The Peaceless Human Condition

Below is an exchange between a Libertarian Friend and my Liberal self. thinkingblue

Friend, I have an idea that we are close in our ideas on this one, too. What do you think? Friend
TEN Facts about Israel’s Massacre against the Gaza Freedom Flotilla
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Hi Friend, If you say it's sad and hopeless, then we can agree. Why? Because human beings lack empathy (especially in large groups). People just can't get it through their thick skulls that we are all the same. They continuously form groups of like-minded (especially in hate) so they can stick together while disparaging (and trying to destroy) those who are different from themselves. (Whether the difference be in thought or appearance.)

When one group is so demoralized (as were the Jews in Nazi Germany) and they are determined not to ever allow this to happen again... For some strange reason, in their grand efforts to not be victims, they become the bullies who brutalized them in the first place. (Remember the Stanford Prison Experiment.)

The flotilla attack was despicable but deep inside myself I can somewhat understand Israel's overkill tactics (although I believe it illogical). They fear attacks from the lands bordering their own to such a degree that almost everything is conceived as some sort of threat. Their fears keep them in bondage and force them to become ruthless. It's like a vicious cycle... the more they act upon their fears the more fear they generate. That's the hopeless part.

Maybe someday in the far, far future, human beings will evolve into a more peace-like creature but don't hold your breath, I believe we humans will suffer a great deal, mostly at our own hands and we may even push our species to extinction. (If global warming doesn't beat us to it.)

Do I sound pessimistic? When it comes to human existence, you bet I am.
Thanks,
Your Friend
thinkingblue

PS: A Liberal friend of mine just brought the below article and video to my attention. It recapitulates to me, that for the most part we humans have a long way to go to become peace like.

Irish-American Ken O'Keefe Recounts His Experience On The Mavi Marmara And In Israeli Detention

I have for many years understood that we, people of conscience, are the true holders of power in this world. Frustratingly however we have largely relinquished that power and failed to reach our full potential. Our potential to create a better world, a just world. Nonetheless I have conspired with others of like mind to reveal and exercise our true power. In 2002 I initiated the TJP Human Shield Action to Iraq because I knew that the invasion of Iraq had been planned well in advance, that it was part of a 'Global Spectrum Dominance' agenda as laid out by the Project For A New American Century.

I knew that protests had no chance of stopping the invasion, and that largely these protests were just a way of making us feel better about the coming mass murder; by being able to say I protested against it. With that understanding I argued that the only viable way to stop the invasion was to conduct a mass migration to Iraq. A migration in which people from around the world, especially western citizens, would position themselves at sites in Iraq that are supposed to be protected by international law, but which are routinely bombed when it is only Iraqi, Palestinian, generally non-white, western lives who will be killed. I felt 10,000 such people could stop the invasion, or at the very least, expose the invasion for what it was from the start, an act of international aggression, a war crime and a crime against humanity.

When our two double-decker buses travelled from London to Baghdad through Turkey, it was ever clear that the people of Turkey also could sense the power of this act, and they were the biggest participants in it. In the end we did not get the numbers required to stop the war, with at least one million Iraqi's dead as a result, but I remain convinced that it was within our power to prevent the invasion. A massive opportunity lost as far as I am concerned.

In 2007 I joined the Free Gaza Movement with its plan to challenge the blockade of Gaza by travelling to Gaza by sea. From the moment I heard of the plan I knew it could succeed and ultimately I served as a captain on the first attempt. The Israeli government said throughout our preparation that we were no better than pirates and they would treat us as such. They made clear we would not reach Gaza. And still I knew we could succeed. And we did. Two boats with 46 passengers from various countries managed to sail into Gaza on August 23, 2010; this was the first time this had been done in 41 years. The truth is the blockade of Gaza is far more than three years old, and yet we, a small group of conscientious people defied the Israeli machine and celebrated with tens of thousands of Gazans when we arrived that day. We proved that it could be done. We proved that an intelligent plan, with skilled manipulation of the media, could render the full might of the Israeli Navy useless. And I knew then that this was only the tip of the iceberg.

So participating in the Freedom Flotilla is like a family reunion to me. It is my long lost family whose conscience is their guide, who have shed the fear, who act with humanity. But I was especially proud to join IHH and the Turkish elements of the flotilla. I deeply admire the strength and character of the Turkish people, despite your history having stains of injustice, like every nation, you are today from citizen to Prime Minister among the leaders in the cause of humanity and justice.

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Sanford Russell 4 years 23 weeks ago
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Thanks for your post, thinkingblue. I wish Thom would have the courage to discuss Israel's attack on the humanatarian flotilla but he's apparently beholden to Sen. Bernie Sanders and possibility to contributors. Amy Goodman on her program "Democracy Now" talks of the tragic affair regularly. Just a day or so ago she interviewed one member of the flotilla who had been able to smuggle out a video of the attack. Among other things the video shows an Israeli commando pumping four bullets into the head of a wounded activist lying prostrate and helpless at his feet. Israel, the nation, has absolutely lost its moral compass (but maybe it never had one to lose). Someone has pointed out, correctly, that Israelis were the first terrorists in the lands they now occupy.

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