The Bush recession has hit non-college educated workers the hardest

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A new study by the Center on Education and the Workforce at Georgetown shows that more than 5 million workers without a college degree have lost their jobs since the economy went into meltdown in 2008. To make matters worse, it’s increasingly more difficult to obtain a college degree in America. As Bloomberg News reports, since 1978 the price of a college degree has increased by more than 1,120% - much higher than most other essentials like healthcare, housing, and food.

If this trend continues, then people born today should expect to spend more than $400,000 a college degree by the time they become of age. College has now become a luxury only for the rich – and not a tool that anyone can use to achieve the American Dream – like it used to be. In order to create a more egalitarian economy and bring back the middle class – we need to do what other developed nations are doing: make college free.

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Ignoring for the moment the increasingly legitimate question as to how important a college degree really is, vs. how it may be perceived by some to be (i.e. many, many good, hard working people do well, serve themselves, as well as others well via trade/tech school, etc ),

how exactly do we make college "free?" By enacting Universal Educare? Angry speeches decrying Big Education? Enacting stiff regulations controlling faculty salaries and tuition, and a giant bureaucracy to enforce it? Just curious.

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How do we make college free?

Don't charge the students, fool, how do you think?

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A new study by the Center on Education and the Workforce at Georgetown shows that more than 5 million workers without a college degree have lost their jobs since the economy went into meltdown in 2008.

It's only common sense that the most vulnerable are the ones most harmed. The so called wealthy simply sit on their money and don't reinvest in, or create new businesses when the conditions make that too risky. Again, that's common sense to most who have a grasp of reality.

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how exactly do we make college "free?" By enacting Universal Educare?

Is there anything you people don't think should be provided at no cost to all?

In your modern utopia, who ultimately foots the bill for all these free goodies? What is the tax rate for all US Citizens?

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Tahuyman: Can't you see that, as one of those "you people," I have absolutely no skepticism about the total necessity and complete ease with which virtually everything can and should be provided at no cost to everybody? Everybody should get free healthcare, free housing, free cars, free futniture, free food, free beer, free books, free TV's, free MacPro's, free college, free admission to any movie, free personal improvement counselors, free electricity, free water, free dishes, free diapers, free clothes, free Nike's, and free posters that say "question authority." Come to think of it, can't those right wingnuts see how great this lollipopland would be, and it even solves the unemployment problem.!?! In this great utopia where everyone gets for free what everyone has a right to (which is everything, obviously!), jobs would be passe, a stupid anachronism nobody would need!

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Probably we could revise the tax code back to what it used to be.

The U.S. generates $160,000 annually per each family of 4. Some families live on about $12,000 and many live on under $20,000. That leaves quite a bit of excess somewhere. A portion could be used to finance education.

When I first attended a public college many years ago, the "tuition" was a $3 administrative fee for each class. Of course, the tax structure was a bit different. Higher education was supported by government through taxation.

In Denmark, if you're thrown into unemployment, you can attend university free...and receive an income until you obtain your degree. The "wealthiest" nation....the U.S...., can't even provide the education let alone an income. Absurd

In some nation's, the elites are benevolent and do what works for the well-being of their populations and their country. . In most countries, including ours, they don't..

Retired Monk - "Ideology is a disease"

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Thanks Poly, what the Tahuyahoos never get is the interdependence of an economic system. Who pays for the austerity? When you have the symbiosis of mutuality in economic interchange, value is added and money is there to pay for what is needed. When it each for himself, there is very little invested in economic activity and fewer able to buy.

I am getting over being amazed at the incredible inability of our cons to appreciate what investments are v. spending. There is a stupidity to this "private sector" romance where nothing government or collective ownership can ever be part of the real economy. None of those public sector jobs are real because they are paid for by taxes. Really! This is dumber than dumb. The idea that teachers do not create value that commerce really needs is astounding. It just never stops.

It does make sense that ideological conservatives must deny sound economic doctrine and insist on a fantasy world that only makes sense on the inside. That is true of cults and their diseased minds.

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Quote Tahuyaman:
Quote WhitemoonG:

how exactly do we make college "free?" By enacting Universal Educare?

Is there anything you people don't think should be provided at no cost to all?

In your modern utopia, who ultimately foots the bill for all these free goodies? What is the tax rate for all US Citizens?

Taxes collected are down to about 14% of GDP, one third of Germany's 40%.

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Reply to Tahuyaman asking who foots the bill for all goodies...

I came across this link for the financial party of Canada at

http://www.financialparty.ca/index.htm

It is an alternate view of organizing society with no debt. It shows that each person would have an endowment of C$350,000 to explore and develop his or her interest and...

Where will the money come from? Canada already has it and is distributed differently.....

I can't cut and paste the relevant parts but you can go to that site and see.

How to make college education free is just like asking how to make toll roads free. There are no toll roads in India and university eduction is also free. Poor India recognises the value of education and has to support it. India is not afraid of govt deficits.

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Our kids are counting on us to reverse austerity.

According to UNICEF, even in the world's richest countires, children remain “the most enduring victims” of the recession. In the last six years, 2.6 million more kids have fallen below the poverty line, and more than half of them live right here in the United States.

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