There are many, many sites that offer information and forecasts on hydrogen as the fuel of the future. Here are just a few:

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/fuel-efficiency/alternative-fuels/fuel-cell.htm

http://www.eco20-20.com/How-Iceland-Has-Almost-Kicked-the-Fossil-Fuels-Habit.html

http://www.fuelcelltoday.com/media/1562343/hydrogen_and_fuel_cells_in_the_nordic_countries_sweden.pdf

http://www.europeanvoice.com/article/imported/harnessing-hydrogen-iceland-s-vision-of-a-clean-renewable-and-self-sufficient-future/47049.aspx

Iceland's government is aiming for total ‘hydrogenisation' by 2050.

Some dream of eventually exporting the hydrogen to create a booming industry: Arnason has even inspired his countrymen to imagine Iceland as the ‘Kuwait of the North'.

http://www.techcast.org/BreakthroughAnalysis.aspx?ID=82

Summary

Governments and the auto industry are pouring billions into hydrogen vehicle research and development. Internal combustion engines are only 14% efficient, while hydrogen fuel cells are 42% efficient, and autos consume 26% of all energy. Finding a supply of hydrogen is problematic, but a variety of methods is being developed that could prove commercially feasible. Fuel cell autos are considered long-range alternatives to electric cars, and they are also similar to hybrids. These cars all use electric motors to drive wheels, batteries to store energy, regenerative braking to conserve it, and may in time use composite bodies that are lighter. TechCast estimates fuel cell cars will enter the commercial market by 2015, eventually creating global demand that may reach several $ trillion. (Also see Hydrogen Economy)

Selected Adoption & Forecast Data

Expected to be on the market about 2015

• Toyota expects to have fuel-cell cars on the market by 2015 (Washington Post 4/16/11).

• Daimler Chrysler thinks competitive fuel cell cars will be on the road by 2012-2015. (News.com 5/18/07)

• The US National Research Council said "Lower-cost fuel cell [cars] are likely to be available by 2015. 2 million hydrogen powered cars could be operating in the US in 2020 and 25 million by 2030." (NRC Committee on Fuel Cell Technologies)

• The Fuel Cell Council says use of fuel cells is growing 75%/year, with total sales of $46 B expected in '11. (Kelly Carnes, TechVision21)

http://www.marketplace.org/topics/sustainability/hydrogen-powered-cars-are-coming

That's Energy Secretary Steven Chu three years ago explaining to senators why the Obama administration had decided not to place its bets -- and taxpayers' money -- on hydrogen-powered vehicles.

Chu: There are real issues. The most problematic, in my opinion, is we still have not figured out how to store hydrogen in a compact form. The other is the infrastructure: We would have to create a totally new infrastructure for hydrogen vehicles to be fueled.

That didn't stop foreign car companies including Toyota, Daimler and Honda from pushing ahead. Hydrogen cars are coming.

Craig Scott: Certainly the goal is to commercialize the vehicle in a big way.

That's Craig Scott, manager of advanced technologies at Toyota. Toyota has already developed tanks to store hydrogen in a compact form. He says its car will be three times more efficient than a Prius. It'll debut in 2015 at an estimated starting price of $50,000 that he says will drop sharply after that.

Scott: The plan is to roll them out into select markets that have infrastructure that can support the car.

That is basically code for Germany and Japan, where hundreds of hydrogen fueling stations will be built in the next few years.

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media_muse 2 years 35 weeks ago
#1

How about a book which really tells the truth about FUSION - here it is - of course that means you have to read a reliable accounting of the deception surrounding FUSION....(and find out who's getting the big buckeros from our government to deceive us!)

Sun in a Bottle: The Strange History of Fusion and the Science of ...www.amazon.com › BooksProfessional & TechnicalEngineering

Amazon.com: Sun in a Bottle: The Strange History of Fusion and the Science of Wishful Thinking (9780670020331): Charles Seife: Books.

From Publishers Weekly: "Fifty years ago scientists and futurists glowingly predicted a future in which cars would run on little fusion cells and the world would extract deuterium from the oceans for an inexhaustible supply of energy. Like all too many shining visions, fusion turned out to be a mirage. Award-winning science journalist Seife (Zero) takes a long, hard look at nuclear fusion and the failure of one scheme after another to turn it into a sustainable energy source. Many readers will remember the 1989 cold fusion debacle, but Seife explains why tabletop fusion isn't all that difficult to achieve. The problem, as with all fusion devices except the hydrogen bomb, is to produce more energy than the fusion process consumes. The two most promising approaches today use plasma and lasers, but again, Seife reports, scientists have been repeatedly frustrated. The United States and several other industrial nations recently agreed optimistically to sink billions of dollars into a 30-year fusion power project. Seife's approachable book should interest everyone concerned about finding alternative energy sources. (Nov. 3) "
Copyright © Reed Business Information, a division of Reed Elsevier Inc. All rights reserved.

media_muse 2 years 35 weeks ago
#2

Maybe...possibly....for your great-great grandchildren. But it's still only a maybe. In the mean while ethanol is viable and better for our air quality & vehicles.

Hydrogen fuel is still NOT VIABLE. The theoretical folks talk talk talk about the potential but potential doesn't fly. Although fuel cell technology PREDATES the internal combustion engine the theorists have not yet surpassed theory. Nor have they figured out how to manage control compress store or distribute hydrogen. We would be better served to direct our resources to the already designed & achievable vaporized alcohol engine.

Strangely folks prefer to hold on to a possible possibility and say screw it - for right now and the next 2, 5, 8, 10, 15, 20 years or more - waiting. Then we will be really really screwed. I hope the grandchildren survive the climate change.

When our military develops technology along with a private consuming corporation (TOYOTA), and/or with a consuming privatized public university - WE - you & me & all - ALL of the conscripted tax payers pay for the technological development. WE PAY FOR THEIR BETTING & INVESTING. Then after squandering trillions of our tax dollars they get to further enjoy the sucking, chomping carnivorous benefits of our labor to enjoy fatter profits by charging us for the new technology - that they hold the patent on - that WE the people paid for.

Hydrogen cars: A zero-emission longshot By Peter Valdes-Dapena @PeterDrivesMarch 19, 2012: 5:09 AM ET

"First, hydrogen fuel cell cars are expensive. The systems will cost more than many of the other powertrains that are out there today because these are first generation technologies," said Charles Freese, who heads hydrogen vehicle development for GM.

The good news is that they are, at least, much less expensive than they used to be. Both General Motors and Toyota say that they've chopped the cost of building their experimental fuel cell vehicles down to a tenth of what it used to be.

So that means that vehicles that used to cost $1 million to build a few years ago now cost $100,000. That's still way too much for commercial viability.

Toyota sees further cost cuts on the horizon before it begins selling its hydrogen-powered sedan in 2015.

"The target is in the $50,000 range in order to interest enough customers to make the thing work," Toyota spokesman John Hanson said.

Fill 'er up! But Where?

The other big problem for hydrogen cars is "infrastructure" which, in this case, means hydrogen filling stations. Bottom line: If you don't live near Los Angeles, you'll probably have a tough time filling up.

"The earliest the infrastructure becomes viable is 2015 or 2016," said GM's Freese, "and that's debatable." At least the fuel itself isn't hard to locate. It is, literally, everywhere.

Hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe. But, ordinarily, it doesn't just float around by itself. It has to pried out of molecules like those of water or natural gas.

media_muse 2 years 35 weeks ago
#3

I believe folks ought to understand who pays for developing new energies - it is WE THE TAXPAYERS. Do we need to pay development costs for the CORPORATION FED-EX ? For Chu's Holiday lighting novelty?

Fuel Cell Powers Up Festivities at Secretary Chu’s Holiday Party

Maryland like many states in the USA is struggling financially but offers a sales tax exemption. I find it curious - how can they AFFORD to give a tax exemption on a big ticket item?

States Continue to Feel Recession's Impact — Center on Budget ...www.cbpp.org/1-15-08sfp.htmMar 21, 2012 – State budget estimates for the upcoming fiscal year show that states still face a long and uncertain ... Meanwhile, states' education and health care obligations continue to grow. .... Maryland, 0, $1.0 billion, $1.0 billion, 6.9% ...

Do you mind that the government takes our hard earned wages - by taxing us - and then giving it away to whomever they decide ought to have our dollars? I do not believe our government ought to give my tax money to BIG CORPORATIONS - ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY HAVE THEIR OWN MONEY IN PROFITS. What happened to the business concept that a company pay for their own research & development ? ? ?

Why are WE THE TAX PAYING CITIZENS giving money to FEDEX or SPRINT NEXTEL ? ? ? WHY ARE WE paying out taxes so our government can help out those WHO CAN HELP THEMSELVES?

International Partnerships for the Hydrogen Economy Fact Sheet The U.S. has committed $1.7 billion to implement collaborative and cooperative efforts to advance research, development and deployment of hydrogen production, storage, transport and distribution, fuel cell technologies, common codes and standards for hydrogen fuel utilization, and coordination of international efforts to develop a global hydrogen economy.......

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DdC 2 years 35 weeks ago
#4

Anything made of Hydrocarbons can be made of Carbohydrates...
Hemp just happens to be the most versatile....jpg

The alternatives to fossil fools availability is political. The mindset creating the infrastructure with fossil fools, traffic jams adding to profits and steel bodies less dent resistant than Hemp-fiberglass. Hemp could replace a lot of the products made from fossil fools or that use large amounts of fossil fools. Only politics is stopping us. Including the corporate media and fairytale spinners on Madison Ave making huge profits on our elections. Another birthright turned into a commodity. Like healthcare and the food supply. Serving the vested ignorant.

Doctors in the US are not required to have any formal nutritional education. Though many illnesses are caused by nutritional deficiencies, most doctors prescribe a "pill-for-an-ill" and neglect to educate patients on prevention and lifestyle improvements that can heal many illnesses.”

The entire addiction to going somewhere to get something, Cohabitation to Hemp multi product alternative and re-utilizing old ways of farming and living with technology. Not just serving the bottom line with subsidized multi billion dollar profits. Subsidize alternatives. If they didn't we would pay a lot more, but that dog don't hunt since the higher cost of alternatives would also be lowered. Plastic is a large crude oil product that veggie oil could replace. Politics are disgusting when it is discovered. The Big Oil, Pharma, Prisons, Ag and Military have been deciding what we buy since Rockefeller sabotaged filling it up with ethyl. I shake my head trying to even contemplate how they can sleep knowingly doing harm to their own families and neighbors spewing sulfur and dioxins, radiation and carcinogens. Worse are the trolls in denial not even reaping the profits. 90 million pounds of chemical agent orange lites sprayed on the US cotton crop each year and not a drop on Hemp, with greater tensile strength. Replacing killing trees with Hemp wood also with greater tensile strength, Many scrap materials including hemp can make paper without killing a huge provider as a living tree. Removing CO2 and producing O2 and thousands of gallons of fresh H2O. Factory Meat uses a lot of fresh water in the 10/1 ratio of grain for meat. The grain is also spray poisoned and takes fresh water. At least we should stop exporting. Cheney's Fraking Up America or Pipe lines through the Aquifer is moronic. All so a few can reap in huge incomes and profits. No allegiance to the people or Constitution. Another reason for Hemp is historically they make the best nooses to hang the neocon fascists.

Ganjawar in Everything

"Our problems stem from our acceptance of this filthy, rotten system."
~ Dorothy Day

Prohibition History I Never Knew

FCX Clarity Fuel Cell Vehicle Official Car for 2008 Indy Japan
Since 2007, all IRL IndyCar series racers run on low environmental impact 100% ethanol fuel. Scheduled for release in the U.S. in the summer and in Japan in the autumn of this year, the FCX Clarity runs on hydrogen and emits no CO2 or other environmentally harmful emissions in operation, making it an ideal vehicle for the event. The fuel cell vehicle emits only water and is regarded as the ultimate environmentally responsible vehicle.

ENERGY CRISIS: Ford And Diesel Never Intended Cars To Use Gasoline
Rudolf Diesel designed his prototype diesel engine a century ago, his fuel of choice was peanut oil.

Economics: Energy, Environment and Commerce
In the early 1900s, Henry Ford and others recognized an important point - that up to 90 percent of all fossil fuel used in the world today (coal, oil, natural gas, etc.) should long ago have been replaced with biomass such as: cornstalks, cannabis and waste paper.

Hemp Fuel, Bio Mass/Bio Diesel
Anything made from crude oil hydrocarbons, can be made with family farmers home grown veggie oil carbohydrates!

Hemp Car.org * Pic

Lotus Goes Green with Hemp Car

Henry Fords Hemp Car 1941 video
Mr. Ford made a car com­plete­ly from the ground (hemp, sisal, and wheat straw), it was vir­tu­al­ly in­de­struc­tible! Watch as Mr. Ford swings an axe three times hitting the back fender and showing no damage result­ing from the blows. Wow, I want a car like that...one step better, one that also uses hemp fuel!

U2b Henry Ford's 'plastic hemp car' from 1941
If we legalized industrial hemp production in the United States, we can completely remove our dependence on foreign oil altogether, and avoid disasters like the BP oil spill in the future. If Henry Ford could produce a hemp car running on hemp fuel in 1941...

this just in...
Waste not, want not – Hemp Composites

How a new innovation centre is building the future on biomass
The CIC emphasizes the integration of biomass and materials derived from agricultural products into manufacturing. Motorcoach Industries, which has built almost one third of all buses currently in operation in North America, is one of their recent success stories. By replacing the fiberglass in the bus doors with natural fibres from Manitoba grown hemp, they reduced the weight of each door by 30%, and its cost by $100. This makes the buses greener, since reducing the weight of the vehicle reduces its carbon footprint. It also represents a more efficient use of farmland – only 25% of the biomass from a typical harvest is used for conventional purposes, whereas using the leftover matter for industrial composites means 100% of the plant can be put to good use. Read complete article here:

media_muse 2 years 35 weeks ago
#5

DcC - no doubt about it - hemp is an amazing plant! We ought to bring it back for a variety of purposes.

If we could replace hemp (rather than cotton) for making fabric we would save a lot of water - cotton takes much more water to grow than hemp.

Henry Fords first cars ran on alcohol fuel because that's what the farmers used for their tractors. Currently alcohol fuel or ethanol as some call it is legal - unfortunately hemp is not. We ought to be using alcohol fuel as one of the alternative renewables now and as a bridge for future fuel issues as it is clean burning - better for the environment. Currently other countries are using alcohol fuel - as was done in the past. Our military is already using it. We have it available in some places here but the American Petroleum Institute doesn't believe in educating the consuming citizens of the USA about the beauty of alcohol fuel - they profitably prefer keeping folks ignorant and either sweltering or freezing from the climate changes.

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