Do you think Paul Ryan is a Fascist?

YES! - The Ryan Budget will reduce America to neo-feudalism.
90%
NO! - He is merely trying to repeal The New Deal & privatize the commons.
10%

14 comments

Eliz77
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I think people tend to

I think people tend to confuse fascism and nazism. As mentioned before, fascism is corporate governance, and more and more we have that already. Ryan is in total agreement for the wealthy and corporations to be in power. He is not a Nazi that I am aware of. Nazis are members of the German political power in the 30's and 40's that were very oppressive and violent in their drive for power.

I see signs of nasism developing as we see the militarization of our civilian law enforcement. Nazism may be innate in fascist governments because corporations have no soul and their ethic is profit at all costs with no compunction against torture, murder, and theft in the cause of power and profit.

It seems to me our government in general has become more and more fascist since Regan, no matter what party was in the White House. While I am sorry to see the Obama administration continuing that trend, the Romney/Ryan administration would be even worse. It is up to us to push more citizen sane participation in government, and that won't be easy.

forestlady11
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America is gone...no normal

America is gone...no normal common sense law enforcement anywhere, doing anything to turn this police state around, and put the crimminals where there belong, jail...the dirth ones! 

unfangus
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This is a lousy question and

This is a lousy question and it is compounded by the 2 simplistic inadequate answers supplied to complete it.

Ryan is not a ''Fascist'', that is dog-whistle politics at it's worst-a superficial smear that demeans those who have fought and continue to fight very real totalitarian regimes at the cost of thier lives.

Would the policies Ryan promote result in Fascism if enacted? No,just a deeper plutocratic ownership of the Oligarchy.The real threat of Fascism (complete corpoate integration and control of government) is more likely if the current political stalemate continues to prevent institutions from meeting the real needs of people and meltdown ensues-then citizens will trade their soverenty and their freedom for a biscuit.

The present form of American government is arguably an oligarchy controled by plutocrats so the distinction of ''Neo -Fuedalism'' is a semantic exercise of little value since in essence,it already exists.As to ''merely'' rolling back the protections of the New Deal and privatizing the Commons,That is game set and match,and the ultimate goal of the power hungry elite since day one !

telliottmbamsc
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Walker, Ryan, Hovde, Duffy,

Walker, Ryan, Hovde, Duffy, Johnson, Doyle, Fitzgeralds, etc….where does Wisconsin come up with it's seemingly endless supply of assholes?

 

A thought: Offers of real money and big power have the biggest influence on people who otherwise don’t have ready access to them due to their background or geographic location.  So special interest focus on hopeless craven degenerates found in out of the way places in the fly over – Wisconsin.   These ambitions of these craven degenerates manifests in a callus disregard for the effects of what they are asked to do their own People.  And special interest’s know Washington is “too busy” to care because the area’s relatively small voice in national politics. 

washnwmn
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He probably doesn't believe

He probably doesn't believe he's a fascist and probably none of them do. From what I've come to understand about these rightwingers,  they are generally way too ignorant to figure it out.  All they know is someone is stuffing their pockets and they answer to that, forgetting the purpose of being elected is to serve the people/country.  So far, history has shown that not a lot of fascists stay in power for long.  And looking at the GOP budget plan they are sealing their own fate.  When everyone has nothing....the government will have nothing to work with.  When no one can afford to do more than survive and are living in survival mode, big business will fall as well.  BUT this is what I mean about ignorance: short-sightedness, and narrow-mindedness leading to shooting themselves in the foot over and over again.

Sooner08
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He's as close as it gets.

He's as close as it gets. Below is my previous post on FB.

Now is the time to put aside being a republican or a democrat. But however you choose to vote I urge you to at least read the below quote from the person that most inspired Congressman Ryan. We are a strong people that should not be swayed by petty issues such as women’s rights, gun control, religion, race, or intolerance for those that are less fortunate. We as republicans and democrats must stand up and be heard regardless of what others may think. I am more than just dirt under someone’s boot, I’m a veteran, a father, a husband, a son, a grandfather and I’m an American. Ayn Rand, is Paul Ryan's admitted inspiration.
Paul Ryan, Ayn Rand Fan, Brings Writer's Philosophy To Presidential Stage
"“What are your masses but mud to be ground underfoot, fuel to be burned for those who deserve it? What is the people but millions of puny, shrivelled, helpless souls that have no thoughts of their own, no dreams of their own, no will of their own, who eat and sleep and chew helplessly the words others put into their mildewed brains?…I know no worse injustice than justice for all.” – Ayn Rand, first edition of the semi-autobiographical novel, We The Living"

chiefintn
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I like your comment about

I like your comment about balancing the budget.  Neither side proposes a plan to end the crippling debt.  And, nobody on the left or right can answer how much debt is enough?  We need a 'Stop Digging' party to pressure our elected officials to end borrowing and live within their means.

chiefintn
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Wow, all of them?  That

Wow, all of them?  That statement is ludicrous and cannot be defended.  The republicans and democrats are both committed to control and neither side will relinquish it for the good of the country.

Vegasman56
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If you take a look at a

If you take a look at a profile of a sociopath you will find that majority of the Republicans in Congress, in both houses the Senate and House of Representatives, and the candidates for president and vice president’s in the Republican Party their concept’s ideas and personalities will line up and match a sociopath.

Vegasman56
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 Fascists seek to organize a

 Fascists seek to organize a nation on corporatist  perspectives, values, and systems such as the political system and the economy.

This is where the new radical Republicans want to take this country and have more trickle up economics for the 1%. Spreading the wealth up is Mitt Romney/Paul Ryan’s plan in other words fascism.  

They are takers, will not give anything back.  They will kick the working family down.  They are Don Quixote and Sancho Panza

Ayn Rand she was also the progenitor of a sweeping “moral philosophy” that justifies the privilege of the wealthy and demonizes not only the slothful, undeserving poor but the lackluster middle-classes as well. Paul Ryan’s mentor

 

 

jamvaru
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kind of like how anything not

kind of like how anything not SPECIFICALLY labeled as ORGANIC or at least NON-GMO really IS GMO
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Republicans are FACIST unless they CLEARLY state otherwise, such as calling for increase in taxes on the rich

if they don't come out as being FOR MORE TAXES for the RICH, they are WITH them; they ARE the enemy

'the enemy' is the translation of the word SATAN, so they are TOOLS of the DEVIL, the embodiment of pure EVIL

in one sense you have to PITY them, for they are DAMNED, though there is HOPE for anyone to CHANGE 

sad part is, unless you already get this, it goes right through you

which is why it is important to end on a positive note

Jesus is LOVE

Rollingdog
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He meets every definition of

He meets every definition of a fascist, at what point will someone come out and simply state it as a fact?

jazzyjoy
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Total agreement.

Total agreement.

stealthmexican
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By Mussolini's definition,

By Mussolini's definition, and by any sane person's definition, he is. His budget will destroy Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid, continue the escalation of militarism and offshoring of American jobs, and not come close to balancing a budget for almost 30 years. Not a deficit hawk, not anyone who's fiscally responsible, Ryan is a corporatist professional politician pushing for an America-destroying agenda.

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