The Obama Administration says it has the right to kill you

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That's the shorter version of an official letter Attorney General Eric Holder sent to Senator Rand Paul this week. The letter came as a response to Sen. Paul, who wanted the Administration's position on using drone strikes against U.S. Citizens on American soil. Last month, Rand Paul threatened to filibuster Obama's pick for CIA director, John Brennan, if he did not receive an answer on the drones question.

According to the letter, Eric Holder says the Administration rejects “the use of military force” where law-enforcement authorities are already present, but it's possible “to imagine an extraordinary circumstance” in which the President could use drones against citizens right here at home.

So, in the past two months, we've gotten the so-called legal reasoning for drone strikes in foreign countries, and the Administration's justification for taking out American citizens overseas. Now Eric Holder says it's “appropriate under the Constitution” for Obama to use drones within our borders. I guess the only question left is what “extraordinary circumstance” will the President use to justify the first in-country drone strike when it happens.

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If the president can look at the constitution with rose color glasses, what`s stopping the "people" from using rose color glasses too?? What happen's when the constitution is "useless"??

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Quote Thom Hartmann Administrator:

I guess the only question left is what “extraordinary circumstance” will the President use to justify the first in-country drone strike when it happens.

As the letter so clearly states the "extraordinary circumstances" would be like what happened on December 7, 1941, and on September 11, 2001.

Please read the entire letter

Are you saying that you would not want the President to "authorize the military to use lethal force within the territory of the United States" if we were under attack by a hostile nation?

Are you saying that you would not want the President to "authorize the military to use lethal force within the territory of the United States" if there were air craft heading for skyscrapers in New York City and that was the ony way to stop the deaths of thousands of Americans?

Aren't you jumping to conclusions?

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Rand Paul and the others in the filibuster were saying they weren't opposed to going to a vote on the appointment of Brennan, but they wanted a written statement, either from Obama himself, or from Holder on behalf of Obama, saying that he acknowledges that he does not have the Constitutional right to be judge, jury and executioner of American Non-Combatants on American soil.

John Conyers had said earlier in the day that it's not just about Americans or our soil, but the right of the US President to kill anyone anywhere without due process or in a war.

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Your recent characterization of the judicial branch of government needs some refinement. The role of the judicial branch is not primarily to determine the appropriate punishments for crimes committed or laws broken. The primary role of the Judiciary, embodied in the Supreme Court, and in accordance with the underlying checks and balances the founding fathers designed for the Federal Governemnt, is to determine the constitutionality of the laws established by the legislative branch. Its primary responsibility is to interpret the Constitution. All else in the judicial system flows from that primary role. Then, the court system presides over the process of adjudicating the law. The courts themselves, however, do not determine the punishments, except for very small misdemeanors. But they do preside over the process, in an effort to ensure that ultimately the rights and responsibilities embodied in the Constitution are in balance.

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You hit the nail right on the head, "Aren't you jumping to conclusions?" We the people need to be sure and not take the word of people who lie in the past and still do and will continue in the future. "Extraordinary circumstances", who was it, Cheney that said "we can create "reality"? 9/11 could have been prevented, was that created "reality"??? Why is a letter needed, what happen to the constitution? Criminals have no need for laws, only when it allow for crimes. Obama is in the war machine bubble and he know it, we don`t "bust" that bubble we deserve all the "chickens coming home to roost".

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Quote Herb Stetzenmeyer:Your recent characterization of the judicial branch of government needs some refinement.

Antonin Scalia's recent words have made some people characterize the U.S. Supreme Court as the new U.S. royalty—on their thrones for life and, apparently, trying to bring back Jim Crow and slavery.

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Yahoo news....... WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Attorney General Eric Holder said on Thursday that President Barack Obama would not have the authority to order a drone to kill an American citizen on U.S. soil who was "not engaged in combat."

In a two-sentence letter to Kentucky Republican Senator Rand Paul, Holder said he had heard Paul wanted to know if the president could use a drone to kill an American outside of an emergency situation.

"The answer to that question is no," Holder wrote.

If you could have just waited another few hours...... and NOT jumped to conclusions.

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Well... if you're an American living in or visiting the Middle East... or virtually anywhere for that matter... or an innocent child gathering wood or playing outside, or attending a wedding, or rescuing people who have been blown to smithereens while they were attending a wedding... the Nobel Peace Laureate Democratic president has already shown that he belives he has the right to kill (murder) them...

At the rate civil liberties are being destroyed in the US... only a matter of time for such killings (murders) to take place there...

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