Why I'm voting republicon in 2012

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Not really but this is still funny and true......4 years later.

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Support Ron Paul and tell the other 2 Bilderberg Parties to stick it.

American has had it with political parties that are controlled by offshore banks trying to destroy America.

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Imperial Unity

British Consulate
New York City
June 10, 1919

"The Right Honorable David Lloyd George,

Sir:

I was highly honored by your personal letter of May 24 last (written same week as Paris meeting), and wish to thank you for the cordial expression of approval of my work which it contained. You were very good enough to require from me a frank and confidential account of the campaign conducted under my direction in this country, together with such suggestions as might further help to lead it speedily to a successful conclusion. As the campaign had been under way for a considerable time before you were called to direct the destinies of England, I shall review it from its commencement, and, emboldened by your sanction, I shall freely make whatever suggestions seem to me good.

From the moment of my arrival here, it was evident to me that such an Anglo-American alliance as would ultimately result in the peaceful return of the American Colonies to the dominion of the Crown could be brought about only with the consent of the dominant group of the controlling clans.

For those who can afford the universities, we are, as I have already mentioned, plentifully supplying British-born or trained professors, lecturers, and presidents. A Canadian-born admiral now heads the United States Naval College. We are arranging for a greater interchange of professors between the two countries. The student interchange could be much improved. The Rhodes scholarships are inadequate in number. I would suggest that the Carnegie trustees be approached to extend to American students the benefits of the scheme by which Scottish students are subsidised at Scottish universities. If necessary, a grant from the treasury should be obtained for this excellent work, which however, should remain for the present -- at least outwardly -- private enterprise...

Through the Red Cross, the Scout movement, the YMC, the church, and other humane, religious, and quasi-religious organizations, we have created an atmosphere of international effort which strengthens the idea of unity of the English-speaking world. In the co-ordination of this work, Mr. Raymond Fosdick, formerly of the Rockefeller Foundation, has been especially conspicuous. I would also like to mention President Nicholas Murray Butler of Columbia University, who has eloquently advocated this form of internationalism and carefully emphasize its distinction from the false internationalism which is infecting the proletariat.

The Overseas Club in this country now contains nearly hundred thousand pledged members with a Journal of their own. Our thanks are due to Lord St. George's, St. David's, St. Andrew's, and Pilgrim Clubs, together with the Daughters of the Empire. the Prince of Wales Fund, and the other association and guilds connected with our multitudinous war charities enable us to pervade all sections and classes of the country, and provide us with a force of empire builders whose loyalty an services are both invaluable to us and highly appreciated by the native colonists.

The censorship, together with our monopoly of cables and our passport control of passengers, enables us to hold all American newspapers as isolated from the non-American world as if they had been in another planet instead of in another hemisphere The realization of this by the Associated Press and the other universal news gatherers -- except Hearst -- was most helpful in bringing only our point of view to the papers they served.

British-born editors and reporters now create imperial sentiment in most American newspapers. As their identity and origins are not usually known, they can talk and write for us as Americans to Americans.

Below that level, imperial unity cannot be securely established upon the debris of the Constitution here. We will not passively permit this unity to be now menaced when it is all but perfect. Has not America, while still maintaining an outward show of independence, yielded to our wishes in the Panama Canal tolls and Canadian fisheries' disputes, as was fitting and filial? Was not America happy to fight our war in Europe? Was not America, like Canada, willing not only to pay her own war expenses but also to loan us money for ours? Was not America, like Canada, content to seek nothing in return for her war duty, so long as the motherland was completely indemnified in Egypt and the rest of Africa, in Persia, Mesopotamia, Syria, and elsewhere? Was not America as proud to be honored by knighthood and lesser titulary distinctions, as Canada was, or, rather, more proud?

Has not President Wilson cancelled the big Navy program and dutifully conceded to us the command of the seas, confident that we shall defend America against all future foes that may threaten our supremacy, just as we defended America and Canada against Germany? In matters lingual, legal and financial, fiscal, commercial, social evangelical, administrative, martial, naval, educational -- are not in all these matters the established relations of America to England, in kind -- if not precisely in degree -- identical with the relations of the other colonies and dominions to the Crown? Indeed, I might justifiably sustain the thesis that so-distant American Republic is now more happily and more closely bound to the Empire than are, for example, the ungrateful and insolent colonies which lately were the Boer Republics.

As long as President Wilson, with our Canadian-born Secretary of the Interior, Mr. Franklin Lane, with our Scotch-born Secretary of Labor, Mr. W. B. Wilson, and with our London-born Mr. Samuel Gompers, -- now controls the administration, imperial unity will daily grow more intimate and more perfect. But I regret to inform you that our committee on American Elections has reported (Appendix 38) that no matter how lavishly we finance the next election, the Wilson administration will pass, and with it, perchance, that absolute administrative control over the Legislature, which has meant so much to us. Willful, wanton, and wicked men will unite in the next election with labor and those industrialists whose profit-patriotism ratio has been allowed to fall below the threshold of loyalty to imperial unity. These combined forces of disorder will seek to elect a legislature which will attempt to make the administration responsible to it, instead of to us and our auxiliaries, and will strive to rend the bonds which bind this colony to the motherland, for the sole, selfish, and seditious purpose of erecting a separate, national, economic unit independent of us -- and even perhaps, competing with us. We must, therefore, hasten to remove from this legislature, with the aid of our supporters here, such of its powers as could be used against imperial unity.

J. P. MORGAN & CO. ARE BRITISH AGENTS

In the financial world the Anglo-American alliance is a well-established fact. And as the consortium for China, and the security company for Mexico show, our brokers and their aids have become the unchallenged financiers of the world. We have been particularly fortunate in our fiscal agents here, Messrs Pierpont Morgan & Company. The commissions they charged, both as our brokers and purchasing agents no doubt were high enough to warrant their summary treatment at the hands of Mr. Balfour during his visit here. But they advantageously placed our many bond issues and every American holder of these bonds having now a stake in the Empire is a defender of its integrity and a potential supporter of its extension over here. Their services in putting this country into the war have not been altruistic, but they were nonetheless effective. They contributed liberally to our Americanization campaign. They ousted Miss Boardman, and through Messrs. Taft and H. P. Davidson they nationalized and directed the American Red Cross, and then internationalized it under the direction of Mr. H. P. Davison Through Mr. Thomas Lamont they purchased Harpers Magazine and the New York Evening Post. Through advertisers they control, they have exerted widespread influence on newspaper policy. Messrs. Lamont and Davidson gave you valuable aid at the peace conference. They loaned $200,000,000 to Japan that our ally might build a fleet to compete with America on the Pacific carrying routes. Their attempts to retain for us control of the international mercantile marine are well known to you. And I would he amiss if I did not remind you that they relieved the government of considerable embarrassment by pensioning worthily the widow of our late Ambassador Sir Cecil Spring-Rice, at a time when the antagonism of Lord Northcliffe made it impossible for us officially to do so. As the greater part of their capital is invested within the Empire. the Government of His Majesty will doubtless have opportunity to appreciate the value of the services of Messrs. Pierpont Morgan & Company.

BRITISH DUPLICITY
Through our fiscal agents here and our aids who act for other Allied countries, as Sir Clifford Sifton acts for Rumania, we have become the world's purchasers. Moreover, the war has made us the custodian of the greater part of the world's raw materials. With moneys lent to us by the American Government for war purposes, we have. acting through quasi-American companies by the aid of Mr. Connor Guthrie, obtained control of the large oil fields in California and in Costa Rica. And through the nationalization of His Majesty's Government of the Cowdray, Pearson, and Royal Dutch Shell interests in Mexico, we having become masters of the Mexican, Canadian, Rumanian, Armenian. Persian, and lessor oil fields, now largely control the oil fields of the world and thereby the world's transportation and industry. We have not yet succeeded in controlling the pipe lines owned by the Standard Oil Company, and its subsidiaries, for those companies have long been established. But, although uncontrolled companies may continue to get their oil to the seaboard, the proposed system of preferential treatment at our universal oiling stations for ships supplied at the port of departures with British oil (Appendix 37) will prevent the use of any oil but ours on the high seas.

This control would enable us to exert such pressure as would make American industrial interests amenable to His Majesty's pleasure. But it would be unwise to make disciplinary use of our fuel power before we secure remission of our $4,000,000,000 debt. Otherwise, the American industrial interests might retaliate by forcing the United States Government to exact from us the agreed interest, to maintain tariff barriers against our merchandise, and to withdraw support from the rate of exchange. Which make our labor and resources for years pay tribute to this country an unnatural, unfilial, and unthinkable proceeding. We are conducting a vigorous campaign for the cancellation of this war debt, on the grounds (a) that we fought America's fight for her for 2 years, while she was prospering in cowardice and (b) that at least the material burdens should be distributed justly, if the world is to be made safe for democracy. . Synchronously with this agitation for the remission of our debt, we are agitating for further loans of American money to rebuild our markets in Europe. There is no possibility of these two agitations endangering their mutual success, for we have repeatedly proved beyond question that the American mind cannot synchronously fix and correlate facts, with two cognate items on the statements to be judged each on its merits. Hence, we are able in a cloud of candor to state the merit of the loan -- viz, that unless the money be lent to us we cannot pay the interest on it. in these agitations we are receiving valuable, if not wholly disinterested, aid from our financial auxiliaries and fiscal agents (J. P. Morgan & Co.)

In Mexico our friends made a tentative adventure with the gallant Blanquet, but it miscarried, perhaps owing to a slight misunderstanding between the bond interests and the industrial interests. However, we are quietly continuing our work in Mexico until the United States Government shall be put in a position to take it over. An American war with Mexico would cost us nothing; it would satisfy certain American industrial interests; it would guarantee out title to the Mexican oil fields; it would humble, by impoverishing, this purse-proud people; it would give us an opportunity to show the American that he isolated in the world needs our protection against our ally, Japan; and while America was busy warring we would enjoy a clear field in the European, African, and Asiatic trade, together with the monopoly of the markets of a South America hostile to the Monroe Doctrinaries of democracy. For these reasons our press is fully reporting Mexican outrages, but a strange apathy seems to have fallen on the people, an apathy from which only border raids or special atrocities will arouse them. . .

LEAGUE OF NATIONS
In other words, we must quickly act to transfer its dangerous sovereignty from this colony to the custody of the Crown. We must, in short, now bring America with in the Empire. God helping us, we can do no other. The first visible step in this direction has been taken; President Wilson has accepted and sponsored the plan for a League of Nations which we prepared for him. We have wrapped this plan in the peace treaty so that the world must accept from us the League or a continuance of the war. The League is in substance the Empire with America admitted on the same basis as our other colonies.

The effectiveness of the League will depend upon the power with which it can be endowed, and that will hinge upon the skill with which the cardinal functions of the American legislature are transferred to the executive Council of the League. Any abrupt change may startle the ignorant American masses and rouse them to action against it. And us. Our best policy, therefore, would be to appoint President Wilson first president of the League. When the fourteen points seemed to our Government twice seven daily sins, I analyzed with care his diverse and numerous notes and discourses and divided them into their two parts: One, the Wilson creed, "I believe in open covenants and in the freedom of the seas," etc.; and two, the Wilson commandments, "Might shall not prevail over right, the strong shall not oppress the weak," etc. From the "too proud to fight" and "he kept us out of war" episodes, I ventured to deduce (September 29, 1918, Appendix 36) that he would at the appropriate moment oblige us by transferring the "not" from his commandments to his creed without as much as a "may I not," and in such a way that his people will be none the wiser.

The plain people of this country are inveterate and incurable hero worshipers. They are, however, sincere in sentiment; and for a hero to become established in the public shrine, he must first succeed in getting his name associated with the phrases and slogans that seem to reflect the undefined aspirations of the average inhabitant. When this has been accomplished the allegiance is at once transferred from the sentiment to the sentimentalist, from the ideal to the maker of the longed-for phrase. No one understands this peculiarity of the native behavior better than Mr. Wilson, which accounts largely for his exceptional usefulness to us. He knows that Americans will not scrutinise any performance too closely, provided their faith in the performer has been adequately established. Mr. Wilson has since made the transfer amid American acclamation. In the same way he will now be able to satisfy them that far from surrendering their independence to the League they are actually extending their sovereignty by it. He alone can satisfy them on this. He alone can father an anti-Bolshevik act which judicially interpreted -- will enable appropriate punitive measures to be applied to any American who may be unwise enough to assert that America must again declare her independence. And he alone, therefore, is qualified to act for us as first president of the League.

I confess I am a little uneasy lest in the exigencies of diplomatic combat, Mr. Wilson may not have found the joy he anticipated from matching his wits against the best brains of Europe. He is easily slighted and remarkably vindictive. It is the highest degree desirable that any traces of resentment his mind may be harboring against us should be radically removed before he returns. I would, therefore, suggest that the work of adulation planned in Appendix 32 should be instructed to consult the inventories I have prepared (appendixes 45-83), which show that he is now surfeited with diamond stomachers, brooches, and bracelets, Gobelin tapestries, mosaics, and vases, gold caskets, and plates.

The program we arranged for his visit to England (appendix 33) including a royal reception at Buckingham Palace, with which the President was well pleased. The fruitful visit of the President to the King should be returned as early as possible. I would suggest that as soon as the President is settled once more in the White House, the visit should be returned by His Royal Highness, the Prince of Wales, who would be an admirable representative of His Royal Sire, and would satisfy President Wilson's sense of fitness. It is perhaps unfortunate that there is not a Presidential daughter of the Prince's age, for such a union would have greatly advanced our purpose not only with the American people, but also with a President who feels that lese majeste should be punishable with 20 years' imprisonment, and who acts as if he considered his son-in-law, Mr. McAdoo, as his heir apparent.

PRESIDENT WILSON'S PECULIARITIES
Too great attention cannot be given at this time to the Presidential peculiarities, for his devotion to our purpose will depend upon our ability to pander to them. I would suggest that the new ambassador to Washington should be chosen only after the most careful thought. He should not be too clever, lest Mr. Wilson shun him. He should be able to evince hilarity at the most venerable jest, no matter how often he may have to suffer it. This qualification is vitally important whether Mr. Wilson's "humor" is merely assumed to perpetuate the "human" tradition established for Presidents by Lincoln, or whether it is studied descent from Jovelike isolation to Jovelike jest. The ambassador should be a Wilson worshiper. I enclose (appendix 34) resumes of the methods of worship practiced by various members of his inner circle. The appointee would do well to familiarize himself with them, and my services are at his disposal should be desire more extended information on the method of worship he selects. He should of course be a commoner, that we may not lose democratic favor -- preferably a professor -- and sufficiently subsidized to be able to entertain regally. If a list were submitted to Mr. Wilson he might be prepared to indicate all of whom he did not approve, and the one against whom he expressed no prejudices should be appointed. The pressing need of our embassy at Washington is not so much an ambassador as a gentleman in waiting to the President.

I would suggest that his powers as President of the League of Nations be left undefined for the present. He may be trusted to assume what power he can and to use it in the interests of the Crown.

A grant of a privy purse of $100,000,000 would prove most acceptable to him and would be useful for private espionage, private wars, Siberian railroads, etc. His appointment should be for life, and you might definitely promise him that any instructions he may care to convey concerning his successor will receive the most careful attention of His Majesty's Government.

Nevertheless, it would be well quickly to reinforce him in the presidency of the League of Nations by staging the first session of the League in Washington. This will convince these simple people that they are the League and its power resides in them. Their pride in this power should be exalted. Perhaps you, yourself, might condescend to visit this country. Or, if that be impracticable, you might send such noble statesmen, and stately noblemen, as will suffice to make of the first League session a spectacle of unsurpassed brilliance. Indeed, it would be well to commence at an early date a series of spectacles by which the mob may be diverted from any attempt to think too much of matters beyond their province. The success of the Joffre, Vivianti Balfour, and other missions in amusing the people while the country was quietly put into the war shows that similar missions would likewise amuse the people -- while the country was quietly put into the League. I would suggest that missions of thanksgiving to America be organized, and that His Majesty the King of the Belgians, Cardinal Mercier, Field Marshal Foch, Venizelos, and an eminent Italian or two be sent seriatim.

PROPAGANDA
While awaiting these diversions for the vulgar, we are incessantly instructing them in the wonders of the League. Its praises are thundered by our press, decreed by our college presidents, and professed by our professors. Our authors, writers. and lecturers are analyzing its selected virtues for whomsoever will read or listen. As will be seen from appendix 39, circulars issued by the League of Nations committee, we have enlisted 8,000 pulpiteers or propagandists for the League. We have organized international and national synods, consistories, committees, conferences, convocations, conventions, councils, congresses, and assemblies, as well as their State, municipal, and district equivalents, to herald the birth of the League as the dawn of universal peace. A special Sunday will be observed as League Sunday in all churches. In this connection, may I remark that the appointment of Mr. Raymond Fosdick to the Secretariat of the League, has pleased not only the Rockefeller interests but also the less disingenuous uplifters, for it stamps the League as an endowed organization for promiscuous uplifting, under the triple crown of religion, respectability, and finance. Agriculturalists, bankers, brokers, chartered accounts, chemists, and all other functional groups capable of exerting organized professional, business, financial, or social pressure are meeting to endorse the League in the name of peace, progress, and prosperity.

The World's Peace Foundation has issued for us a series of League of Nations pamphlets, which, with our other literature, tax the mails to the limit of their capacity. Our film concerns are preparing an epoch-making picture entitled "The League of Nations." In brief, our entire system of thought control is working ceaselessly, tirelessly, ruthlessly, to insure the adoption of the League. And it will be adopted, for business wants peace, the righteous cannot resist a covenant, and the politicians, after shadow-boxing for patronage purposes, will yield valiantly lest the fate of the wanton and wilful pursue them.

By these means we hope smoothly to overcome all effective opposition on the on the part of our colony America to entering the League -- that is, the Empire. As soon as the League is functioning properly, His Majesty in response to loyal and repeated solicitation, might graciously be pleased to consent to restore to this people their ancient right to petition at the foot of the throne; to confer the ancient rank and style of governor general upon our Ambassador, that this colony may enjoy a status inferior to no other colony's; to establish the primacy of the Metropolitan See, with the Right Reverend Dr. Manning as first primate; to appoint Mr. Elihu Root lord chief justice of the colony, and to nominate Messrs. W. H. Taft, Nicholas Murray Butler, J. P. Morgan, Elizabeth Marbury, Adolph Ochs, and Thomas Lamont to the colonial privity council; as a special mark of royal and imperial condescension, to rename the Federal Capital of the Colony Georgetown, and lest section jealousy be thereby excited, to grant royal charters to the cities of Boston and Chicago entitling them thereafter to style themselves, respectively, Kingston and Guelf -- concisely to bestow in time and in measure such tokens of the bounty of the Crown as the fealty of the colonists merit.

BRITISH-AMERICAN UNION URGED
Since that memorable day, September 19, 1877, on which the late Cecil Rhodes devised by will a fund "to and for the establishment, promotion, and development of a secret society -- the true aim of which and object of which shall be the extension of British rule throughout the world, and especially the ultimate recovery of the United States of America as an integral part of the British Empire" -- the energy and intelligence of England has not been spent in vain. It would perhaps be presumptuous of me to refer here to the admirable services rendered not only by LORD NORTHCLlFFE (the probable author of the report) and the corps of 12,000 trained workers whom he introduced here during the year as purchasing agents under the direction of Sir Campbell Stuart, but also the right Honorable Arthur J. Balfour, and by Lord Reading. But my report would be incomplete without a reference to Mr. Andrew Carnegie, of Skibo Castle, Sutherlandshire, and New York City. He unobtrusively assumed the mantle of the late Mr. Cecil Rhodes. Through the Carnegie Foundation, he obtained such control over the professorate of this country that even President Wilson was a suppliant for a Carnegie pension before this people and allied gratitude placed him beyond prospective want.

The Carnegie League to Enforce Peace and its affiliate League of Small Nations are even now leading the van in our fight. In the North American Review, June 1893, Mr. Carnegie wrote: "Let men say what they will, I say that as surely as the sun in the heavens once shone upon Britain and America united, so surely is it one morning to rise, to shine upon, to greet again, the reunited state -- the British-American union."

The object of Cecil Rhodes is almost attained. The day prophesied by Mr. Carnegie is near at hand, the day when the American Colonies will be in all things one with the motherland, one and indivisible. Only the last great battle remains to be. fought -- the battle to compel her acceptance of the terms of the League of Nations."

Colonel House

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Why not vote for what you want instead of voting for Exactly what you don't want based on FEAR.

There is a choice.

Vote Green Party.

http://blackagendareport.com/content/2-years-bp-gulf-disaster-proves-oba...

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another useless message full of lies, just like oil companies get special tax breaks and subsidizes.

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another useless message full of lies, just like oil companies get special tax breaks and subsidizes.
Ain't it awful? You think the oil companies don't get heavy tax breaks and subsidies? Who told you these things? It's really easy to find this stuff on the web, and you don't have to go to liberal websites to find them.
According to the most recent study by the Congressional Budget Office, released in 2005, capital investments like oil field leases and drilling equipment are taxed at an effective rate of 9 percent, significantly lower than the overall rate of 25 percent for businesses in general and lower than virtually any other industry.
This is from the NY Times, a substantially more respected source than the Moonie NY Post, which is calling this a lie.

People are going to consider the source.

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Quote antikakistocrat:Since that memorable day, September 19, 1877, on which the late Cecil Rhodes devised by will a fund "to and for the establishment, promotion, and development of a secret society -- the true aim of which and object of which shall be the extension of British rule throughout the world, and especially the ultimate recovery of the United States of America as an integral part of the British Empire" -- the energy and intelligence of England has not been spent in vain. It would perhaps be presumptuous of me to refer here to the admirable services rendered not only by LORD NORTHCLlFFE (the probable author of the report) and the corps of 12,000 trained workers whom he introduced here during the year as purchasing agents under the direction of Sir Campbell Stuart, but also the right Honorable Arthur J. Balfour, and by Lord Reading. But my report would be incomplete without a reference to Mr. Andrew Carnegie, of Skibo Castle, Sutherlandshire, and New York City. He unobtrusively assumed the mantle of the late Mr. Cecil Rhodes. Through the Carnegie Foundation, he obtained such control over the professorate of this country that even President Wilson was a suppliant for a Carnegie pension before this people and allied gratitude placed him beyond prospective want.


The Carnegie League to Enforce Peace and its affiliate League of Small Nations are even now leading the van in our fight. In the North American Review, June 1893, Mr. Carnegie wrote: "Let men say what they will, I say that as surely as the sun in the heavens once shone upon Britain and America united, so surely is it one morning to rise, to shine upon, to greet again, the reunited state -- the British-American union."

The object of Cecil Rhodes is almost attained. The day prophesied by Mr. Carnegie is near at hand, the day when the American Colonies will be in all things one with the motherland, one and indivisible. Only the last great battle remains to be. fought -- the battle to compel her acceptance of the terms of the League of Nations."

Antikakistokrat, where did you get the information that you posted?

Also, if you want to bring this to people's attention, why did you post it here instead of making it a new topic? Having a foreign nation controlling a treasonous president to implament their evil plan to take over the United States is no small matter—not a century ago, or in the present or in the future. Does this not deserve discussion?

Does Britain still feel entited to run their American Colonies?

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I like the information you posted but I think Karolina makes a good point. This would have made a great new post indicating what it is.

Carroll Quigley quotes:

The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world.

Carroll Quigley quotes :

For the first time in its history, Western Civilization is in danger of being destroyed internally by a corrupt, criminal ruling cabal which is centered around the Rockefeller interests, which include elements from the Morgan, Brown, Rothschild, Du Pont, Harriman, Kuhn-Loeb, and other groupings as well. This junta took control of the political, financial, and cultural life of America in the first two decades of the twentieth century.

Carroll Quigley quotes :

The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) is the American Branch of a society which originated in England... (and) ...believes national boundaries should be obliterated and one-world rule established. I know of the operations of this network because I have studied it for twenty years, and was permitted in the early 1960's to examine its papers and secret records. … I believe its role in history is significant enough to be known.

Carroll Quigley quotes:

I am now quite sure that 'Tragedy and Hope' was suppressed although I do not know why or by whom.

Carroll Quigley quotes:

In 1891, [Cecile] Rhodes organized a secret society with members in a "Circle of Initiates" and an outer circle known as the "Association of Helpers" later organized as the Round Table organization. In 1909-1913, they organized semi-secret groups known as Round Table Groups in the chief British dependencies and the United States. In 1919, they founded the Royal Institute of International Affairs. Similar Institutes of International Affairs were established in the chief British dominions and the United States where it is known as the Council on Foreign Relations. After 1925, the Institute of Pacific Relations was set up in twelve Pacific area countries. They were constantly harping on the lessons to be learned from the failure of the American Revolution and the success of the Canadian federation of 1867 and hoped to federate the various parts of the empire and then confederate the whole with the United Kingdom. ... There does exist and has existed for a generation, an international Anglophile network which operates to some extent in the way the Radical Right believes the Communists act. In fact, this network, which we may identify as the Round Table Groups, has no aversion to cooperating with the Communists, or any other groups, and frequently does so. I know of the operations of this network because I have studied it for twenty years and was permitted for two years, in the early 1960s, to examine its papers and secret records. I have no aversion to it or to most of its aims and have, for much of my life, been close to it and to many of its instruments. I have objected, both in the past and recently, to a few of its policies but in general my chief difference of opinion is that it wishes to remain unknown, and I believe its role in history is significant enough to be known.

Also Know theThe Pilgrim Society mostly Quigly's Milner Group from Cecil Rhodes from Rothschild. Also look at the business and personal relationships between Ruport Murdoch (FOX) and the Rothschilds. The flag waving rednecks who watch fox don't realize their favorite news channel and well paid materialistic pundits are sponsored in one way or another by Rothschilds, the same one who gave us the Federal Reserve and the debt based fiat, fractional reserve system we all suffer under. Go Fox rednecks, git er done. Wave your flag and bear your cross and bow at the feet of the Rothschilds empire and Murdoch of Mordor.

http://www.gnosticliberationfront.com/pilgrims_society.htm

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Quote workingman:

another useless message full of lies, just like oil companies get special tax breaks and subsidizes.

poly replies: Right....LOL. Colorado voters approved a continuation of oil co. exemptions on property taxes in Colorado in the last election. It seems that misinformed homeowners prefer raising their own property taxes to make up for oil companies paying none.

Perhaps you should check out facts before posting absurdities.

Retired Monk - "Ideology is a disease".

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Quote Poly:Right....LOL. Colorado voters approved a continuation of oil co. exemptions on property taxes in Colorado in the last election. It seems that misinformed homeowners prefer raising their own property taxes to make up for oil companies paying none.

Perhaps you should check out facts before posting absurdities.

Retired Monk - "Ideology is a disease".

...and THIS is the reason Ben Franklin told the American people that they were given "a Constitutional Republic" and that he hoped, but questioned whether or not they were "wise" enough to keep it.

A complete democracy where everyone votes for everything, means that the general population will vote for what they are CONDITIONED to believe is right, ie. they are flooded with propaganda and stop thinking for themselves (think FOX). In Constitutional Republic the people choose someone that they trust to be a good representative for their needs, AND wise enough to listen to them and know what is best for their needs, AND honest enough to vote to pass that which is best for them, no matter who is trying to bribe the elected representative or flood her/him with propaganda.

Unlike the people under a monarchy, or a plutocrasy, or a corporatocrasy, or an oligarchy, or a fascist system. The people in those systems live as the property of the people at the top, and they live also to reproduce to keep human beings available for the needs of the people at the top, generation after generation. Hence, patriarchy, women are kept as second-class citizens and birth control is discouraged or even banned.

This "Ignorantia juris non excusat" as well as NDAA are examples of great ways to get rid of humans once they have outlived their value or are more trouble than they are worth to the people at the top. It is exteremly creepy, and demoralizing, but IMO we need to see it for what it is.

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another useless message full of lies, just like oil companies get special tax breaks and subsidizes.

You're worse than a dog chasing his tail in a circle......You along with the other trollers around here need to do some serious reading....You can start with the oil companies and what our government gives them every year......

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Antikakistokrat, is theletter that you posted on here last night also from Prison Planet, like most of the other stuff you post here, or is it from somewhere or something else?

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Antikakistokrat, is theletter that you posted on here last night also from Prison Planet, like most of the other stuff you post here, or is it from somewhere or something else?

From Prison Planet.

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=231670.0

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I just followed the link, and unfortunately they don't have any information about where they picked that letter up.

Thank you for answering my question, though, Antikakistokrat.

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another useless message full of lies, just like oil companies get special tax breaks and subsidizes.

poly replies: Right....LOL. Colorado voters approved a continuation of oil co. exemptions on property taxes in Colorado in the last election. It seems that misinformed homeowners prefer raising their own property taxes to make up for oil companies paying none.

Perhaps you should check out facts before posting absurdities.

Retired Monk - "Ideology is a disease".

I was talking about the federal governmemt not state governments. If the state of colorado wants to give business a reason ti do business in the state that is their call.

I bet you also believe gm paid the loans back too.

Excuse typos posted from phone

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another useless message full of lies, just like oil companies get special tax breaks and subsidizes.

You're worse than a dog chasing his tail in a circle......You along with the other trollers around here need to do some serious reading....You can start with the oil companies and what our government gives them every year......

Just like gm paid its loan back right another left wing myth.

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another useless message full of lies, just like oil companies get special tax breaks and subsidizes.

You're worse than a dog chasing his tail in a circle......You along with the other trollers around here need to do some serious reading....You can start with the oil companies and what our government gives them every year......

Just like gm paid its loan back right another left wing myth.

You're a typical repignut bossman......when cornered and proven wrong you try and change the subject.....Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha...

BTW........I'm one person who is glad GM is still around debt free or not.....Had Obama not helped them this country would have been in a depression instead of the worse resession since the great depression which your party gave this country way back when. Question is bossman......why do you people F up everything you come into contact with?

Your party is full of losers when it comes to National Security, Economics, Military Judgement and just plain governing. Come to think of it your party sucks ......period!

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To be kind with our little friend here, he is only regurgitating what he has heard from the sources that he believes in. The "oil subsidies are a lie" thing comes from the NY Post, The "GM payback is a lie" theing comes from this Fox News Article. It actually sounds plausible. I'll wait untill I get it from an actual news source.

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Quote Sprinklerfitter:
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Quote Sprinklerfitter:
Quote workingman:

another useless message full of lies, just like oil companies get special tax breaks and subsidizes.

You're worse than a dog chasing his tail in a circle......You along with the other trollers around here need to do some serious reading....You can start with the oil companies and what our government gives them every year......

Just like gm paid its loan back right another left wing myth.

You're a typical repignut bossman......when cornered and proven wrong you try and change the subject.....Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha...

BTW........I'm one person who is glad GM is still around debt free or not.....Had Obama not helped them this country would have been in a depression instead of the worse resession since the great depression which your party gave this country way back when. Question is bossman......why do you people F up everything you come into contact with?

Your party is full of losers when it comes to National Security, Economics, Military Judgement and just plain governing. Come to think of it your party sucks ......period!

Cnn has even said that special tax breaks for oil companies is not true just like loopholes in taxes for the rich is a lie. Every company and every citizen gets the same tax policy as every one else on a federal level. Oil companies do not receive subsidise either if they do post the federal budget that shows it. The new york times is not creditable source. They have been busted for plagiarism more then once and making up stories as well. The government should have let gm and chrysler fail we could have replaced them with car companies that make cars people want.

why do you think everything is f Ed up because people are free, the military is only f Ed uo when the left cuts their funding off so they can give hugs and wwtnaps to terrorist. The economy would be fine if the left would stop trying to legislate the poor away.

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I just followed the link, and unfortunately they don't have any information about where they picked that letter up.

Thank you for answering my question, though, Antikakistokrat.

It was a letter I pulled off of Prison Planet a few months back regarding skeptics who still doubt the New World Order actually exists or the British connection with it. Others have sourced it a few months back, but yeah this is the one I found.

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Every company and every citizen gets the same tax policy as every one else on a federal level.
C'mon now! Even you know that this isn't true. President Obama's Small Business Jobs Act of 2010 provided very special depreciation rules just for qualifying small businesses.
The new york times is not creditable source.
How about the CBO? That's where the NY Times got it. Pretty soon, we're going to be getting to where Fox News is the only credible source on the planet.

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Quote workingman:
Quote Sprinklerfitter:
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Quote Sprinklerfitter:
Quote workingman:

another useless message full of lies, just like oil companies get special tax breaks and subsidizes.

You're worse than a dog chasing his tail in a circle......You along with the other trollers around here need to do some serious reading....You can start with the oil companies and what our government gives them every year......

Just like gm paid its loan back right another left wing myth.

You're a typical repignut bossman......when cornered and proven wrong you try and change the subject.....Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha...

BTW........I'm one person who is glad GM is still around debt free or not.....Had Obama not helped them this country would have been in a depression instead of the worse resession since the great depression which your party gave this country way back when. Question is bossman......why do you people F up everything you come into contact with?

Your party is full of losers when it comes to National Security, Economics, Military Judgement and just plain governing. Come to think of it your party sucks ......period!

Cnn has even said that special tax breaks for oil companies is not true just like loopholes in taxes for the rich is a lie. Every company and every citizen gets the same tax policy as every one else on a federal level. Oil companies do not receive subsidise either if they do post the federal budget that shows it. The new york times is not creditable source. They have been busted for plagiarism more then once and making up stories as well. The government should have let gm and chrysler fail we could have replaced them with car companies that make cars people want. why do you think everything is f Ed up because people are free, the military is only f Ed uo when the left cuts their funding off so they can give hugs and wwtnaps to terrorist. The economy would be fine if the left would stop trying to legislate the poor away.

I almost feel sorry for you then I think about what kind of GOPimpNut I'm dealing with. You really do need to do some serious reading and soon! Most of these folks around here provide very good links to read and read everyone of them you should. You give a whole new meaning to the deer in the headlight look comment.

Are not all those thousands of tax laws created by politicians through the years nothing but loopholes to keep someone or some corporation from paying taxes? Are you really that frickin dense to believe what you posted above?

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The "oil subsidies are a lie" thing comes from the NY Post,
It dawned on me what the NT Post is saying, and they're probably telling the truth. GM got some TARP funds and GM got a loan. Then they used their TARP funds to pay off part of their loans. The Post is outraged bacause GM isn't paying back their TARP funds, but is telling us how they paid off ther loan. I don't believe the TARP funds were considered to be loans for any corporation. I'm not sure why GM would be expected to pay back their TARP money when no other corporation is expected to.

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Choco, I was surprised that Carroll Quigley was okay with the idea that this secret British society's aim was to force a global system onto all nations and peoples, so they would be the global rulers of that system. His only beef was that they were doing that in secrecy? Whatever. He was an influence on Bill Clinton?

You might be interested in some videos about the US-British behind-the-scenes relations that I have watched over the past few months. They are 1932: Speak Not of Parties But of Universal Principles, Firewall: In Defense of the Nation State, and Who We Fight.

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