I don't feel we are making much headway in this gun discussion. I think this debate needs to get back to the basics. When emotions are involve logic seems to get in the way. So lets try some logic. If it's alright with you I would like to ask you a few question.
Do you believe that inanimate objects are inherently good or bad? I'm going to answer that one for you. No. If you don't agree then I think we need to talk about the weather instead.
Do you think an inanimate object can make you do something. I'm going to answer that for you also. No.
I have always thought of you as being an Average guy. You wouldn't want to hurt anyone. You try to do the right thing. You would rather people like you. You would much rather be friends with someone then enemies. I think that most people are that way. You have had a gun in your house for over 20 years. Have you ever had the urge to shoot Bette? How about the mailman when he delivers the mail to the wrong house. I'm going to say No. If that gun was loaded on the kitchen table and you had a really big argument, would you shoot her then? How about if you had a loaded 50 cal machine gun with the safety off in your front room, a case of AK47's in your bedroom and hand grenades on every counter in your house would you than be tempted to kill Bette, the postman and some neighbors? No. I guessing from all your No answers that the availability of guns, the number of weapons, or the type of weapons really didn't change your opinion about killing your family or neighbors. I am also guessing that you would now be REAAAAALLY CAREFUL around the house so that you, your wife even a burglar would not cause a catastrophe. You would be a very nervous guy.
Now if most people are the way you are then we really don't have much of a problem. But what about the children you say, the irresponsible, the mentally ill, the sociopaths, the criminals. Our world is chock full of dangerous things. I'm not going to insult your intelligence by naming 50 different things that are extremely dangerous that we come in contact everyday that we seem to, mostly, keep our kids, mentally ill and so-forth away from. Natural gas always amazed me. The fact that we have in our house, with NO safeties a device that if misused could blow up your entire house and possible part of you neighborhood. Gasoline is another. We keep it in plastic buckets in our garages for Christ sake.
Now at this point your mind is racing for a clever come back and since I've been doing all the talking for you. Let me also handle your come back. Well we need gasoline, and natural gas, but who needs a 30 rnd magazine. Who are you, the government or anyone else, within reason, to say what I need or don't need. Do you need a 30 inch TV? Do you need an automobile. My father use to always say when I talked about the latest hot rod, "you don't need a big engine" You are born and than you die. In between you play with your toys! Who are you to tell me that my toys are more dangerous then yours. Bicycle's are very dangerous. How bout skate boards? You don't need a motorcycle, outlaw them. NEED I GO ON! (sorry, there I was yelling)
People are afraid of different things. Many people are afraid of heart disease and they do what they think is best to protect them self. People are afraid of head injuries so they were seat belts and helmet. Some people are afraid of the flu, they were masks. I am afraid that a shit head will kick in my door and I will not be able to protect myself from him. I afraid the government will go broke and out of control and looters will rob and kill me. The government can't tell me what to be afraid of. They can't predict with certainty that these things would happen. They can't tell me I can't protect myself in my home or about with the same weapon that they can't control with a million laws. How dare they.
Frank, try logic when listening to all this gun BS. Bad things happen sometimes. Do you really think guns caused these tragic shooting? Do you really thing the size of the magazine would stop this sick person from hurting other people, really. Killers kill!
As a foot note the part that really pisses me off are the people that would take advantage of these poor people for there own benefit. The news media makes money hand over fist spewing there inflammatory misinformation. The politicians get votes by capitalizing on people's fears. The anti-gun groups for using miss information to furthering there insane cause.
Years ago there was a outside gun range near Chicago name Fox Vally. Eventually anti gun groups shut it down for made up reasons. You could spend all day there in the sun. People were armed to the teeth. They had AK47, AR15, 22's, Black power rifle's, 100 rnd magazines, 38's, you name it people had them. I never heard of an incident or accident there. People talked about there firearms, showed them to each other, let other people shoot them if they wanted to. They were all good people and wouldn't hurt a soul. That was America. Freedom to do what you wanted to do. As long as you didn't hurt anyone. It was a great time.