Nations with universal healthcare since these nations ration healthcare do people have the option to buy private health insuran

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Nations with universal healthcare since these nations ration healthcare do people have the option to buy private health insurance ?

liberalprogressivedemocrat's picture
Apr. 20, 2010 6:28 pm


Who rations health care aside from fascist nations?

Apr. 9, 2010 12:51 pm

People who pay for private insurance wind up paying double. Once for the public option, again for the private option. Its the same sort of complaints you get out of middle class parents who send their children to private schools, or couples without children. These issues really are legitimate but are dismissed because the topic is impolitic.

There's really no reason why a healthcare plan has to be passed through government. If the democrats want a specific healthcare plan, they can get together and all sign up for it. Forcing everyone to pay in is an act of aggression. For consistency, any supporter of universal healthcare must also support my right to rob people to pay for my medical bills.

Anyway, the issue isn't really that consumers of healthcare are organized inefficiently and need to be put under one big plan. Its that protectionist regulation raises prices and decreases quality in our healthcare markets. See here.

In short, this is nothing new. Government policies attempt to treat the symptoms rather than the causes of dysfunctional markets, a particularly ironic strategy for healthcare. Practically every piece of healthcare legislation was passed in the interests of providers, not consumers. They are lobbying as hard as they can to gaurantee government provision of healthcare, because it will mean a continuous and uninterrupted stream of revenue for their state enforced cartels.

As always, American politics has been ideologically co opted by the interests of big business. Resist the State.

Sieben's picture
May. 13, 2010 12:07 pm

Health care is already rationed in the U.S. Priority is given to those with the highest incomes. Homeless Joe can die from the injuries incurred when he was hit by a car in the ER waiting for the docs to get done with Mrs. Richguy's nosejob. Happens every day. Would universal health care be worse? In Canada, for example, at least they would put off the nosejob to save Joe's life.

drew013's picture
Jul. 31, 2007 3:01 pm

do you beg every question?

babbaramma's picture
Apr. 6, 2010 5:21 pm

Thom has repeatedly pointed out that you can buy private health insurance in Europe. It is just that their health insurance companies are required to be non-profit. Would you prefer that your healthcare be rationed by a public employee of the Health department with the stated goal of improving people's well-being or by a faceless bureaucrat in a for-profit insurance company whose ONLY goal is making money? And speaking of rationing - how about the cost rationing aspect? Would you prefer the cost be spread as evenly as possible with minimal overhead or still be concentrated on the sick and at-risk according to the wishes of those whose goal must be to line their pockets and pockets of their shareholders?

Try this line of reasonong: If the body is a temple then the for-profit insurance companies are the money changers in the temple... WWJD? Drive them out violently.... they will not leave of their own accord or if just asked nicely.

LeMoyne's picture
Jul. 31, 2007 3:01 pm

So you think You'll Get a Tax Break, or tax cut? Really?

A letter was sent out recently by the American Medical Association, the American Hospital Association, the American Academy of Family Physicians.

You're not hearing Breitbart News or Common Dreams - right or left - organizations or news sites with a point of view other than that they are committed to healing people.

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