President Obama claims that the Canadian Health Plan is the best and we (The United States) should model their plan. So I ask why since 1966 when Prime Minster Pearson passed their health plan, why is it that 13 million (Mostly lower income citizens from Canada) come here for health care instead of staying their and get it done?

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SueN's picture
SueN 2 years 15 weeks ago
#1

Do you have a source for that figure?

Bush_Wacker's picture
Bush_Wacker 2 years 15 weeks ago
#2

Most Canadians who come to the US for medical care do so because the Canadian health plan will pay for it. If they can get a procedure done in 2 weeks instead of 3 weeks they might cross the border to get it done a little quicker. They aren't paying for it out of their own pockets. They don't come here because our healthcare is better, they come here because it's more convenient sometimes.

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Katshores 2 years 15 weeks ago
#3

Bush-Wacker that is very untrue. At 19 yrs old I had Ovarian Cancer where my entire reproductive system was removed. I had to wait 3 yrs to get surgery done. When I left Canada I went to a doctor here at the Cleveland Clinic on the same day I became a American Citizen I was told if I was a American Citizen I wouldnt have face the entire removal. But with the Canadian System you wait. Its like the same at the VA Hospitals here. You wait. and wait and wait. I feel if its service related they should have free care, but if its not they should use their own doctors!

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Bush_Wacker 2 years 15 weeks ago
#4

I said most Kat, not all. There is always acceptions. I am very sorry to hear of your ordeal. Nobody on this earth deserves that. Whether you needed an entire removal or not is subject to professional knowledge. It may very well have saved your life.

My sister got melenoma from a mole she had on her chest. The US specialists removed the mole and had to dig a little deeper. They pronounced her cancer free and told her to get a check up every 3 years. She went in 3 years later for her checkup and they said the cancer was back. Because she had waited so long it was spread through her kidneys and liver and surgery was out of the question. She died 6 months later at the age of 41.

I hope you are ok and don't have any recurrences.

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Caleb 2 years 15 weeks ago
#5

From Wikipedia.org comparing Canadian and American health care systems at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_the_health_care_systems_in_Canada_and_the_United_States

"Through all entities in its public-private system, the U.S. spends more per capita than any other nation in the world,[18] but is the only wealthy industrialized country in the world that lacks some form of universal health care.[19] In March 2010, the US Congress passed regulatory reform of the American health insurance system. However since this legislation is not fundamental health care reform, it is unclear what its effect will be and as the new legislation is implemented in stages, with the last provision in effect in 2018, it will be some years before any empirical evaluation of the full effects on the comparison could be determined.[20]"

So, we are the only wealthy industrialized country that lacks some form of universal health care -- what a terrible situation.

T.R. Reid did amazing research on this topic, as is mentioned below. (Thom has had him on his program several times for incredibly insightful reporting.)

From http://www.singlepayeraction.org/blog/?p=351 is:

"“Doctors, hospitals, nurses, labs can all be for-profit,” Reid said. “But the payment system has to be non-profit. All the other countries have agreed on that. We are the only one that allows health insurance companies to make a profit. You can’t allow a profit to be made on the basic package of health insurance.”"

T. R. Reid's bottom line is to prevent for-profit companies from offering health care to our citizens. He noted that some countries -- like Japan -- require people to buy insurance themselves, but these are from heavily regulated NONPROFIT companies. Profit should be Sure makes sense to me! And as Teddy Roosevelt said, "Necessitous men are not free men" -- nothing more necessary than medical treatment when we need it for our families, for ourselves, etc.

Yours,

Caleb

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Katshores 2 years 15 weeks ago
#6

Most people who have cancer are told by their Oncologist that 5 years is the key year to say they are cancer free. But sometimes it does come back. I am very sorry for your lost of your sister. Whats her name? I will say a paryer for her like I do many people I know from being a member here and other sites. Cancer does not pick a Republican or Democratic to be its next victim. Im 35 yrs old and I am doing well. I will say this their are many men when they find out I am unable to produce they often walk away and I even remember one telling me I am not much of a woman. Oh well. God Bless your sister Bush Wacker.

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