http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/274515-police-investiga...
"A petition to arrest Gregory for possession of the high-capacity rifle magazine had nearly 6,000 signatures on Tuesday, needing another 19,000 by Jan. 22 to provoke an official White House response."
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Is this the same David Gregory that mocked the NRA on NBC for suggesting that schools have an armed security guard on the premises and forgot to mention that the school that he sends his kids to has an eleven person security staff? The classic lefty "do as I say, not as I do" garbage.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/gregory-mocks-lapierre-proposing-arm...
If the left can use Sandy Hook to bash the NRA, to make it unpalatable to the American public, they will. That's why the execrable Lawrence O'Donnell of MSNBC spouted that the NRA had "blood on its hands" despite any evidence to support that proposition. That's why Piers Morgan of CNN labeled NRA head Wayne LaPierre "dim-witted" and "dangerous" for suggesting that schools ought to have armed police, but said nothing when Los Angeles Police Department Chief Charlie Beck said the same thing. David Gregory of NBC was only too happy to bash LaPierre over that proposed policy, but sends his kids to a school with 11 armed security guards. Gregory is a leftist douche-bag. They are all hypocrits.
I would be willing to have an armed guard(s) in the schools if that individual or individuals were highly trained and drilled, had at least 4 years of service in the military or police, and a degree in criminology or the equivalent. Also, that person or persons must be highly accountable to rules and regulations. I say this because I would like only someone who is extremely competent to be carrying a gun in the schools and acting as a gaurd with students around.
I would be willing to have an armed guard(s) in the schools if that individual or individuals were highly trained and drilled, had at least 4 years of service in the military or police, and a degree in criminology or the equivalent. Also, that person or persons must be highly accountable to rules and regulations. I say this because I would like only someone who is extremely competent to be carrying a gun in the schools and acting as a guard with students around.
I have to chuckle that they have to "investigate" this. Should only take 5 minutes.
Pierpont,
You make a point in saying that if mass shooters wanted easy targets, they'll just choose targets with no guards or that has otherwise insufficient security. What I was trying to say is that if I were to support an armed gaurd in the schools, I would like them to be extremely competent and trained. I would prefer it if there was no armed gaurd, but if I didn't have a choice, that is what I would like.
Pierpont,
You make a point in saying that if mass shooters wanted easy targets, they'll just choose targets with no guards or that has otherwise insufficient security. What I was trying to say is that if I were to support an armed gaurd in the schools, I would like them to be extremely competent and trained. I would prefer it if there was no armed gaurd, but if I didn't have a choice, that is what I would like.
According to Politico, et al, NBC had asked permission to display the magazine on Meet the Press. Permission was denied by the DC police department. It sounds like he intentionally broke the law. To what purpose?
more on this story:
Politicians and news anchors have long used guns as props. In 1993, then-Maryland Gov. William Donald Schaefer (D), attempting to show the dangerous nature of firearms he wanted to ban, pointed a unloaded pistol at an Associated Press reporter during a news conference. The gun was provided by the Maryland State Police. Schaefer was not charged with a crime.
Police: NBC asked to use high-capacity clip
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So, who replaces David Gregory if this incident gets blown out of proportion, too ?
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/12/dc-cops-investigating-wheth...
"But ABC News has learned from an official at the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives that NBC had reached out to the federal agency on Friday for advice before displaying the weaponry.
According to the ATF official, the agency noted that ATF doesn’t enforce D.C. gun laws, but agreed to put the question to a couple of Washington police officers who’ve worked with the agency in the past.
The D.C. officers advised the ATF spokesman that Gregory could display the magazine, provided it was empty, the source said.
That turned out to be bad advice, as conservative media and gun rights activists were first to note. The ATF official describes this as a “misunderstanding,” and says he hopes DC police will not bring charges."
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/274515-police-investiga...
"A petition to arrest Gregory for possession of the high-capacity rifle magazine had nearly 6,000 signatures on Tuesday, needing another 19,000 by Jan. 22 to provoke an official White House response."
They should definitely arrest Gregory - for pretending to be a journalist.
Police: NBC asked to use high-capacity clip 'er magazine
So, who replaces David Gregory if this incident gets blown out of proportion, too ?
Susan Rice or Hillary Clinton, if her concussion doesn't prohibit her from ever speaking again.
The real subject at hand here is the magazine size. I for one would like to see magazine sizes limited just for the reason that it could, emphasize on could, make a difference in the life or death of some people. Having said that I will be the first one to admit that limiting the size of a legal magazine will make little to no difference in a case such as the one at the school. If you can't get your hands on a large capacity magazine, (which is almost impossible to enforce) then somebody who has decided to do a mass killing is going to carry multiple low capacity magazines anyway. You can fit many in your pockets. It only takes seconds to change magazines even among amateurs. This is a good issue for spur of the moment, going postal moments but a non issue when it comes to thought out gun crimes.
Wrong. Jared Laugtner was taken down by a geriatric Grandmother while reloading. A smaller magazine would have saved lives.
I would be willing to have an armed guard(s) in the schools if that individual or individuals were highly trained and drilled, had at least 4 years of service in the military or police, and a degree in criminology or the equivalent. Also, that person or persons must be highly accountable to rules and regulations. I say this because I would like only someone who is extremely competent to be carrying a gun in the schools and acting as a gaurd with students around.
Schools are already cash strapped. Will the NRA be paying for the program they are recommending?
I'd bet if they are willing, few school districts would balk at the plan. Many schools already have police officer type people on premises -- making that universal isn't that radical except for the funding part -- which is a very real issue for alot of places.
BUT I don't see the plan as having a prayer of preventing future shootings. Do you think that the guy who easily shot 6 year olds would think twice about adding a cop to his list of victims? Easy to sneak up on a cop again once everyone goes back into complacency.
Police: NBC asked to use high-capacity clip 'er magazine
So, who replaces David Gregory if this incident gets blown out of proportion, too ?
Susan Rice or Hillary Clinton, if her concussion doesn't prohibit her from ever speaking again.
You insensitive ass ... how do you feel about your comments NOW ???!!!
Hillary Clinton's blood clot treatment and the need for privacy
It was not even a bit funny then, even less now. The only person you owe an apology to is yourself!
"Dirty Harry" dialogue if it were made today:
Harry Callahan: I know what you're thinking. "Did he fire thirty shots or only twenty nine?" Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement I kind of lost track myself. ... you've got to ask yourself one question: Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya, punk?
Dirty Harry (1971) - Memorable quotes
Pierpont,
You make a point in saying that if mass shooters wanted easy targets, they'll just choose targets with no gaurds or that has otherwise insufficient security. What I was trying to say is that if I were to support an armed guard in the schools, I would like them to be extremely competent and trained. I would prefer it if there was no armed gaurd, but if I didn't have a choice, that is what I would like.
My only point was to begin considering such proposals is a slippery slope to accepting the dystopian Gun Nut world view. Questioning that view might be a more productive place to start.
I agree with Pierpont.
Columbine had an armed guard on duty, so, in the RW world logic, therefore nobody died ?
Not exactly!
Columbine Shows Why NRA's "School Shield" Likely Wouldn't Work
I think it is terrrible news for America. She will surely never be able to run for president with that potential for disaster lodged in her head. I know you would agree the stress of running for that office would not be the correct thing for her to do given the circumstances.
Hillary was my 3rd choice during the primaries in 2008, after my first two choices (Bill Richardson and Joe Biden) faded one after the other. A few weeks later Obama made his "Speech on Race" in Philadelphia on March 18, 2008 He had my vote after that.
I hope she chooses health and family over any further public service.
Art: I am having a little trouble understanding your proclamation.
Are you saying you want Hillary to undergo the documented stress that a president goes through and have her risk her life, not to mention the entire country, knowing full well that her physical and mental well being is in danger to a far greater extent than someone without her proven health problem? Do you really think that little of her? If I remember correctly, the Thomheads were busy tearing down Christie due to the fact his weight would leave him prone to diabetes and heart attacks. I am sure that issue will be brought up any day now by our favorite trolls.
As for the vice president backup plan, very few people ever consider the fact that individual might have to take over the office. Biden, Dan Quayle, Hubert Humphrey, give me a break. You can't be serious. My guess is, if 100 random people were asked, 25% could not even name the current vice president. Jay Leno and David Letterman prove that weekly on their TV shows. Besides, who ever heard of a "Bidenphone" anyway.
I don't know what's so hard to understand. I don't know Hillary personally, and I figure she is infinitely the better person to be assessing her health potential along with the help of the expertise of the best licensed, experienced health care professionals she has access to. Certainly not my place to be making those decisions.
I don't remember hearing Thom's fans expressing fears over Christie's health potential either, although I do remember hearing some journalists asking people if this should be a concern to voters. Christie is a big boy (duh) and well able to make those decisions for himself.
Hope this helps to clear up your confusion.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jan/4/if-youre-not-david-gregory/
"The Washington Metropolitan Police Department (MPD) inquiry into whether NBC’s David Gregory possession on national TV of an illegal 30-round “high-capacity” magazine has been ongoing for three weeks. Meanwhile, U.S. Army veteran James Brinkley is still grappling with the fallout from his arrest last year on the same charge."
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Speaking of confusion ...
I find it odd that I agree more with Redwing on this issue than Art !
I have not gotten around to buying a new calendar yet, but today just can't be April fools day! You two didn't exchange IDs today, did you?
But seriously, folks ...this is not easy to say. With Hillary deciding to leave her current position after four years, possibly due to the physical strain of the travel the job requires, I wonder how she would hold up under the pressure at the WH. If she did run and win, could we have a repeat of the Woodrow Wilson administration, with the spouse taking over if Hillary became incapacitated? "The Big Dawg" would be a better stand-in than Ellen Wilson was ... I think he is better at #Arithmetic than Ellen.
Joe Biden's son having a stroke at age 41 makes me wonder about the chance of Joe himself having one. Is there a family history of strokes in the Biden family other than Beau?
Over the years there have been sick jokes about presidential nominees after JFK choosing a perceived weak running mate as some sort of insurance policy against bullets ... walking / talking kevlar, if you will. Agnew, Quayle, and Palin, for example were thought by some to not have been chosen because they would be helpful at winning in November, or because they could do an effective job as president themselves if called on. That was back in the days when a domestic "terrorist" with a gun was thought to be the biggest assassination threat to the president.
The perceived independence (or courage) of Chris Christie since Sandy has surprised many, especially democrats. I would not be at all surprised if he left the republican party after all this, with the way he feels those representing the republican party in DC have left him and the people of his state down. He might be a little less supportive of the TEApublicans that were the leading voices against the Sandy aid, and look elsewhere for help.
Christies weight bothers me, for his health's sake, knowing the health risks that accompany it. There are type 1 and type 2 Diabetes cases in my family. It's an ugly illness to deal with, and even uglier if you don't keep it under control, or if you are not even aware that you have it.
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