Taking down the drug lords?

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I thought we were taking down the drug lords dwr

Mexico’s President Alters Tactics Against Drug Crimes

Mexico’s new attorney general says there are now 60 to 80 drug cartels operating in the country, a sharp rise from the 10 that existed when outgoing President Calderon took office in 2006. President Enrique Pena Nieto says he wants to go after crime associated with drug trafficking instead of taking down crime bosses.

You mean… we spent all that effort and all those lives taking down the cartels and now, instead of 10 of them, there are 60-80 of them? What a surprise!!!


We could have told people that would happen. In fact, we did, to anyone who would listen.

Of course, there are those who simply don’t want to listen because they don’t care — the drug war is their game regardless of the outcome.

But what bothers me is those who only seem to be able to think in simplistic terms of the evil drug lords as a finite closed group that can be dismantled, instead of understanding the dynamics of either fueling or starving an environment that recruits, develops, and encourages violent criminal activity.

(By the way, it isn’t just in the drug war that this basic fault predominates — it’s also the foundation for much of the war on terror.)

The drug war is good for business dwr

Sales of armored cars soars 10% in Mexico as drug wars escalate

Sales of armored cars in Mexico were up 10 percent in 2012 from the previous year, according to the Mexican Automotive Armour Association.

Of a total of 3102 purchases of armored vehicles, 70 percent were made by the private sector and the rest by government, said MAAA president, Fernando Echeverri, according to Fox New Latino


The most popular armored vehicles, according to Mexico’s MAAA, were Suburban, Grand Cherokee and Tahoe SUVs

"When a well-packaged web of lies
has been sold to the masses over generations,
the truth will seem utterly preposterous
and its speaker a raving lunatic."
- Dresden James

Losing the Mexican Drug War may be better than winning...

The Free Mexican Air Force
* Mexico Decriminalizes Small Amounts of Drugs
* Mexico legal-drug bill condemned
* U.S. Cautious on Mexico Drug Measure

Ganjawar Puppets Cave... again
* Mexico President Seeks Review of Drug Law
* Threats From USA Force Mexico to Drop Decrim Plans

Canada's Supremes Cower Under DEAth Threats
Loosen Pot Laws and Face Tighter Border U.S. Warns!
Drug Czar Talks About Tightening at Border
Relaxed Pot Laws May Affect Border
Canadian Pot Legislation Could Snarl Border
Danger On Our Northern Border
Pot Bill Could Bog Down Border
U.S. Warns Pot Plan To Clog Border

As sir Hilary said...

QUESTION: In Mexico, there are those who propose not keeping going with this battle and legalize drug trafficking and consumption. What is your opinion?
SECRETARY CLINTON: I don’t think that will work. I mean, I hear the same debate. I hear it in my country. It is not likely to work. There is just too much money in it,

Shame on the Drug Worrier Profiteers

DdC's picture
Mar. 22, 2012 1:39 am


You knock it out of the park 99.9% of the time!

Hall of fame stats.

Good stuff. Keep it up!

Fletcher Christian's picture
Fletcher Christian
Feb. 15, 2012 12:49 pm

These drug cartels couldnt exist at the level they do without the help of the international Bankster laundering the drug money and making it fungible.

We can't get rid of the drug cartels when its in the Bankstrs interest and one of their sociopatic profit making schemes.

Without the laundering of the drug monies by the criminal Banksters these cartels would be multiple times smaller and less effective than they are. They wouldnt have the huge amounts of cash to buy off the military etc.

Scappoose's picture
Mar. 30, 2012 7:49 am

Drug War Bailing Out Banksters

"For years and years, information and evidence being collected by the counterintelligence operations of certain U.S. intelligence and law enforcement agencies has been prevented from being transferred to criminal and narcotics divisions, and from being shared with the Drug Enforcement Agency and others with prosecutorial power. Those with direct knowledge have been prevented from making this information available and public by various gag orders and invocation of the State Secrets Privilege. Why?"
~ Sibel Edmonds

Lobbyists War Over Billions in Antidrug Aid

The vast majority of remaining prohibitionists profit on the drug war,
... and that is their only motive.

Trillion spent is a Trillion earned.
GOP Mogul Behind Drug Rehab 'Torture' Centers
Money Grubbing Dung Worriers
Forfeiture $quads

Thanks Fletcher, if we don't do it, it won't get done...

Come on Wall Street, don't be slow,
Why man, this is war au-go-go
There's plenty good money to be made
By supplying the DEA with the tools of its trade,
But just hope and pray that if they drop the bomb,
They drop it on the Mexicans.

And it's one, two, three,
What are we fighting for ?
Don't ask me, I don't give a damn,
Next stop is Afghanistan.
And it's five, six, seven,
Open up the pearly gates,
Well there ain't no time to wonder why
Whoopee! we're all gonna die.
~ Country Joe and the Fishish

DdC's picture
Mar. 22, 2012 1:39 am

Mexico Considers Marijuana Legalization
By Richard Fausset, Los Angeles Times

Mexico City -- Forgive the Mexicans for trying to get this straight: So now the United States, which has spent decades battling Mexican marijuana, is on a legalization bender? The same United States that long viewed cannabis as a menace, funding crop-poisoning programs, tearing up auto bodies at the border, and deploying sniffer dogs, fiber-optic scopes and backscatter X-ray machines to detect the lowly weed?

The success of legalization initiatives in Colorado and Washington in November has sparked a new conversation in a nation that is one of the world's top marijuana growers: Should Mexico, which has suffered mightily in its war against the deadly drug cartels, follow the Western states' lead? Read More...

US, Few Others Object to Bolivia UN Coca-Chewing Bid
Four Western countries—the US, Britain, Italy, and Sweden—have formally objected to Bolivia's rejoining the 1961 UN Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs with a reservation that allows for the traditional habit of coca leaf chewing, the Transnational Institute reported Friday. The move is the latest twist in the Latin American nation's effort to remove the international proscription on the ancestral habit. continued

Our legacy in Liberia dwr
Liberia: Govt Faces Huge Task Against Marijuana Farmers
We have exported our drug war, our DEA, our propaganda, and our excuses for authoritarianism and the limiting of human rights to the rest of the world.

When we finally break and subdue this prohibition beast here in the United States, we will still have a moral obligation to undue the damage our drug war has caused abroad.

Exporting DEAmocracy
Freak Trade * Free Raids
Collaterally Damaged Guatemala

Naloxone Cheap Way to Prevent Drug OD Deaths, Study Finds
Drug overdose deaths are now the leading cause of accidental death in the US, surpassing automobile accidents, but a new study suggests that distributing naloxone to opioid drug users could reduce the death toll in a cost-effective manner. The study was published this week in the Annals of Internal Medicine.

Outrage: Texas Women Cavity Searched by Police Over Alleged Marijuana Smell

Jan 3 2013 Montana Medical Marijuana Grower
Will Receive a Minimum Sentence of Five Years
Chris Williams, a medical marijuana grower from Montana, faces at least five years in federal prison after being caught up in a March 2011 federal raid on 26 dispensaries throughout the state. continued

Heston died, NRA's Mandatory Minimum Didn't

Guns and drugs dwr
Ilya Somin, at Volokh Conspiracy, nicely expands on Dan Kahan’s notion that gun violence could be reduced by legalizing drugs.

DdC's picture
Mar. 22, 2012 1:39 am

"Our Path Doesn't Depend on Media Coverage"
The Zapatistas and Their Coming Strategy
Together with Mexico's Original Peoples
By Subcomandante Insurgente Marcos
From the Mountains of the Mexican Southeast

It’s the sound of their world ending. It’s that of ours resurging.
Communique from the Zapatista Army of National Liberation
By Subcomandante Insurgente Marcos
Translation by Narco News

By Bill Conroy

Banks Are "Where the Money Is" In The Drug War
Big Lenders Face Few Hard Consequences for Violating Anti-Money Laundering Laws

Mexico’s New President Set to Empower a “Devil’s Cartel”
CIA Operative Claims Corrupt Colombian Law Enforcer Now Advising Peña Nieto Is Sign Of That Danger Ahead

I Survived A Journey Into the Dark Heart of the Drug War
The School of Authentic Jo Taught Me How to Do It
School of Authentic Journalism, Class of 2004

DdC's picture
Mar. 22, 2012 1:39 am
These drug cartels couldnt exist at the level they do without the help of the international Bankster laundering the drug money and making it fungible.

We can't get rid of the drug cartels when its in the Bankstrs interest and one of their sociopatic profit making schemes.

Without the laundering of the drug monies by the criminal Banksters these cartels would be multiple times smaller and less effective than they are. They wouldnt have the huge amounts of cash to buy off the military etc.

It's a theory - certainly not one that I would take to the bank, but it seems rational. Good job, Scapoose! Now, perhaps you can dig up some real evidence that would help us out. Banking regulations are just barely stiff enough to enable the detection of large deposits of cash ($100k+). What I've heard is that the cartels have enormous problems figuring out what to do with their mountains of cash. Which banksters should we be looking at?

Art's picture
Jul. 31, 2007 4:01 pm

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