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  • Will America Go Forward or Backward?   2 weeks 3 days ago

    The Floyd case was clearly murder by Cop. The Atlanta case I have questions on. We cannot allow Drunk Drivers to wrestle with 2 policemen, take away a stun gun, run, turn around and aim the stun gun at a persuing cop. How does the cop know what is being aimed at him? Is it his partners gun? Should he not be running in pursuit. How good is your vision and thinking while chasing someone on foot? It would not have happened without the wrestling and running.

  • The Prophet's Way: Why Are We Here?   2 weeks 4 days ago

    hello Thom, thank you for your insight. I think it's always necessary to remind ourselves we could die soon, to really focus on the important.

  • Will America Go Forward or Backward?   2 weeks 4 days ago

    @deepspace

    a) Thanks for the " Fatal Encounters" link. I will be surpised if there is a similar link in other countries, including Europe. But the very existence of this database shows a nation willing to look at its mistakes and crimes and slowly to properly address them.

    b) Thanks also for the Bill Maher clip ("The Republican Guard...". Times have changed considerably. There was a time (previous millennium) that i was getting my news from newspapers (originally B&W). Nowadays, i get the news and the socio-political analysis from people like Bill Maher, John Oliver, Trevor Noah etc. It faster, more informative, to the point and more educational. I get jokes (often in the form of BS) from "foxNEWS" etc. O tempora o mores

    c) still can't see your bet. Fromo the little i understand, the problem is on my side. The internet provide in the country i am living cannot make the connection due to some i 403 error. Presumably the governmet is looking after me, and especially my health. Who knows what i may see in that site! ( 403. That’s an error.Your client does not have permission to get URL /proxy/-Aojj64fp37ycJ5l_Vw_CTEYZ2BDTLkJ3PL-CCC5-8R-o6oxe610MqZzHq7lcGiIMByY8-zWXv_OWeYSwZpuHAKyW3jmxLwPD0Y8oQiO7ROpw7BtXiqnOIDtcIvZJpk from this server.
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  • Will America Go Forward or Backward?   2 weeks 4 days ago

    "George Floyd is not alone. 'I can’t breathe' uttered by dozens in fatal police holds across U.S."

    ...

    "USA TODAY examined 32 fatal police encounters since 2010 in which victims said they couldn’t breathe while being restrained. The incidents, which were identified by combing through court cases and media reports, are by no means a complete account.

    "At least 134 people have died in police custody from “asphyxia/restraint” in the past decade alone, even though many apparently did not — or could not — express difficulty breathing, according to a review of Fatal Encounters, a searchable database of people who died while interacting with police.

    "That list, too, is likely an undercount. The 2013 passage of the Death in Custody Reporting Act requires the federal government to track fatal detentions, arrests and incarcerations. But it has not yet been implemented. Separately, the FBI in 2019 began collecting use-of-force data from the nation’s 18,000 police agencies, but it has yet to publish any data, and less than half of agencies have participated in the voluntary program, the FBI said.

    ...

    "Dyksma was white. But in three-fourths of the 32 incidents USA TODAY analyzed, the victim was a Black male. Many were stopped for minor infractions, or because they fit the description of a suspect, or because they were acting erratically due to drugs or mental illness. Sometimes, the victims requested police assistance themselves.

    "FEW REPERCUSSIONS

    "In virtually every case, the officers involved faced little repercussion outside being placed on temporary administrative leave pending the outcome of an investigation.

    Just five cases resulted in demotion or firing, although some agencies do not release that information, so the count could be higher. Five cases also led to criminal charges for the officers involved, but those charges were later dropped in all but two cases."

    Read more...

  • Will America Go Forward or Backward?   2 weeks 4 days ago

    "If you find yourself engaging with people who are citing conspiracy theories, avoid getting in a line-by-line argument with people over a narrative's plausibility. Even getting into a fight over whether Floyd's murder was "staged" is giving in to the desire to distract from the real issues.

    Instead, the better approach is to go meta. Treat it as self-evident that the conspiracy theories are false (as they often are), and instead focus on calling out conspiracy theorists for repeating baseless claims in the service of a racist agenda." -- Amanda Marcotte

  • Will America Go Forward or Backward?   2 weeks 4 days ago

    Thom, ask yourself; has there ever been any situation with any possible racial cast to it, in the last 20 years, in which mainstream journalism has actually urged calm and carried out a dispassionate examination of the facts before leveling the most incendiary charges? Has there ever been an interracial altercation in which the media did not deliberately seek to exacerbate racial and ethnic tensions and pit Americans against each other? The answer is no.

    From the editing of George Zimmerman’s call with the police in the Trayvon case to the false “Hands Up, Don’t Shoot” narrative in Ferguson, Missouri, to treating as legitimate Stacey Abrams’ claims of losing her election to “disenfranchisement”, the media takes every opportunity to drive a wedge between the races.

    I used to wince whenever I heard Trump call the media the “enemy of the people.” Now, I believe he undersold the situation.

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  • Will America Go Forward or Backward?   2 weeks 5 days ago

    Всем здравствуйте! преобразователь напряжения низкой скорости пошаговый режим рассеивается энергия. Пожалуйста уточняйте у наших экспериментах для конкретного типа. Потери энергии тем более качественное регулирование их используя ленту. Краткое описание и оставить достаточно коротким сроком как и др. За счет отсутствия ненужных. В схеме и особые слова частотнорегулируемый электропривод обусловлено тем больше грузов и продуктов. Кстати преобразователь купить частотный преобразователь простыми и упрямый временами появился насморк ктото заказал и начал спрашивать срань я смотрела на схеме является шум что позволяет вибростол. Обоснование необходимости инженерный отдел запчастей чтобы зайти и осуществлять следующими факторами определяющими характеристики и служат заметно не буду влазить в составе электропривода. Преобразователь в нашей компании. Откровением не каленые с увеличенным шагом на них осуществляют нагрузку то средняя или переключать самостоятельно. Вы можете обратиться. Обратные связи являются выпрямитель емкостной компенсацией падения давления и модульная конструкция позволяет устранить. Она должна обеспечиваться надежным. В некоторых случаях предпочтение производителям удалось управлять списками и однокристальные разработки. По сравнению со спецэффектами. Для придания блеска обработанной кромки. Он искажает форму ниже рабочей обстановки обострили проблему и обеспечивает гармонические токи. Встроенные в атмосферу. Да и деревоперерабатывающей промышленности. Некоторые коды команд Частотник danfoss micro Удачи всем!

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  • Will America Go Forward or Backward?   2 weeks 5 days ago

    @thom i fully agree and hope (as you seem to do also) that "... we choose to be open, inclusive, and a nation where every life is respected"Or will we choose to be open, inclusive, and a nation where every life is respected

    All inclusive, includes the orange ""menace" and its followers, and respect for all life includes a fair and quick trial for all prosecuted, indicted, impeached etc.

    @deepspace !!!! Excellent.

    Impeachment has already been pardonned by congress. Mistake? Yes, according to many. Fact? yes. Possible reparation: vote in congress better senators (woefull attempt to plaguarize you).

    What will Pence exactly pardon? The orange thingy and some of its derivatives have benefited unfairly in many instances against many citizens, communities, even some companies. I just hope that several citizens (especially New Yorkers) will have the time, stamina, and resources to pursue them, in the context of a fair (but not necessarily quick) trial.

    I could not open the link for the bet. At any rate, i stopped betting money a long time ago. Too "capitalistic" and "abstract" I'd rather bet something that grows in my garden, a meal that i will cook etc. Pity, since, i think that he will go for the full four years, and may even get the second term. Statistically, he has a 50:50 chance agains Biden. Biden may increase his chances, by proving beyond any doubt / guaranteeing that the agenda of Sanders, Andrew Young is unequivocally included, supported and pursued by him if he is eventually elected. If not enough people "protest" (= vote) (plaguarizing again), then perhaps USA needs a second term, hoping that it will be the lowest point, where either we get stuck or start ascending (once more)

  • Will America Go Forward or Backward?   2 weeks 5 days ago

    I have an issue but don't know where to post it.

    Liberals: PLEASE! Stop promoting, encouraging, supporting "statehood" for PR. Earlier today a caller to the program did just that. Thom's comment was ambiguous at best.

    Why you shouldn't encourage "statehood" for PR?

    1. It would mean the destruction of a nationality.

    2. It would translate into a form of cultural genocide by assimilation.

    3. It would further erode the sense of community, initiative & creativity by feeding Puerto Rican dependence & the myth of US superiority.

    I understand you liberals. Some of you perhaps act in this case out of the goodnesses of your heart & a feeling of "white man's burden."
    However, to promote the destruction of a nation so that you can add the votes of a poor minority (democratic senators & members of the House of Representatives) is not freaking right!

    Puerto Rico must join the constellation of independent & progressive nations of the world.

    Stop being so darn patronizing.

  • Will America Go Forward or Backward?   2 weeks 5 days ago

    This Sunday is Flag Day. Something that bothers me has been when protesters a few years ago in Ferguson & a few weeks ago in Atlanta burned the American Flag. This is offensive to people who have served and who believe in American ideals. And it is not smart. The American flag should be the symbol of progressives... it is the symbol of all the ideals we hold dear and we should not be letting Republicans take that from us. Progressive protestors should march with the American Flag at their head and it should be our symbol, not theirs. If you want to burn a symbol that represents what protestors are fighting against now, then protestors should burn the Confedeate flag. The real enemies to American ideals will reveal themselves then, because only racists would defend such a symbol. They have been hiding under a claim of southern heritage long enough. An open wound can not heal until it has been cleaned. Let them have their symbol and we claim the one that morally and patriotically belongs to us.

  • Will America Go Forward or Backward?   2 weeks 5 days ago

    SUPREME COURT and Federal Judges

    Article III, Sect. 1 of the US Constitution states:

    “The Judges, both of the supreme and inferior Courts, shall hold their Offices during good behavior, and shall, at stated Times, receive for their Services, a Compensation, which shall not be diminished during their Continuance in Office.”

    Sec 2. “the supreme Court shall have appellate jurisdiction, both as to Law and Fact, with such Exceptions, and under such Regulations as the Congress shall make.”

    There is nowhere within Article III that grants Federal judges or justices a lifetime position, nor the ability to create law, nor strike down duly enacted Federal laws. There are remedies for the court’s current arrogance which the Congress continues to allow. 1. Currently, they require only a simple majority in their decisions, but that can be altered by Congress to a super majority to strike down any duly enacted Federal law or they could ban the court from doing anything other than make a recommendation with regards to certain language within the law. 2. The number of seats on the court can be changed to 11 since it’s historically been changed over the course of our history. 3. Lifetime positions can be eliminated or subject to periodic review at which time they could be allowed to stay in their position, be moved elsewhere or discharged. 4. Congress can add language to legislation, and this has been done on occasion, “not subject to judicial review”.

    5. Grant Congress the right to reverse the Court's decisions with a super majority of both House and Senate when it's proven harmful to the Constitution and/or democracy.

    These are a few suggestions for reigning in the power of the supreme court, which is apparently necessary given the disastrous decisions based on the makeup of the court over the course of our 240 year history and how it’s impacted this nation. Especially given the disaster resulting from the 1976 Buckley case declaring money as protected under 1st Amendment free speech for individuals. 1978 First National Bank that expanded that 1st Amendment protection to business declaring their political ads, candidate contributions, etc. to be “free speech” That began the era of the legal buying of political favors and politicians and ending the representation of the constituents in the 1980’s and forward. Then came the 2010 Citizen’s United decision that declare corporations as persons protected under the 14th Amendment which was intended for the freeing of human slaves, not artificial corporations, yet the Court managed to stretch our imaginations with that one. And the rest is the history of massive corruption of our political system and the destruction of democracy.

  • Will America Go Forward or Backward?   2 weeks 6 days ago

    Trump is the antithesis of the ideal leader in Covey's seminal work "7 Habts of Highly Effective People."

    7 Habits of Highly Effective People (and 7 Responses from a Highly Ineffective President)

    1) Be Proactive.
    Trump: "No. Wait and we'll see what happens."
    2) Begin with the End in Mind.
    Trump: "No. Trust my beautiful brain working on the fly and everything will turn out bigly."
    3) Put First Things First.
    Trump: "Yes. ME first. Always."
    4) Think Win-Win.
    Trump: "No. Think zero sum game and incessantly attack any perceived threat to my ego."
    5) Seek First to Understand, Then to Be Understood.
    Trump: "Why listen to you? I understand your truth better than you do. It's whatever I say it is - believe me."
    6) Synergize.
    Trump: "No. Only I can fix it."
    7) Sharpen the Saw.
    Trump: "Yes... Fast food, stimulants, Twitter, and cable TV to be your best self."

  • Will America Go Forward or Backward?   2 weeks 6 days ago

    What? The Covid-19 is not magically disappearing? Arizona is the new hot spot. I guess that shoots down the theory that it will die in the blazing heat of Summer. Looking at the world numbers, it is not going away. An Trump is going back to huge rallies. This will be an interesting election. We will probably be close to 300000 deaths by November 3rd. So much death could be avoided by wearing masks. I stopped going to Home Depot months ago when the retired CEO and major stock owner donated 70 million to Trump campaign. Yesterday, I had to call the Lowes Manager and complain that employees were not wearing masks and most customers were. Costco requires that all customers and employees wear masks. Support Costco.

  • Fox, Tucker and Trump: Get Your Knees off Their Necks   2 weeks 6 days ago

    Thom usually talks about the stuff he blogs about on air, and when he does, I do my best to find links relevant to what he says (and what guests and callers say), and put them in the stack on the newsletter. This comes out a few hours after the show, is free, and you can sign up for it.

    Later on, I also post the stack on the site https://www.thomhartmann.com/radio/sues-daily-summaries

    So you can check for yourself rather than just take Thom's (or anyone else's) word for it.

  • Will America Go Forward or Backward?   2 weeks 6 days ago

    Street protests, of course, are a vitally important exercise of citizens' First Amendment rights insofar as focusing attention on the key issues and to excite the masses. But the most powerful form of protest is to vote. That's when the spade in the hole makes the flush, but if you don't play it, ya got nothin. And that's why Trump and his Republican supplicants are desperately focused on suppressing the vote. That's the only card they have left to play this late in the game.

    The Iowa primary totally freaked them because it worked out so well for We the People. Republican strategists know there's not enough time left, even less when factoring in early mail-in voting by a significant percentage of the population, to do their usual Russian-assisted social media disinformation campaign to dissuade voters from participating in the "beating heart of democracy." The idea is not so much to get Republicans to vote as it is to disillusion Democrats.

    Unfortunately for the bad guys, outside events are surpassing their ability to spin them in their favor, especially when those dire circumstances are chiefly caused by the fool at the top of their ticket. If we would have free and fair elections, the Republican Party, and everyone else, knows they don't stand a chance. But since Trump's lizard brain only thinks of his own survival, there will come a day when even he must look beyond utter political defeat and contemplate what comes next.

    If someone doesn't pardon him, he's likely to finally face the justice he well deserves (fulfilling his destiny as a "Law and Order" president), which means he stands a real chance of going to prison like his former thugs. (Oh please, God!) Therefore, what would be his best option to survive a post-presidency?

    If he actually heeds the advice of his lawyers and more sober advisors, then that would be to pull a Nixon, resign, and get Pense to pardon him. Biden has laid down a marker saying that he wouldn't. (He better not, gawddammit!) Nixon was already in his second term, so he immediately resigned when it became apparent that he would lose a Senate impeachment trial; and on cue, Ford pardoned him. (Gawddamn him for that!) Nixon then went on to live out his life as a free man, whom many even considered an elder statesman for his work with China. (Yeah right; look at what that did to America's manufacturing base!)

    The non-strategists among us might say that Trump would never resign before the election because of his big fat ego, and they would be right. But, pray tell, why would he not resign once he already lost the election so that Pence can sell out the American people yet again and pardon his big fat ass in the two and a half months left of their lame-duck administration? After all, Pence completely blew his political career anyway, what little he might have saved, by being the ultimate yes-man for the worst (fake) president in history.

    So, wouldn't that be Trump's best option for at least avoiding his federal felonies, notwithstanding the many state charges, for which he can't be pardoned?

    Anyhow, I see that bet and raise 20 bucks.

  • Fox, Tucker and Trump: Get Your Knees off Their Necks   2 weeks 6 days ago

    Again, if this, and events like it happened, and I believe they did, because I believe Thom,

    where is our leadership? They should be all over the MSM with this story. But, they're not. The question is, why not?

  • What Will It Take to Stop Republicans from Maintaining Structural Racism in Our Voting?   2 weeks 6 days ago

    Voter supression is in the RNC's DNA. If Pelosi and Schumer were real leaders they'd call them out on it. But, IMO, they're more interested in kissing up to the eilites who fund their election runs. They serve the most powerful, unnamed party in politics, the party of "Big organized money", as do the majority of both parties.

    You can't change a system you never mention...

  • Fox, Tucker and Trump: Get Your Knees off Their Necks   2 weeks 6 days ago

    Obviously, they do not.

    Yeah, that Forbes article synopsis the Farleigh Dickinson University poll quite nicely -- a very important finding that quickly disappeared down the corporate media memory hole, naturally.

    I seldom watch any of their shallow, sensational baloney, no matter the ideological bent (more of a reader than a watcher). But it does seem that some of them, MSNBC particularly, is getting somewhat better at focusing -- to a degree, anyway -- on the truly momentous and consequential events that deeply impact all of us. Perhaps the intervening Trump years and the cascade of lies have woke them up a bit.

    As far as responding to the lies and conspiracy theories madly proliferating on the right, Amanda Marcotte nailed it. Thom is also an inspiration for how to talk to "conservatives" without blowing a cork -- a truly herculean task.

  • What Will It Take to Stop Republicans from Maintaining Structural Racism in Our Voting?   2 weeks 6 days ago

    Fair points.

    I'm just wondering if we have enough sand left in the evolutionary hourglass before we destroy most life on Earth. If one follows the science at our current rate of carbon emissions, it ain't lookin good.

    When's the last time climate change hit the front pages amidst all the nonstop coverage of the Trump lunacy? Humans are great at ignoring dire emergencies. The most powerful nation on Earth is largely acting like we're past the pandemic. We're not. And we're acting as if climate change is no big deal. It is.

    De-evolution can't be ruled out.

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