There Are Reports That The Notorious Manufacturing Company Foxconn...

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Known for abusing workers to produce Apple products in China and Taiwan, is looking to open up factories in the United States. At Foxconn factories overseas, workers endure 12-hour shifts in atrocious factory conditions and are forced to live in crowded dorms with fellow co-workers. Workers routinely fall ill from chemicals and 17 workers have killed themselves over the past five years. Nets are installed around the factory to catch people who jump out of the windows.

And now Foxconn may be considering coming to the United States where Americans are desperate for jobs. While we do have better labor standards than developing nations, Republicans are working on scrapping protections for workers and have declared everything from workplace safety laws to minimum wage laws unconstitutional.

If they get their way, then America will be the new home to sweatshop labor.

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How about the Communications Workers of America union take over the oversight, planning, and OWNERSHIP of this new Foxconn facility. Set the minimum wages at $75/hr plus benefits and full pension after 8 years of employment. All managers and executives paid at the same rate as the floor workers but without pensions. This would be a great opportunity to actually show how successfully Unions can create a effective business model.

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That would only work if robots can be unionized. Foxconn is not about to populate the manufacturing floor with people. Where do you think we are? China?

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Quote Redwing:

How about the Communications Workers of America union take over the oversight, planning, and OWNERSHIP of this new Foxconn facility. Set the minimum wages at $75/hr plus benefits and full pension after 8 years of employment. All managers and executives paid at the same rate as the floor workers but without pensions. This would be a great opportunity to actually show how successfully Unions can create a effective business model.

Can you imagine the buying power when common working people get $75 per hour? This would be a boon to small businesses everywhere when people walk in their doors with some disposable income and demand something for it. Redwing, I think you've just stumbled onto the solution of our economic crisis. Well done.

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What happens when robots become so intelligent that they form their own unions?

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Quote Redwing:

How about the Communications Workers of America union take over the oversight, planning, and OWNERSHIP of this new Foxconn facility. ... All managers and executives paid at the same rate as the floor workers...... This would be a great opportunity to actually show how successfully Unions can create a effective business model.

You are describing a cooperative or a worker self directed enterprise, which has already proven to be a successful business model. Worker self directed enterprises (WSDE) utilizing democracy in the workplace, are the key to changing our economic system and doing away with the power of the plutocracy.

Insightful of you Redwind to recognize the potential of this idea!!!

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Jan you forgot your LOL's

If the model is correct, why don't the unions, except Govt. Motors which Obama gave them, sprout some balls, and buy the companies they work for, and put this perfect model in operation? Maybe because they would have some RISK involved, and these gutless union bosses won't put their money where their mouth is?

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Jan you forgot your LOL's

If the model is correct, why don't the unions, except Govt. Motors which Obama gave them, sprout some balls, and buy the companies they work for, and put this perfect model in operation? Maybe because they would have some RISK involved, and these gutless union bosses won't put their money where their mouth is?

LOL....LOL.... does that make you feel better?

I said that what you suggest is a viable economic model.

I have no idea why the union members can't come up with billions of dollars to buy out GM or any of the auto industry.

I doubt very seriously it has anything to do with any fear of RISK as you suggest.

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Bad answer. There are hundreds of businesses that are on the brink of closing due to union contracts. BUY ONE OF THOSE from the owners who are more than willing to sell rather than close, and show us all how successful they become when the likes of Leo or James are at the helm. RISK IS what it is all about.

LOL, LOL

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LOL..... you are so funny.

I am only discussing the already successful model. I don't really care about your beef with unions which is ridiculous at best.

This was what I originally said:

You are describing a cooperative or a worker self directed enterprise, which has already proven to be a successful business model. Worker self directed enterprises (WSDE) utilizing democracy in the workplace, are the key to changing our economic system and doing away with the power of the plutocracy.

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If they get their way, then America will be the new home to sweatshop labor.

The US is already the home to sweatshop labor... they just export the slavery these days. Out of site, out of mind. Congressional investigatory expeditions made such slavery in US protectorates "legal." Combined with the increasing use of free prison labor... it's a win win for US and transantional corporations. Profits before people... every time.....

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Quote Thom Hartmann Administrator:If they get their way, then America will be the new home to sweatshop labor.
The US is already the home to sweatshop labor... they just export the slavery these days. Out of site, out of mind. Congressional investigatory expeditions made such slavery in US protectorates "legal."
I believe that was finally outlawed, at least in Saipan. Of course we all remember this:

What did GOP leader Tom Delay say to the oligarchs who controlled a Saipan sweatshop that had workers that were being paid half the minimum wage, and forced to live in squalid shacks without plumbing, behind barbed wire, working 12 hours a day sometimes 7 days a week, where women workers were alleged to have been forced to have abortions?

Tom Delay said:

“You are a shining light for what is happening to the Republican Party, and you represent everything that is good about what we are trying to do in America…”

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