Why are centers that perform both forms of abortions: Mid-term and Late-term do not want the woman to view an a ultra sound or wait one extra day to get services done? Do they feel the woman will not accept an abortion and they lose in on income?

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Bush_Wacker's picture
Bush_Wacker 2 years 26 weeks ago
#1

Maybe they are afraid that in such an emotional and personal situation the woman will decide against the procedure now and come to regret it shortly thereafter. Maybe then you have a woman with a child that she never really wanted. Maybe that means a life of hell for the child. Maybe, I don't know.

Recovering conservative2's picture
Recovering cons... 2 years 26 weeks ago
#2

First Katshores, most abortion occur in the first trimester

As to your pointless speculation "maybe the center would make more money" It would more likely to make more money if the complications from the pregancy was allowed to continue. Intensive care units are huge expenses, and can run to thousands of dollars a day.Since most of the facilties are health care centers of some type. Also the doctors could prescribe all sorts of medicines for all the complications for the complications. Mid and late term abortions are done typically for medical reasons just ask Rick Santorum about the issue.

But I thought you were all about Free Markets allowing them to make the decisions!! Why do you want to limit rights of a woman and her reproductive tract but you think regulating a coal mining operation is TOO MUCH regulation. I wish you RWNJ would get your story straight on what is too much or too little government

"The vast majority of abortions are performed during the first trimester, and Roe v. Wade only protects first and second trimester abortions."- http://civilliberty.about.com/od/abortion/tp/abortionmyths.htm

Question: How Much Does an Abortion Cost?Figuring out what an abortion will cost depends on the method of abortion you choose in consultation with your health care provider.

Answer: When you're making the difficult decision whether or not to have an abortion, cost is a factor. Eighty-eight percent of abortions in the US are done within the first trimester (the first 12 weeks of pregnancy.) Many more options are available during this time period including medication abortions (using the abortion pill mifepristone or RU-486) or in-clinic surgical procedures; both can be done through clinics, or private health care providers.

, a first trimester abortion can cost between $350 and $900 for an in-clinic procedure, and between $350 and $650 for a medication abortion (which must be done within 9 weeks of the first day of your last menstrual period.) Abortions performed within a hospital typically cost more.

Beyond the 13th week, it can be extremely difficult to find a provider willing to perform a second trimester abortion. The cost of a second trimester abortion will be significantly higher than a first trimester abortion- http://womensissues.about.com/od/abortion/f/Abortion-Cost-How-Much-Does-...

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Calperson 2 years 26 weeks ago
#3
Quote Bush_Wacker:

Maybe then you have a woman with a child that she never really wanted.

There are plenty of loving families that would adopt the child. You don't have to murder them just because someone else might feel bad or guilty!

Recovering conservative2's picture
Recovering cons... 2 years 26 weeks ago
#4
Quote Calperson:
Quote Bush_Wacker:

Maybe then you have a woman with a child that she never really wanted.

There are plenty of loving families that would adopt the child. You don't have to murder them just because someone else might feel bad or guilty!

Unfortunately there are over 400,000 children in foster homes, whre are the familes to adopt these children

see http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/cb/stats_research/afcars/trends_june2011...

Add to that there are 16 million children living in poverty or 22% http://www.npc.umich.edu/poverty/

that is 1 in 5 children living in poverty, http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2010-06-08-1Achild08_ST_N.htm

sounds like you idea of voluntary charities is doing wonders for Children in this nation.

from all your comment CalPerson, I thought you would agree with Scroog and tell them to hurry up and reduce the surplus population or do you labor camps / sweat shops/ debtor prisons not have enough people in them?

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pkrause12249 2 years 26 weeks ago
#5

I personally do not believe in abortion. I think the issue of discounting a pregnancy is very personal and complex. I believe these decisions need to be discussed between a woman and her doctor. Late term abortions around the 20 weeks gestation the fetus is becoming a baby. There have been babies born and survived at 20 weeks of gestation. This is what Roe v Wade was discussing about the viability of the fetus with artificial means outside the womb. Mid-term abortions that go over 20 weeks would be questionable because of the viability stage. This should be apart of the doctor’s ethics to determine the viability of the fetus and maturity before recommending to the patient to discontinuing the pregnancy. The professional doctor with ethics will do further testing to determine viability. This is again not for the law to decide, but the medical community to decide. The profession of a doctor needs to protect how the community respects and trust a doctor’s care. This is done by ethic panels and fellowships and other training to make sure the doctor is always providing a level of care that the patient trusts. My concern is always for women that have to make this choice. I just hope that these women are getting the emotional support they need to move pass their decision to discontinue the pregnancy. Now if the decision to have an abortion is made because of money, how will I support the child? That the mother is deciding that it will be easier to abort the baby then have the baby. This thought is reflective on society that we all live in. If society provided health care for everyone then that is one less pressure of “how to support the child”. If society provided day care services to the family during the mother’s pursuit of education or sustainable work. The day care service would be another way to reduce pressure of the decision to have an abortion. If society provided free education: college and vocational programs this would be another way to reduce pressure of the decision to have an abortion. If society creates a safe and secure place to have children the decision to have an abortion will be less used.

Zenzoe 2 years 26 weeks ago
#6

Oye. Did you folks not notice the 17 page discussion on the message boards, "A Sane Conversation about Abortion?" All of these things have been discussed there, ad infinitum, and, as far as I can remember, not one person involved in the discussion changed his or her opinion by much. Isn't it enough now?

If you want to know why women do not like being forced to do an ultrasound before having an abortion in the first trimester, which is when the overwhelming majority of abortions occur, then go to any of the hundreds of pro-choice sites and start reading.

The question you ask, Katshores, assumes "facts" not in evidence—i.e., that women getting abortions in the second and third trimesters do not want to look at ultrasounds. In fact, most abortions within that time-frame involve some abnormality either with the pregnancy or with the fetus. In those cases, ultrasound, or whatever medical necessity needed to make a diagnosis, would have been done to determine what had gone wrong. The notion that women willy-nilly opt for abortions late in their pregnancies, just for the heck of it, defies reality. That's an ideologically-driven myth, so we need to stop promoting it.

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