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  • How Do We Pry the Confederate Monuments Out Of Trump's Tiny Hands?   4 weeks 6 days ago

    Whatabout evidently is claiming a special privilege by expecting that the content of his posts can never be challenged, which he conflates falsely with an ad hominem attack. If one reads my post carefully (which is now #4) with any degree of comprehension, it is clear that the general attitudes of racists and bigots are being disputed, as they should be whenever they crop up. If whatabout identifies with those attitudes, which he obviously does by his own words, then so be it -- it's a conflict of his own making. If I used the same metric of logical fallacy that he is employing, then his last post immediately above (unless he again changes the sequence by "editing") could be equally interpreted as an ad hominem attack.

    Still, the question remains: Why would whatabout edit an existing comment already set in place, knowing that it will screw up the order of the thread when someone else has posted another comment/reply after him? Wouldn't it be much easier and more logical simply to post an additional comment in the proper order -- respecting the sequential integrity of the thread -- if he felt the need to further explain his position? Imagine what a confusing jumble of disjointed responses and replies and thoughts that the comment section of this blog would become if everyone employed the same tactic of editing that whatabout has. How could a hapless reader who comes by to visit make any sense of such a hodgepodge of gibberish? Or is that the point?

  • How Do We Pry the Confederate Monuments Out Of Trump's Tiny Hands?   4 weeks 6 days ago
  • How Do We Pry the Confederate Monuments Out Of Trump's Tiny Hands?   4 weeks 6 days ago

    Moderator,

    I ask again that you do something with your posters that continually attack or complain about other posters because they do not agree with their point of view.

    Mr/Ms. Deepspace being a prime example.

    Everyone can clearly see I duly noted my edited post hours later after hearing Thom's show and the reason I did so was to point out that Thom was agreeing with me that the tearing down of statues of our American history was a blatant attempt to erase the fact it ever happened. My edit kept everything in my post in context. If some posters were not so busy posting ad hominem attacks that would be very apparent to them.

    As for posters whining and complaining about editing or having a polite contrary opinion to that of our host which I understand is within the rules, I find their actions by attacking the opinions of others to be a childish cry for attention and that is specifically against the rules as you have clearly pointed out to that individual in the past.

    Please take up this matter with the offending individual and just a note to anyone here with their panties in a wad, if I edit any of my posts it will be noted and for a reason that is apparent to all but those who constantly raise their hand shouting "pick me first, pick me first".

    Thank you Moderator for your prompt attention to this request.

    Happy Fourth of July everybody and remember the flags go up at sunrise and come down at sunset unless they are lighted.

  • How Do We Pry the Confederate Monuments Out Of Trump's Tiny Hands?   4 weeks 6 days ago

    whatabout skipped his comment ahead, flipping #s 4 and 5 so that they are now out of logical order, by editing it rather than just posting a new comment, which would have kept the posts in the proper sequence. Several hours had passed between his original post and his edit job, which also significantly changed the content, so it was obviously done on purpose to confuse readers. How childish -- the petty tactic of an intellectually dishonest troll, who can't defend his own words when challenged.

  • Will America Recover from the Rightwing Billionaire's War Against Us?   4 weeks 6 days ago

    Greed is good!

  • How Do We Pry the Confederate Monuments Out Of Trump's Tiny Hands?   4 weeks 6 days ago

    @Legend

    Chinese civil war at 1940? Are you sure? I just checked wikipedia: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Civil_War

    The CCW was civil war "lasting intermittently between 1927 and 1949". Neither armistice,nor peace treaty. Legally still debatable if it has been ended. Go figure out who won.

    Presumably, (please correct me if wrong), you believe "communism" is defacto Evil, and trying to "prove" it a posteriori, by implying that the "Good" side, i.e. the side fighting "communism" won, is simply a cyclic kind of argument, which may satisfy your beliefs, but for some others proves nothing.

  • How Do We Pry the Confederate Monuments Out Of Trump's Tiny Hands?   4 weeks 6 days ago

    @ 5 Agreed!!

    Why tear them down? IMO, leave them defaced, and put up a larger plaque explaining the truth, and why they're defaced, and not worthy of praise.

    Instead of vandalism, it could be a learning moment for someone.

  • The Russia bounty scandal shows how close Trump is to destroying America altogether   4 weeks 6 days ago

    Bounties on troops? Even if true, did we(USA), not hire and supply Osama to kill Russian troops in Afghanistan? "What goes around, comes around", no whining please!!

    Currently, our biggest problem is COVID-45!!

  • How Do We Pry the Confederate Monuments Out Of Trump's Tiny Hands?   4 weeks 6 days ago

    Thom, I am always mystified by the left's attempts to erase or adjust the parts of history they don't personally accept as fact.

    I do understand that in some people's eyes statues and monuments can be offensive but I think a more rational and adult approach might be the addition of a large plaque placed right beside the offending statue or monument stating why some people find them objectionable.

    On the flip side, I would love to get your position on the destruction or removal of say, MLK monuments all over the country.

    Fools and uninformed children support the removal of the parts of our countries history just because they are unhappy with their presence. They happened, and rather than being destructive, how about growing up and make better choices such as understanding that was part of who we have become today and the process will continue to evolve.

    Being afraid of statues or monuments is a terrible way to go through life.

    A quick edit and thank you for at about the 54-minute mark in hour two of your show today, did I hear you say you want selected statues torn down and melted, the concrete bases broken up and then erased or wiped from history forever?

    I was driving at the time but I will try to find your exact words online. If I am correct, you just drove home the point I was making in my post. If I am in error, I apologize in advance.

  • Will Democrats Turn Out Enough Votes this Fall to Overwhelm the Republican Anti-Democracy Machine?   5 weeks 1 hour ago

    I worry that Biden will blunder his way into losing to the orange clown. He should take a page from the Republican playbook and have every answer rehearsed since it doesn't matter if the answer exactly matches the question.

  • Why Impeaching Bill Barr is More Urgent Now Than Ever   5 weeks 1 hour ago

    Speaking of impeachment, was Kavanagh under oath in his confirmation hearing when he said he would support stare decisis?

  • How Do We Pry the Confederate Monuments Out Of Trump's Tiny Hands?   5 weeks 2 hours ago

    Ignorance is not necessarily stupidity; willful ignorance certainly is. The content above demonstrates that quite explicitly. Racism is a learned behavior, an instilled attitude drilled into the immature minds of young children who don't have the mental capacity, the life experience, or the wisdom to resist.

    As these childish bigots grow into damaged adults, the hateful indoctrination they endured in their tender years remains an integral part of a truly retarded thought process, which usually lingers throughout their pathetic lives in one form or another. Regardless of how it may be shrouded in sleazy language that feigns respectability and acceptance, a faux intellectualism, it will always be painfully visible in its raw form to those wise and experienced enough to see through the pitiful attempts to conceal it -- especially to those who are the generational victims of hate and bigotry.

    The abject racism on full display here is the coin of their realm. Such immature fools should not preach to others what it means to be an adult, as it reveals their own immaturity and foolishness for all to witness -- an unconscious projection attributed to others who challenge them. The logical fallacies shamelessly proffered above assume anti-racists are merely "unhappy" or "afraid" or "destructive" or lacking a "rational approach."

    The tell is contained in the second paragraph of post #4: "I do understand that in some people's eyes statues and monuments can be offensive [...] why some people find them objectionable." [bold italics mine] In other words, a reader must assume that the writer of such disgusting garbage does not find monuments that glorify racism offensive or objectionable himself. It's just, you know, those "other" people who do -- those "colored" people, and anyone who may empathize with them.

    While in the Army, I lived in Germany for 18 months and, gee, failed to notice any monuments to Nazism and fascism -- exactly what our "Greatest Generation" fought against! Go figure. Have Germans failed in their own "understanding that was part of who [they] have become today"? Certainly not! Most of them (not all) fully understand that it is highly destructive for a society to glorify the horrible mistakes of the past; consequently, they teach their children a better way -- not to hate -- in "the process [that] will continue to evolve."

    It's too bad that in our country we have so many willfully ignorant fools who are too immature to evolve. Hopefully, Trumpism is their last hurrah when the Racist in Chief is at last relegated to the dust bin of history come November.

    Destroying Confederate monuments isn’t ‘erasing’ history. It’s learning from it.
    Defenders of the memorials are the ones trying to forget the past.

  • How Do We Pry the Confederate Monuments Out Of Trump's Tiny Hands?   5 weeks 11 hours ago

    #1. The good side does not always win. Chinese Civil War in the 40's is an example.

  • How Do We Pry the Confederate Monuments Out Of Trump's Tiny Hands?   5 weeks 14 hours ago

    "Racism is all he's got." -- Amanda Marcotte

    The disgusting MAGATs are going all-in on hate. Never mind the pandemic and the economy -- this is war! White privilege is at stake!

  • How Do We Pry the Confederate Monuments Out Of Trump's Tiny Hands?   5 weeks 16 hours ago

    IWhy is a civil war a war between Good and Evil? And how come the soldiers of the good side always win?

    Is a successful revolution the triumph of the Good and a failed one the failure of Evil (simply a revolt)? Corollary: Whose triumph is the Russian revolution ( concluded in 1923, after 6 years)?Good's? Evil's? Or it depends on the eye (mind) of the Beholder?

  • How Do We Prevent Trump Loving Republicans From Reinventing Themselves?   5 weeks 1 day ago

    Another one is gone at the Wholesome all American Fox News.

  • How Do We Prevent Trump Loving Republicans From Reinventing Themselves?   5 weeks 1 day ago

    The mainstream media is owned and operated by the 1%. A very conservative right wing group. It steers the political agenda in America. The deck was set against the likes of Bernie because he wants to get money out of politics. The, as you call it, MSM benefits off of the Billions in political ads. They want money in politics. One of many articles: They put Trump in office with countless hours of free TV time. The head of CBS "Leslie Moonves on Donald Trump: "It May Not Be Good for America, but It's Damn Good for CBS"".

    The only person that is pretending is you.

  • How Do We Prevent Trump Loving Republicans From Reinventing Themselves?   5 weeks 1 day ago

    Of course Trump is Hitler.

    Look at the all newspaper editors he has liquidated. Look at how every MSM outlet pumps out propaganda praising him. Look at how only pro-Trump propaganda is allowed on social media. Look at how he has murdered all his political opponents. Look how he has initiated a world war. Look how he has invaded his neighbors. Look at how Trump is burning books on campuses and banning professors who oppose him. Look at how he has established Trump youth camps all around the nation. Look at how he has begun liquidating minorities in death camps. Look around you, we are in Nazi Germany aren't we?

    People should read The Rise and Fall of Third Reich by William Shirer, it would help them with a little thing called reality. One side has iron fisted control of the universities, rising control of primary schools, absolute control of Silicon Valley, absolute control of the MSM, control of the bureaucracy, increasing control of corporations, etc.... that side is not Trump or the Republicans. The bottom line is that only one side is trying to impede my access to information and that side is not Trump or the Republicans.

    Time to stop pretending.

  • How Do We Prevent Trump Loving Republicans From Reinventing Themselves?   5 weeks 1 day ago

    When all the bad news is sifted out, there is that nugget of good news that glitters in the black sand at the bottom of the pan. Every election cycle proves that what the People think and feel is much more valuable than what politicians think and feel.

    "Hope springs eternal in the human breast." -- Alexander Pope

    That's why billionaires spend their billions to get their political and media mouthpieces to influence how we think and feel, to make us empathize with their interests rather than our own. The greatest fear of the wealthy elite is that we will no longer believe in their cause, that we will no longer cede our power to them.

    Sure, it took an exceedingly rare impeachment of a fascist leader, a once-a-century deadly pandemic and economic upheaval; and perhaps more importantly, it took 400 years of bigotry, slavery, persecution, and the genocide of black people, the persecution and genocide of Native Americans, the persecution, hard labor, and massive die-off of Orientals building the railroads out West, and the degradation, alienation, assimilation, and dilution of Hispanics and their culture at every turn -- it took all of that sad history to finally boil over within an amazingly short period of time, in just six months, to maybe, hopefully, wake up white people enough to join the protest, to redress our collective grievances and to effect real change without fear of punishment or reprisal.

    Is it possible that we are having another pivotal, once-a-century, Franklin D. Roosevelt moment where we "welcome their hatred" -- those evil forces that have created "government by organized money" that "is just as dangerous as government by organized mob"?

  • How Do We Prevent Trump Loving Republicans From Reinventing Themselves?   5 weeks 1 day ago

    Also note the conversion from "Sagebrush Rebellion" to conservationists. Senators Cory Gardner (Colorado) and Steve Daines (Montana), who have led the way in selling off public lands and opening them for drilling and mining, and are up for re-election this year and co-sponsored legislation that, among other things, funds the National Parks.

  • How Do We Prevent Trump Loving Republicans From Reinventing Themselves?   5 weeks 1 day ago

    Incidentally, when did the po-faced sycophant Pence grow a pair?

    Can't be far off getting fired for the mask statement

  • How Do We Prevent Trump Loving Republicans From Reinventing Themselves?   5 weeks 1 day ago

    Nice to think that Replicans may have found ability to desert Trump treachery

    Taken a little while to start!

    Wonder when these zombies might join humanity?

    Not holding breath

  • How Do We Prevent Trump Loving Republicans From Reinventing Themselves?   5 weeks 1 day ago

    Thom, you forgot to mention that they are also beholden to wealth. They do whatever is convenient for their funding masters. Given that these are descendants of slave owning wealthy, their tactics and mentality are exactly what is needed to rob wealth and feed it into the never closing mouth of the 1%. Their motive has never been the welfare of the nation but the looting of it.

  • The Russia bounty scandal shows how close Trump is to destroying America altogether   5 weeks 1 day ago

    If whatabout is now commandeering the moniker "whatajoke" he still doesn't have a legitimate complaint, as I was attacking what was said, which is fair game, not a specific person who might have said it. And why does he think that what was said was referring to what he said in particular? Guilt by association? Any MAGAT is the butt of the joke.

    Again, an opinion that is not sourced is by definition a worthless opinion ...in my opinion.

    And in my opinion, flaming liars and those who spread the lies are as bad as flaming racists when their lies and hate cause people to die. Trump's lies, and those promulgated by his blind followers, have now led to almost 130,000 dead Americans, not just the hidden deaths of American soldiers in Afganistan. MAGATs are disgusting liars and deserve all the ridicule and scorn that can be heaped upon them. They are tearing this country apart.

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    Here's how Thom handled a flaming racist (6-24-2020; hour 2; min 24:07):

    caller: I want segregation. I don't want black peoples in our schools. Um, they...

    Thom: Yeah, Markus, that is, you know, ah... You're a fool, an ass, a disgrace! As an American, you are spitting, Markus, in the face of people who have fought and died for this country for hundreds of years, or at least the ideals that they expressed or said that they embraced, even if they did it imperfectly or even badly or even not at all.

    That kind of rhetoric, Markus, is what people who hate America say. That kind of rhetoric is the stuff that you hear out of the white supremacists' fever swamps in Poland and Hungary. That kind of rhetoric is poison. That kind of rhetoric is the stuff that gets people killed -- and is getting people killed right now! We've had a number of white supremacists expressing the opinions that you just said, Markus, kill people in the United States.

    Markus, you're disgusting!

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    Lying MAGATs are disgusting. So are sniveling cowards and tattletales who can't defend what they say.

  • The Russia bounty scandal shows how close Trump is to destroying America altogether   5 weeks 1 day ago

    Moderator, one of our "guests" cannot contain themselves and is at it again.

    ***********************************************************deepspace1 hour 59 min ago#5

    As usual, whatajoke has absolutely nothing to back up, by definition, a worthless opinion. "Make America Great Again Trumpee" (MAGAT)

    ***********************************************************

    I believe you said personal attacks are forbidden. I assume you will follow through with your previous warning to the offender.

    Thank you.

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    SueN2 weeks 4 days ago#5

    No, it's not OK.

    Please keep it civil, everyone. If not, you will be booted. You have been warned!

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