My disenchantment, and perhaps that of many other liberals, began long before Obama's re-electioneering. Guantanamo, the escalation of the war in Afghanistan, increased surveillance of activists, capitulation to Israel's sordid policies (and wanton killing), escalation of drone attacks and consequent civilian deaths (far more than Bush ever dreamed of), expansion rather than repeal of the Patriot Act, the failure to fight for a single payer health care system, the claimed right to target and kill U.S. citizens at the government's whim, and on and on.

Re-election of Obama would be nothing short of a disaster for the nation (and for the world). Surely real - not phony - liberals exist who would represent all the people and who would fight not only for the middle class but also for the neediest, the poor and the unemployed of the nation. Rather than vote for Obama I would prefer not to vote at all or, if I get any angrier, to vote for the Republican candidate just to see how long it would take for the rich to totally destroy what faint semblance of democracy yet remains.

After all, Obama is a Republican posing as a Democrat. Why not vote for someone who doesn't lie about party affiliation? Better a Republican who openly claims Republican affiliation that a spineless fraud.

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DdC's picture
DdC 2 years 23 weeks ago
#1

After all, Obama is a Republican posing as a Democrat. Why not vote for someone who doesn't lie about party affiliation? Better a Republican who openly claims Republican affiliation that a spineless fraud.

Don't vote for Obama because he's really an undercover republican low life scum so it would be better to vote for the real low life scum causing all the problems and Obama's cowardice defending us from GOPerverted fascism?. Yea I got a bridge for sale, just driven over once a week by a little old lady on her way to church. I will probably vote Nader. But a lesser evil is still less evil. So are you a coward for lying about GOPerverts? We've had 50 years of Nixon Boosh bastardizing the Constitution and Terrorizing American workers, women and even kids they send to die over lies they tell to sell war paraphernalia. Scum too great to blame on one democrat. GOPerverts lie and then weasel out of it just like wonderdud Kyl. This is what you call cowardice...

90 percent of Planned Parenthood services are abortions.
~ Sen. Jon Kyl (R-Ariz.)

No federal funding goes to abortions.
97 percent of Planned Parenthood's services are not abortions
~ Cecile Richards, Planned Parenthood president

❝It Was Not Intended To Be A Factual Statement❞
~ Kyl Walks Back Planned Parenthood Claim

Strong corporate profits amid weak economy? = Outsourcing!

Neocon Teabogs Really Are "Bloodlusting Terrorists"
How Neo-Cons, Neo-Nazis And Neo-McVeighs
Crashed Ron Paul’s Tea Party
The Tea Party, which started off as a Libertarian protest against taxes and government, has turned into a right wing, corporate sponsored, racist hate-fest. Three groups have joined the Libertarian founders of the Tea Party movement to add money, racism, hatred and conspiracy theory based paranoia to the Tea Pot.

RNC Talking Point: Blame Bush
Cheney's Legacy of Fracking America to Death

Latest Hypocritical GOPerversion, another Prohibition!

Pro Life? Not even anti abortionists
Wall street's Spontaneous Abortionists

Booshammy

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telliottmbamsc 2 years 23 weeks ago
#2

ROCK ON CAROLINE01 !

People satisficing at the polls (triangulation) is a key part of the problem.

But I wouldn't vote for Romney (although a mormon got us out of the first great depression).

BOTH Obama and Romney are Wall Street\ALEC puppets.

Boycott the 2012 Presidential Elections and Occupy!

DdC's picture
DdC 2 years 23 weeks ago
#3

BOTH Obama and Romney are Wall Street\ALEC puppets.

Quit spreading redneck herrings. Either back up your nonsense or it is just gossip. Comparing any democrat to the past decades of the Boosh Klan is silly or plain stupid. Juniors family has been compared to seasoned fascists since the 50's. Like I said, I'm for Nader. But you'll never hit the target shooting in the opposite direction. You just let the evil doers get away with murder. Greed and Ignorance is the teaboggins. Neocons, that's it. Whatever drove them in the beginning is long gone. Taken over the same as they did pushing Swartzneggar into the recall mix. These are the GOP base, Boosh bragged about. Now you claim they're all the same?

No, just Mittney with his Cayman tax dodging and efficiency experts cutting jobs, Obama is compromising democratic values fighting the teabog dipshits who have been coerced by the neocons, far worse than Obama. You compare the two like a cut on the finger with full blown AIDs are both medical conditions so what's the dif? Grow up, the washington beltway is owned by Wall St. Not just the candidates. The original Libertarian Teabogs are also fiscally conservative hypocrites.. Hairy Browne Rivers had a problem with the clean air act too. But no problem gutting the corporate checks and balances causing ithe foul air. Anyone who would side with a corporations right to pollute the water and air is retarded and suicidal and has no business running for office. Obama is compromising way too much on the teabogs stealing tax money for their war toys and prison cages while whining about the poor, teachers and workers. More wage slashing the same as they do outsourcing tinkle down taxes. Wave that plastic flag some more, pay for more bullets they can shoot at American kid soldiers serving over a lie to protect oil interest. Pitifools!

Are the Teabogs Traitors, Serving a Southern Neoconfederacy?

Bush Crimes Against Humanity

1. Bush Lied Big Time about Whether or Not He was Forewarned about 9/11

2. Bush Lied to the American People and the World about His Reasons for Invading Iraq (Words of Mass Deception)

3. Bush Lied to our Soldiers and then Used them as Backdrops for His Re-election Propaganda

4. Bush Reneges on His Promise to Cooperate with the Official 9/11 Investigation Commission

5. Bush Actions upon Learning of the 9/11 Attack are Highly Suspect

6. Bush Stonewalls the Families of the Victims of 9/11

7. Bush Concern for Americas National Security is Bogus

8. Bush has Stonewalled the Justice Departments Criminal Investigation of the White House:

9. The Bush-led Neocon (neoconservative) Agenda
For a fuller picture of the neocon agenda, see, Project for a New American Century: Rebuilding Americas Defenses, at http://www.newamericancentury.org/ Long before 9/11, this remarkable document maps preliminary plans for the American invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq to secure oil and control the region. It also suggests that these invasions will not be supported by the American people until they experience another Pearl Harbor.

The New American Century by Arundhati Roy
(January 22, 2004 (February 9, 2004 issue)
In the great cities of Europe and America, where a few years ago these things would only have been whispered, now people are openly talking about the good side of imperialism and the need for a strong empire to police an unruly world. The new missionaries want order at the cost of justice. Discipline at the cost of dignity. And ascendancy at any price. Occasionally some of us are invited to "debate" the issue on "neutral" platforms provided by the corporate media. Debating imperialism is a bit like debating the pros and cons of rape. What can we say? That we really miss it?
☀Signatories to its statement of principles included future Bush administration officials Elliott Abrams, Dick Cheney, Paula Dobriansky, I. Lewis Libby, Peter Rodman, Donald Rumsfeld, Zalmay Khalilzad, and Paul Wolfowitz. Other signatories included Gary Bauer, William Bennett, Jeb Bush, Midge Decter, Frank Gaffney, Norman Podhoretz, Steve Forbes, Eliot Cohen, Fred Ikle, and Dan Quayle.

10. Bush Public Policy Favors Only Wealthy Special Interest Groups
Why is a so-called fiscal conservative on a spending spree that endangers the health and economic security of the vast majority of the American people?

11. Bush has Set Out to Destroy Social Security and has Failed to Protect the Pensions of Working People. Bush is waging war on the elderly and on future generations of Americans with efforts to destroy Social Security.

12. Bush Seeks to Fool Seniors and Destroy Medicare with a Phony Drug Bill
Bush rammed a prescription drug bill through Congress that will provide zero benefits for most seniors and actually serve to drug costs higher by encouraging the drug companies to raise prices as they see fit.

13. Bush is Anti-Choice and Anti-Womens Rights
Bush is waging war on women by aggressively appointing judges who seek to overturn Roe vs. Wade, and by supporting legislation that would narrow a womans right to choose.

14. Bush and Giant Corporations are Pursuing a Policy of Economic Class Warfare in America

15. Bush has Looted the U.S. Treasury to Enrich His Wealthy Friends
Bush looted the U.S. Treasury to the tune of $3 trillion to provide political payoffs to wealthy neocon special interest groups

16. Bush Tax Refunds are Nothing but an Ugly Scam on Working Families
Bush describes his looting of the U.S. Treasury as a tax cut for all Americans. Actually, the zero to $200 in tax relief that many middle-income earners did receive was more than offset by Bush-forced increases in local property and state taxes, tuition hikes, and increased energy costs.

17. Bush is Waging War on Americas Children
Bush promised to leave no child behind, and then delivered nothing but harm in the form of an unfunded mandate that thwarts all efforts to level Americas educational playing field.

18. Bush is Contributing to the Spread of AIDS amongst our Youth
Why does Bush always promise one thing publicly and then secretly do the opposite thing? What motivates his withholding funds so desperately needed to combat this devastating worldwide epidemic?

20. Bush is Waging War on the Environment
He refuses to enforce environmental law, he is waging war on our environment by dismantling sections of landmark environmental legislation, including the Clean Air and Clean Water Acts

Full descriptions and 21 thru 59 continued...

60. Bush Secrecy Exceeds All Reasonable Bounds
Bush is making government as secretive as the CIA by removing millions of pages of important information on health, safety, and environmental matters from public view. By tightly controlling information throughout government,

Crimes Against Nature
Rolling Stone: Crimes Against Nature
By Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

Bush is sabotaging the laws that have protected America's environment
for more than thirty years

George W. Bush will go down in history as America's worst environmental president. In a ferocious three-year attack, the Bush administration has initiated more than 200 major rollbacks of America's environmental laws, weakening the protection of our country's air, water, public lands and wildlife. Cloaked in meticulously crafted language designed to deceive the public, the administration intends to eliminate the nation's most important environmental laws by the end of the year.

Cheney's Legacy of Fracking America to Death

I don't know how these lemmings are going to explain all the sick people and newly poor from outsourced jobs as we're seeing show up. How do they think they will shop in the same grocery store as someone experiencing the ugliness of Boosh Shammy? Without getting their asses kicked in public? Or spit upon by kids. How to tell their own GOPerverted kids America is a third world country because of greed and ignorance. You say exactly the same as the German people watching the trains take their families to the gas chambers. Blaming democracy and Non christians. Now you're cheerleading Wall St blaming the workers for costing the poor rich too much forcing them to outsource? That is cowardice way beyond laziness most try to claim. Just plain administrated ignorance.

BUSH CRIME FAMILY LINKS

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kittycreek 2 years 23 weeks ago
#4

They think they can talk us out of voting for Obama because he isn't far enought to the left? The other option is to either not vote at all or vote Romney -- Yeah, right! OBAMA 2012!!!!

Hopefully, not only will we re-elect Obama; we will elect more Democrats to the House and Senate as well. It's our only hope!

Alberto Ceras 2 years 23 weeks ago
#5

Yes, a solid majority of Democrats in both the House and Senate - but only if they're fresh faces. Returning the same old Wall Street puppets (of both parties) - those millionaire career politicians who never worked a day in their lives, crooks and cowards financed by the wealthy, by big business, by Wall Street - won't change a goddam thing. As for Obama, no way José. With a truly Democratic Congress - not Democratic in name only - Romney couldn't get any "favor the rich" programs enacted.

As for Congress, no more Harry Reid, no more Nancy Pelosi. But I betcha that almost all - maybe all - those who read this comment will vote their incumbent back into office - again and again and again. The country has gone wrong because of the ignorant, lazy voters with their "Oh, no! My guy's fine. It's all those others." Only term limits for Congress - for all federal elective office - can get the nation back on track. And who on this supposedly progressive, liberal site would support term limits? One or two? Maybe.

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doh1304 2 years 23 weeks ago
#6

Turn the election on it's head!

The more we support progressives down ticket the more we support Obama (whether we like it or not does not matter - anyone who comes to the polls to vote for a progressive for the House will vote for Obama as well) This does not apply downward - many people will come out and only vote for Obama and not bother past that. Get it? Coattails go up more than they go down.

State Assemblymen and mayors and county supervisors are younger. Obama will have 4 more years, a 30-year-old city councilman will have 40 more years. He is easier to effectively support and his influence will dovetail over time. The longer the time frame of our strategy the cheaper and more effective it will be.

Obama is (rightly, if excessively) afraid of energizing the racist right, and contrary to what I said above, since they vote on hate issues when they vote they will vote down ticket. An aggressive pro-Obama campaign does more damage down ticket than it helps. Oddly, because of the nature of news coverage, that can be manipulated - "Obama supports Joe" helps Joe, (depending on the yahoo level of the district) even when "Obama supports issue X" will hurt Joe, since more Joe supporters will hear about the former, but more Obama haters will hear about the later.

To illustrate: President Obama goes to SF and gives a speech where he supports gay marriage. It hits the nightly news and thousands of homophobes in the Carolinas get riled up. Gay marriage supporters would have voted and would have voted for Obama anyway. But if he goes to some midwestern college town and gives a speech on education and says therefore he supports "Joe for State Senate" the news ignores it, but then Joe goes on to mention his three biggest issues - education, solar power, and gay marriage. Joe gains votes and while they are there they also vote Obama.

Alberto Ceras 2 years 23 weeks ago
#7

Here's an Intriguing article but even more the comments. Worth it to take a break from blogging in order to consider others’ ideas:

http://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/the-future-of-ideological-conflict

The Future of Ideological Conflict

Steve Fuller

Steve Fuller is Professor of Social Epistemology at the University of Warwick, United Kingdom. He is co-author, with Veronika Lipinska, of The Proactionary Imperative.

May. 7, 2012

(a short excerpt)

But perhaps most conspicuously absent from both precautionary and proactionary thinking is the old welfare-state ideal – that we might procreate at will in a world where our offspring are assured a secure existence. For all of their substantial disagreements, both sides dismiss this prospect as a twentieth-century fantasy that was only temporarily realized in Northern Europe for a few decades after World War II.

Lurking behind this dismissal is a sense that humanity itself is undergoing a massive transformation in its self-understanding. However, that transformation is moving at once in two diametrically opposed directions, which I have called “Humanity 2.0.”

Precautionary types would reacquaint us with our humble animal origins, from which we have strayed for much too long, whereas exponents of the proactionary principle would expedite our departure from our evolutionary past. At the very least, they would re-engineer our biology, if not replace it altogether with some intellectually superior and more durable substratum.

One Brief Comment

John Davidson 8 hours ago

Respectfully Steve, as regards the United States, you have no idea about what you are talking.

1. There is only one issue in the United States: abortion. It trumps everything, making it impossible to move in any direction, which is exactly what both sides want.

2. Precautionary types are as irrelevant now as when Cicero lead the same sorts of people against Caesar.

3. A secure existence is more at hand than ever before and yet farther away. Why? Jealously and mistrust are easier to create and we lack a political system capable of electing leaders with the ability to do anything about it. Look at how pathetic Obama is compared to the tasks before him.

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