Syria peace plan dead?; and some other regional news of interest

10 posts / 0 new
Last post
nimblecivet
nimblecivet's picture

According to "a spokesman" for the rebels quoted in this Reuters report carried by "Today's Zaman" it is.                                                     http://www.todayszaman.com/news-282478-syria-opposition-says-no-longer-committed-to-annan-plan.html                                                       The rebels say they are only targeting checkpoints in the cities and not attacking bases, etc. But they are now calling for a no-fly zone and are insisting on the end goal of the removal of Assad.

China warns against civil war in Syria: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/06/04/syria-crisis-china-idUSL3E8H41ZV20120604?rpc=401&feedType=RSS&feedName=rbssEnergyNews&rpc=401

China is of course wanting access to oil, and is facing pressure from "some Arab countries" to toughen its stance.

 

I've seen articles about conflicts between factions in Libya, potential conflict and turmoil in Egypt over the elections going on there, and now there's this: http://www.asharq-e.com/news.asp?section=1&id=29835 ("Countdown to al-Maliki no confidence vote has begun – Iraqiya spokesperson", 01/06/2012 By Ma'ad Fayad) If Al-Maliki falls that's a major change, and it all makes me wonder what role "planned chaos" has in what's going on in the region.

Not only has Hillary Clinton requested that oil production be at a high level, but this article suggests that it is being kept high to destabilize Iraq and Iran: http://www.rt.com/news/saudi-arabia-oil-plot-754/  Yes, al-Maliki is a sunni, but Iran is heavily invested in his regime, and al Sadr may not heed Iran's request for him to rescind his call for al Maliki to resign: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/04/iran-tries-to-salvage-ira_n_1569204.html This article also discusses attempts by Iran to influence the character of Shi'a religious leadership towards embracing theocracy, which makes the Kurds and secularists uneasy.

 

Also: http://news.yahoo.com/sadr-secular-bloc-push-iraq-pm-quit-152002660.html

Quote:

The crises have paralysed government, especially parliament, which has passed no significant legislation except for the budget, while other important measures such as a hydrocarbons law regulating the country's oil sector have been delayed.

Comments

nimblecivet
nimblecivet's picture
Now Russia is building

Now Russia is building military ties with China. http://news.yahoo.com/russias-putin-says-push-military-ties-china-085745345.html

Of course, that's pertinent to the other side of the world; but whatever happens in Syria, this type of development has implications for the long run which probably will see more chaos of the Middle East as the world edges closer to peak oil.

Karolina
Karolina's picture
nimblecivet wrote:Now Russia

nimblecivet wrote:
Now Russia is building military ties with China.

Of course, that's pertinent to the other side of the world; but whatever happens in Syria, this type of development has implications for the long run which probably will see more chaos of the Middle East as the world edges closer to peak oil.

Or for thermonuclear war, which has been the goal of the oligarchical elite all along—unless Russia & China agree to stop making plans for the progress of their nations & agree to start making payments & sacrifices to support the oligagarch's failing Trans-Atlantic economies.

Everybody's  getting all their "Allies" in a row for a very short WW3. With thermonuclear war, even the other side of the world ain't so far away—especially if it's flown over.

Bush_Wacker
Bush_Wacker's picture
The ongoing facism in this

The ongoing facism in this country has weakened it substantially and the world powers are licking their chops.  The trashing of our democracy from within opens the door for the relentless march of imperialism.  We need to get our economy up and running and run the facists out of town.  A strong democratic country where EVERY citizen has something at stake makes a fierce opponent.  A week democratic country where a large portion of the citizenry are low on esteem and hope makes an easy target.

Karolina
Karolina's picture
"Bingo!" —  as usual Bush

"Bingo!" —  as usual Bush Wacker.

Yesterday evening Thom talked about building a movement on principle. IMO, that is the only way to rebuild a solid democratic nation too — and resolidifying a democratic Constitutional Republic, weakened by long-term passive-aggressive and undercover corruption. 

nimblecivet
nimblecivet's picture
After the massacre in Homs,

After the massacre in Homs, the rebels abandoned the cease-fire. Meetings in Istanbul are coordinating military actions on the part of the rebels to unseat Assad. Secretary of State Clinton continues to insist on the ouster of Assad after further slaughter in the town of Mazraat al-Qubeir. This time some 70+ have been killed "by forces loyal to Syrian President Bashar al-Assad" and U.N. monitors on the way there were fired upon. Russia and China demand that the Annan (United Nations) plan continue to be persued, and UN officials have called for Annan to revise his plan to demonstrate its feasability. The US and other nations have expressed that they reserve the right under Chapter VII of the U.N. charter to use "all necessary measures" to enforce Annan's peace plan. While Russia and China oppose the use of force by outside powers to depose Assad, and also oppose meeting the rebels' request for weapons, the U.S. and others oppose including Iran in a fresh attempt to allow international diplomacy to rescue the peace plan. The U.S. and its supporters are thus establishing a scenario similar to what unfolded in Libya in that Assad, like Gadhafi, is evidently under threat of military action carried out by the U.S. and its allies in the name of enforcing a U.N. initiative proving to have opened the door for regime change.

http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/06/04/218570.html   Syrian activists form ‘military coalition’ against Assad’s regime, By Al Arabiya With  Agencies  Monday, 04 June 2012

http://news.yahoo.com/clinton-condemns-syria-violence-says-assad-must-003047641.html

http://news.yahoo.com/syria-accused-massacre-u-n-meets-005909027.html

http://news.yahoo.com/survivor-tells-horror-syrian-village-150046098.html

 

nimblecivet
nimblecivet's picture
I don't know if Assad has any

I don't know if Assad has any options, either to survive politically or (assuming that he would want to or be able to) survive stepping down from power. The U.S. continues to insist on building a "missile defense" system which it is claimed is oriented towards Iran, but Russia has expressed its opposition to its being built, seeing it as a threat. If the thermonuclear war scenario plays out, it may be because Russia sees Syria as an opportunity to confront the U.S./western regional and global agenda. To think that at one point there was even the question of Russia joining NATO!

Karolina
Karolina's picture
The Russians are only

The Russians are only defending their sovereignty.

Either we stop the bailouts with Glass Steagall (and its equivalents in Europe), bringing down the Empire in the City of London and on Wall Street, and launch national banking, returning every nation to sovereignty, so we can all build the infrastructure we've let go for the last 40 or so years — or the war is on ... for at least a half an hour. 

If we do these things, it also means we’ll have to NOT have someone in the White House who might be be prone to push the Thermonuclear Button. The choices are grim....but then again, who knows if we'll make it to the election.

nimblecivet
nimblecivet's picture
Annan's plan is to include

Annan's plan is to include Iran as part of the "contact group" tasked with orchestrating some kind of a resolution to the conflict in Syria. While the U.S. has oppossed this, the main goal of the U.S., that Assad be removed from power, is now an explicit part of the U.N. agenda as part of Annan's proposal. Assad has given the rebels a 24 hour ultimatum.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/06/syria-crisis-annan-new-plan_n_1574737.html

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/06/07/245014/syria-warns-militants-to-lay-down-arms/

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/06/07/245028/brzezinski-dont-be-emotional-on-syria/

nimblecivet
nimblecivet's picture
The fighting continues for

The fighting continues for now. Assad knows that if he cracks down too hard Russia and China will desert him. They can find other ways of protecting their interests than to back someone who will draw them into a war with the U.S., and Iran does not have sufficient ability to assist him militarily. If the rebels push too hard they know that they cannot defeat a superior force and that the U.S. will not act unilaterally, despite the rhetoric from Romney etc. On the other hand, each side may feel that it is necessary to accomplish strategic goals before complying with the cease fire. If the rebels cannot acheive their goal of ousting Assad, then they must secure towns and areas where they will be safe. Assad likely wants to keep the conflict going in hopes of preventing this from happening. The U.S. is the main culprit to blame, however, because in our insistence that we want the Assad regime to fall immediately we ensure that Assad has no other recourse but to attempt to crush the rebellion utterly, preventing it from having any type of cohesion that could survive politically during a U.N. monitored ceasefire. If the U.S. drops this goal, Syria could be the only country to have endured this level of violence (over 13,000 dead so far) and still manage a political transition. The military will not place Assad on trial the way Mubarak was in Egypt. Assad won't rely on air power to fight the rebels and risk being targetted the way Gaddhafi was.

http://news.yahoo.com/u-n-report-says-both-sides-syria-abuse-144133920.html

http://news.yahoo.com/video/world-15749633/clashes-erupt-in-syria-s-rastan-29292133.html

http://news.yahoo.com/video/world-15749633/syria-rebels-kidnap-13-lebanese-shi-ites-29427409.html#crsl=%252Fvideo%252Fworld-15749633%252Fsyria-rebels-kidnap-13-lebanese-shi-ites-29427409.html

http://news.yahoo.com/smell-death-lingers-syrian-massacre-village-104415063.html