What does Romney have to say about climate change???

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Sometimes people accuse us of not being balanced.

After all, last year we helped lead the largest civil disobedience action in 30 years outside the Obama White House to protest the Keystone XL oil pipeline. A few months later we returned to DC to surround the President’s house with a ring of people 12,000 strong.

But so far, we haven't asked Mitt Romney any tough climate questions -- and since he’s not too far behind in the polls it's about time we did. His public comments seem to say that he doesn’t believe that humans are warming the planet -- he recently said that “we don’t know what’s causing climate change.” Paul Ryan, Romney's vice-presidential pick, isn't likely to be adding much to the ticket when it comes to climate change -- his budget plan would dramatically expand oil and gas drilling, gut the EPA, and kill government loans for clean energy.

If you go to Romney’s campaign website, which lists positions on issues from “Afghanistan” to “Values”, there's not even a mention of the biggest crisis facing the planet. July was the hottest month on record in the United States -- and that followed June, when we broke over 3,100 temperature records. Last week there was a new paper from James Hansen, NASA’s top climatologist, that solidly identifies climate change as the cause for recent drought, heat waves, and wildfires.

The stakes are too high to leave climate change out of the national conversation.

So we’re turning up the volume, and we’re starting by issuing a climate challenge to Mr. Romney. We're asking him to answer two simple questions about the greatest challenge humanity now faces:

1) Do you disagree with the scientific consensus that humans are heating the planet?

2) If not, what do you plan to do to fight the climate crisis?

When we get enough people to sign on, we’ll deliver it in an unforgettable way to the Romney HQ in Boston in September. We can’t say much more about the delivery just yet, but suffice to say it’ll get Mr. Romney’s attention.

Onwards,

Bill McKibben

http://act.350.org/sign/Mitt_and_climate

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Here is some of what he has to say. Click on the link and watch the video too!

“I think the EPA, acting in concert with the president, really doesn’t like oil, gas, coal, and nuclear,” Romney said in response to another question. “I really do believe that the EPA wants to get its hands on all of energy and be able to crush it to cause prices to go through the roof.” To applause, he concluded that “the EPA should not be regulating carbon dioxide.”

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2011/10/28/355736/romney-flips-to-denial-we-dont-know-whats-causing-climate-change/?mobile=nc

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AND HIS RUNNING MATE.......

The Wisconsin Republican has been an outspoken critic of President Barack Obama’s clean energy agenda, offering a fiscal plan earlier this year that neatly mirrors the GOP’s policy priorities. The plan would expand oil and gas drilling, limit the reach of the EPA and kill the Energy Department’s clean energy loan program.

The plan even earned a high-profile rebuke from Obama, something that many Republicans would wear as a badge of honor. “If some politicians had their way, there won’t be any more public investment in solar energy,” the president said during a March speech at a solar plant in Colorado.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0812/79644.html#ixzz23ZIYi800

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If you make the assumption that man is the cause of climate change due to increasing the CO2 in the atmosphere, the question is, what can we do about it? Even if the US shut down its entire economy (think of how many grannys would freeze to death in that situation), the Chineese and Indians probably would not be willing to do that, so now CO2 would still increase and everyone in the US would be living in poverty.

Just about any solution you can name to reduce CO2 emmisions is the equivalent of spitting in the ocean, it just won't make enough difference to be worth it. You would have to shut down the economy of the ENTIRE WORLD and I don't see that happening.

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Unfortunately, the knuckle-dragger is right.

CO2 was a patsy for the uncontrollable methane release by the planet during this geologic crisis we are in. All that methane turns into CO2, and no one can stop it.

It was a dumb idea to fixate everyone's efforts on CO2, but, what can anyone do about the geologic engine that really drives global warming?

Nothing!

Some decided it would be better if we all thought we were fighting global warming in a valiant struggle, like heroes!

Too bad we didn't instead start planning how to survive as a nation, instead of deflecting everyone's efforts while the powers that be saved themselves, and hoarded all the money.

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1) Do you disagree with the scientific consensus that humans are heating the planet?

Yes, I beleive they are a factor, they are not however the Cause.

And there is NO scientific concensus. Clearly you people don't read past the headings.

2) If not, what do you plan to do to fight the climate crisis?

Nothing, We have Real issues that are pressing and fixable. Unlike Global warming (yes I noticed you keep changing the name hoping people wont notice) Goebbels would smile.

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Quote Mauiman2:If you make the assumption that man is the cause of climate change due to increasing the CO2 in the atmosphere, the question is, what can we do about it? Even if the US shut down its entire economy (think of how many grannys would freeze to death in that situation), the Chineese and Indians probably would not be willing to do that, so now CO2 would still increase and everyone in the US would be living in poverty.

Just about any solution you can name to reduce CO2 emmisions is the equivalent of spitting in the ocean, it just won't make enough difference to be worth it. You would have to shut down the economy of the ENTIRE WORLD and I don't see that happening.

That's not true at all. We simply have to add to the economy of the entire world. We reintroduce what was from the beginning of human thought until the early 1950s the world's most productive industry, Cannabis Sativa. As modern agricultural technology becomes used in large-scale hemp farming, the rate of production will skyrocket. By sharing growing methods and technology with developing nations, we will begin to set those countries on a path to self-sustainability. China and India have been growing it for thousands of years before Christ. But with the US enforcing a global ban on Cannabis production through the UN and other methods, there isn't a global market for it so the industry is stifled. With the US legalizing Cannabis production again, the rest of the world will be free to do the same.

When the entire world is producing Cannabis again, the planet will have back a major contributor to its atmospheric balance and ecological well-being. Everyone tied to OPEC will have to take massive pay cuts, but that's a sacrifice that we're willing to make.

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Quote Mauiman2:If you make the assumption that man is the cause of climate change due to increasing the CO2 in the atmosphere, the question is, what can we do about it? Even if the US shut down its entire economy (think of how many grannys would freeze to death in that situation), the Chineese and Indians probably would not be willing to do that, so now CO2 would still increase and everyone in the US would be living in poverty.

Just about any solution you can name to reduce CO2 emmisions is the equivalent of spitting in the ocean, it just won't make enough difference to be worth it. You would have to shut down the economy of the ENTIRE WORLD and I don't see that happening.

That's not true at all. We simply have to add to the economy of the entire world. We reintroduce what was from the beginning of human thought until the early 1950s the world's most productive industry, Cannabis Sativa. As modern agricultural technology becomes used in large-scale hemp farming, the rate of production will skyrocket. By sharing growing methods and technology with developing nations, we will begin to set those countries on a path to self-sustainability. China and India have been growing it for thousands of years before Christ. But with the US enforcing a global ban on Cannabis production through the UN and other methods, there isn't a global market for it so the industry is stifled. With the US legalizing Cannabis production again, the rest of the world will be free to do the same.

When the entire world is producing Cannabis again, the planet will have back a major contributor to its atmospheric balance and ecological well-being. Everyone tied to OPEC will have to take massive pay cuts, but that's a sacrifice that we're willing to make.

Sorry I cannot agree with you, but your solution certainly would make everyone happier that's for sure!

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Romney says, "Are all my houses OK?" Will the dressage horse be Ok? He has the same concerns as all of us.

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Quote anonymous green:

Unfortunately, the knuckle-dragger is right.

CO2 was a patsy for the uncontrollable methane release by the planet during this geologic crisis we are in. All that methane turns into CO2, and no one can stop it.

It was a dumb idea to fixate everyone's efforts on CO2, but, what can anyone do about the geologic engine that really drives global warming?

Nothing!

Some decided it would be better if we all thought we were fighting global warming in a valiant struggle, like heroes!

Too bad we didn't instead start planning how to survive as a nation, instead of deflecting everyone's efforts while the powers that be saved themselves, and hoarded all the money.

Hey AG, you forgot to plug Thomas Gold's Deep Hot Biosphere in reference to this subject. It's on my list to read, but I've been avoiding it to avoid the bum trip it will lead to. Sometimes a head in the sand ain't all bad.

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Too bad he didn't think of his dog when he put him on the roof of his car for a very long trip! I don't think too many people (if any) would have done that.

Watching the video of Mitt in front of a dirty gang of coal workers was a good show. My guess is, when the camera's stopped rolling he began to dust off his stark white shirt and told is people to get him the heck out of that filthy place.

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Quote MrsBJLee:

1) Do you disagree with the scientific consensus that humans are heating the planet?

What consensus? yes, some, who have a political agenda make this claim, but many other actual scientists disagree. Of course they never played the part of a scientist in a hollywood production so they might not be a real expert on the subject.

I read somewhere that some believe carbon dioxide contributes to global warming, or so called climate change. Does that mean people should try to breath less, or discontinue strenuous exercise?

What caused the cyclic changes in the Earth's climate before SUV's existed, or before the industrial revolution?

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Nothing, We have Real issues that are pressing and fixable. Unlike Global warming (yes I noticed you keep changing the name hoping people wont notice) Goebbels would smile.

Back in the 70's and 80's it was global cooling. People with an agenda made a fortune writing books warning us of the looming ice age 20 years in the future. That was 30 and 40 years ago. Then we were told the oceans would not support life in 10 years if we didn't do something drastic right now. That was 25 years ago. Next they told us the earth was going to be morphed into a arid desert by the year 2010 because of the depleted O zone. That was 20 years ago.

Of course in November of 2008 someone told us "this is the moment the seas stopped rising", but today the same cataclysmic predictions exist.

The environmental alarmists continue to make idiotic predictions of doom and gloom. When their predictions do not materialize, which they never will, they shrug it off and move on to another prediction of doom and gloom. Just forget about these clowns and enjoy your life as you wish.

Tomorrow I think I'll cut down a tree so can have enough firewood this winter to fuel my fireplace.

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The way forward is to accept responsibility for our collective future and put in place solutions that keep the global temperature within range for life to thrive.This has to be monitored ,we do not have to use fossil fuels for everything and cut down the forests for our paper.

The Earth has the capacity to replenish itself it has been designed by life for life ,we as humans have to observe this and through our collective and individual decisions ,through the thousands of choices that are being made everyday understand that there are consequences to our actions.

We can change all the conditions on the planet just by changing our beliefs ,and then our behaviors .The main thing that we have to change is the tendency to seek short term gratification ,and be blind to long term consequences.

Thom talks a lot about this in his books ,Thomas. Jeffersons ideas were based on these understandings from his time spent with the iraquoise Indians ,who often only made decisions based on the 7th generation,we need to return to the past to build the future ,or from the wonderful film lets go back to the future for a sustainable world .

So many people are unable to see the destruction of life for there short term desires and pleasures ,let us acknowledge the long term damage that we are doing to ourselves and others.

Ours is another way not a better way.

Theglobalconversation.com

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What caused the cyclic changes in the Earth's climate before SUV's existed, or before the industrial revolution?

Geology.

Just like today.

Your arrogance defending SUVs is egregious; the way we use oil is a filthy, disreputable process which you apparently do not understand. In your glee to point out that everyone was fooled again, you miss the point entirely of course.

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