A Rational Move in an Irrational World

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The play involves Syria, Russia, Iran, Turkey and US, and UN.Talks, call the bluff, adopt France's [France IS involved, it's never US alone, except on fox] no fly zone. Or just launch a mittler strategy of boots on the ground invasion, a mittzkrieg.

The first negotiation is an agreement on a term, not terms, term aka civil war

The U.N. war over calling Syria a "civil war" Posted By Colum Lynch Wednesday, June 13, 2012 - 6:49 PM Share

Herve Ladsous, the U.N.'s peacekeeping chief, acknowledged on Tuesday that Syria was now effectively in a state of civil war.

The statement may seem self-evident to anyone watching the escalation of fighting between the Syrian government, which is using attack helicopters, tanks, and mortars against civilians and armed opposition fighters, which have themselves stepped up attacks against government targets.

But the declaration triggered a sharp rebuke from the Syrian government and prompted the U.N. leadership to say that Ladsous has no legal standing to judge the nature of the Syrian conflict. Ban Ki-moon's office issued a statement saying the "UN secretariat will not characterize the conflict in Syria."

"Talk of civil war in Syria is not consistent with reality," the Syrian Foreign Ministry said in a statement. "What is happening in Syria is a war against terrorist groups plotting against the future of the Syrian people."

douglaslee's picture
Jul. 31, 2007 3:01 pm


Canada's largest daily newspaper has been undermined by an editorial coup d'etat. Please read "Will Torstar punish its rogue editors who engineered Conservative election win?" in www.WRISEUP.COM.

Henry McRandall
Jun. 12, 2012 6:07 pm

Henry, your posts are a little disappointing. Canada has always been the civil country, and friendly [I tell my daughters Canada today is what America was 30 years ago] I think the same about Australia, but we haven't visited there yet. I think America will be a war zone for at least a generation.

douglaslee's picture
Jul. 31, 2007 3:01 pm

Professor Lopez made two points which needed to be made: 1) Iran needs to be involved and 2) talks need to grant safety to perhaps both Assad and his circle as well as the rebels. He seems to assume the outcome will be Assad being removed from power (perhaps by assassination, though he doesn't specify who will do the assassinating), a desireable outcome of course but not a given even in the event of an arms embargo. Assad being what he is, nonetheless he has allowed first an Arab-league observer group and next the UN into Syria. If he cannot be removed from power, the result may nevertheless be a more open Syrian society where the UN, human rights groups, and NGOs play a role in the gradual transition of Syrian society.

nimblecivet's picture
Jul. 31, 2007 3:01 pm

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