Drug Test Non Tax Payers!!!!

That implythth at we are giving them anything instead of not taking as much of theeproperty where in welfare you are giving some one else's property to the recipient class.

A tax break is not the same as Wellfare by far. Atax break allows u to keep more of what u earned where Wellfare gives someone something theyhave not earned.

You have hit on a really good idea. I would also include all senators, Federal judges, & Congresspeople. The results should be published & people found positive should have their pay & benefits suspended as well as their voting rights. Remember their pay is Our tax money.

How about deporting those that fail the drug testing?  After throwing them in jail for 10-15 years.... long enough for them to lose their job skills and contacts (the Wall Street crowd).... And maybe start a colony for them somewhere "interesting" like the Antarctic or Easter Island.

NO I'm not recieving anything from the federagovernment so there for no test isrequired.

You don't receive protection and freedom from the Federal government?  Why are all of our soldiers sacraficing themselves then.  You don't drive on Interstates?  Did you go to college for 12 years and counting with no Federal help?  The college you attend doesn't receive any Federal help?  How does one go through life in the United States without receiving anything from the Federal government?

I go to a private christian school went to a bare bones Christian church school so my education has been funded entirely by me and my family. I am saying that a tax break having the  government give them anything where as welfare recives money not earned 

So if you're going to a Christian school, does that mean you're a Christian?

If so, where is your Christ centered ethic of caring for others?  I went to a Christian college, too.  We were taught that Christ said it was our obligation to care for the sick, poor and the unfortunate among us.  Do you believe that Christ taught these things?

Yes but I believe that should be left to the church not the government.

My reading of the Bible does not say where it should come from, but that it should be done.  

If "we the people" which is the government wish to help others aren't we doing what Christ taught? 

Does that mean there is no seperation of church and state and roe v wade can be overturned? 

I'm asking you about what you believe Christ taught us about helping the poor.  Do you believe that the Christ taught us to help our fellow man and that it is our duty to help others?

No awnser the question if you believe that this christ teaching should be applied why shouldn't sanctity of life be applied to the federal government?

I know you don't want to answer my question because you cannot defend your position.  Trying to change the subject is a weak tactic.  

If the "church" should be the only entity to help the poor and needy, then it has utterly failed at that task.  

There are 23 million children in America living in poverty.  One in four children go to bed hungry every night in America.  The "church" is incapable of dealing with these numbers.  

So if each of us as a "church" (a sacred place of God) wishes to aid these children with our hard earned tax dollars, why should that be blocked and prevented?  Would Christ care when the aid came from?

You cannot cherry pick verses of the bible if you want to impose Christ impose all of Christ. 

When Christ (according to the Bible) was teaching anyone who would listen, there weren't any churches.  Churches exist to remind people of Christ's teachings.  Unfortunately now churches extract more money from people than it injects back to people.  I think that Christ would be ashamed of the church.  They rarely represent what he taught.  CC is a prime example of the product of the teachings of the church.

You seem to be the one cherry picking.  Answer my question.

No I'm not Jesus said for the individual  to provide he never called for government to force charity.

 Forced charity is not charity.

Where did he mention the government.  "Render unto Caesar....." did he say that?  Did he say anything about what Caesar should do with the taxes?  

No one is forcing me.... I want my tax dollars to assist the poor.  Since the "church" is completely incapable of dealing with the 23 million children living in poverty and the one in four children going to bed hungry each and every night, my tax dollars are well spent helping these children.  I'm doing with my tax dollars what Christ told us to do.  

Theyo why not ask fougly your taxes back so u cangive it away yourself and cut out the middle man andwaste?

You need to go to English class.

The point is that they are helping the children the "church" has not helped.  Isn't that what Christ would find the true point?

And if you "feel forced" ..... then maybe you need to examine your own heart, not criticize the good works of others.

 Its the phone.

Enough verbal masturbation on this already! With all that is going on-this is a priority? This is a right wing troll topic. Nobody has ever been able to choose what their taxes go for-your elected representatives decide and majority rules. 

Thanks for the clarity.  

I'm done, made my point.

Welfare is not the good work of others! The good work of others is the church that distributes charitybout of thegoodness of their heart not their benefit.

What a narrow minded definition of good works.  Very convenient to dismiss what others are trying to do.  Not very Christ like.

You're right.... as you well know it's just really hard not to keep engaging.  I will do my best to restrain myself.  

I wasn't the one that brought up the church I'm just defending it.

Let's get back to what we were on before jan dirailed the conversation.

Well we are one of the top 25 business schools in the country. And you don't cover anything for me I took private loans and my private school accepts no tax payer money.

I thought your degree was something to do with energy or environmental remediation or something?

Minor in business 

Minor in business 

Minor in business 

Minor in business 

Well so does the wellfare recipient but I at least contribute to that constitutional expenditure the welfare recipient does not. I was saying that as an individual I cost u nothing.

Wow a major in business is pretty worthless, much less a minor (unless it's in accounting or finance - for which you really don't need 4 years of college.)  Your bread and butter is the major in the applied science.