engage a conversation... one should allow for other opinions to enter into the conversation.

It's a SORE spot for me. It's like "sinking my battleship". Whenever I see it being done... I pretty much HAVE to respond. (As you can tell.)

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I am not making it racial, I am just pointing out a cultural hypocrisy.

I would say the same thing if a Polsih-American embraced communism after Poland fought so long and hard to get out of it.

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Quote antikakistocrat:

I was going to say it is interesting how black people fight for their rights yet deny everyone elses once they come into any position of power.

A lot of black people are smarter than this, she is an embarrassment to the teaching profession.

I still remember getting my knuckles whacked with a yard stick for talking in class. Now if you reprimand someone verbally for a matter of disrespect you are an embarrassment to the teaching profession. I guess I'm getting too old.

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There are over 1000 videos of teachers yelling at and belittling students on you tube. I wonder why those haven't garnered the same attention.

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1 word unions

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Let's see, what about that comment about black people getting to power and then denying others? Were you talking about Black Conservatives? And if not, why not?

Your Polish image comes up against a lot of Middle European sophistication about economic and political ideologies. They know that "Communism" as the Iron Curtain of Russian Security sucked. They also see Corporate Capitalism as a lot of the same Elite Power model that failed them before, and sense that it "blows." They may also appreciate that "Socialism" provided education and health as well as a support system when needed. Unless they are among the few who prospered greatly in the new economic aristocracy, they may see "capitalism" as seriously lacking in appeal.

The Polish response would simply be that Communism has nothing to do with Police States. Those who honor that tradition would not be doing historical reenactments any more than they would want others to be stuck in the past. A failed "pseudo-Communism" can make Communism smarter and more wary about how the Brand is doing. Intelligent discussion of the question that divides Communism and Capitalism must destroy the presumed either/or. There is truth in both our individual and our collective human reality. The false alternatives must be rejected as well as the idea that the solution will be resonant with ideological clarity.

The post presumes the story of this teacher shouting down a student who spoke insultingly in a class discussion about Obama is both racial and political (liberal) and an example of liberal hypocrisy. Bush tossed people wearing the wrong t-shirts out of his rallies. The Dixie Chicks had their careers destroyed for being ashamed to have him be from Texas in the context of his lying us into war. It has been hard to disrespect the office of the President more than the GOPimp occupants have. Does that make this student's classroom decorum the kind of free speech you want to defend? Without making the issue be about how the teacher reacted, is there some right to be snarky and rude we are trying to honor in this example?

I would not make the kid the issue given his adult mentoring in this ugly demonization and projected blame. Ideas that make us feel good and powerful are intoxicating. Having to take a cold shower in reality is often avoided until the ideology itches and stinks. Teaching is hard work, and I can see the last straw side of this too. As ren explained so well, you get the worst of both worlds when those who want to teach leave in frustration and those who have been trained to school are faced with getting good test scores out of the drones. Catechism requires true believers or it is hard to fake. True Believers are hard to take.

But back to which Black People pull up the ladders of opportunity and which extend them. If you are talking about Obama, you are either misinformed or insincere. In the limited range of his political options, Obama has done some useful opportunity extending. What he has not done and could have is in debate and discussion. Other than be totally partisan in the realistic expectation that the GOPimps would play the cynicism card, there are not many things Obama could have gotten that he has not gotten something positive done. Had he gone partisan, Obama would have to be the negative one who suspected innocent and patriotic American Republicans and oppressed them. Their behavior and words would not be in the public record, even if that record is rarely compared with the narrative. Facts undermine plots.

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