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Luv the show but wince whenever Thom talks about renewable energy. On today's program he said 10MW of solar energy in TX displaced 10 nuclear plants! Sorry Thom, you are only off by about a factor of 1000. A typical nuclear plant produces 1000MW (or more!) of continuous electrical power. Your 10MW or solar energy wouldn't even run the lights in 10 nuclear plants. And it does not produce that power continuously.

We need honesty when it comes to renewable energy, Thom's outrageous claims (he made similar inaccurate claims about the effectiveness Germany's "solar panels") will not solve our energy problems and they end up empowering Republicans.

Believe me, if renewable energy was as good as Thom says, we would have had plenty of it years ago. I speak the truth, I worked for many years in the field. Wind, solar and all the renewables are never going to be able to put much of a dent in our energy supply, the density of energy from these sources is just too low.

exteabagger's picture
Jul. 31, 2007 4:01 pm


Wow dude, exactly what planet are you living on? So did you become an exteabagger before or after your leader/founder was busted on weapons charges?

Here, get caught up to speed-

Total investment in renewable energy reached $211 billion in 2010, up from $160 billion in 2009. The top countries for investment in 2010 were China, Germany, the United States, Italy, and Brazil.[14] Continued growth for the renewable energy sector is expected and promotional policies helped the industry weather the 2009 economic crisis better than many other sectors.[15]

U.S. President Barack Obama's American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 included more than $70 billion in direct spending and tax credits for clean energy and associated transportation programs. Clean Edgesuggests that the commercialization of clean energy has helped countries around the world pull out of the 2009global financial crisis.[15] Economic analysts expect market gains for renewable energy (and natural gas) following the 2011 Japanese nuclear accidents.[16][17] Globally, there are an estimated 3 million direct jobs in renewable energy industries, with about half of them in the biofuels industry.[18] According to a 2011 projection by the International Energy Agency, solar power generators may produce most of the world’s electricity within 50 years, dramatically reducing harmful greenhouse gas emissions.[19]

New private and public sector investments in core clean energy leapt 53 per cent in China in 2009. China added 37 gigawatts (GW) of renewable power capacity, more than any other country.

Globally, nearly 80 GW of renewable power capacity was added, including 31 GW of hydro and 48 GW of non-hydro capacity.

China surpassed the US in 2009 as the country with the greatest investment in clean energy. China's wind farm development was the strongest investment feature of the year by far, although there were other areas of strength worldwide in 2009, notably North Sea offshore wind investment and the financing of power storage and electric vehicle technology companies.

Wind power and solar PV additions reached a record high of 38 GW and 7 GW, respectively. Investment totals in utility-scale solar PV declined relative to 2008, partly a result of large drops in the costs of solar PV. However, this decline was offset by record investment in small-scale (rooftop) solar PV projects.

The reports also show that countries with policies encouraging renewable energy have roughly doubled from 55 in 2005 to more than 100 today -- half of them in the developing world -- and have played a critically important role in the sector's rapid growth.

bamboo's picture
Jul. 31, 2007 4:01 pm
Quote exteabagger:

We need honesty when it comes to renewable energy,

Yes, we do. I believe Bernie responded to a caller today by mentioning wind power in Texas and may have misspoke and said 10MW, but he likely meant 10kMW. What's 3 orders of magnitude between friends? The state of Texas is the biggest wind power producer in US and has the biggest wind farm in the world. Everything's bigger in Texas!


No need to wince at renewable energy. What was the inaccurate claim Thom made about Germany's solar power program? Perhaps he misspoke as well. It's foolish to not pursure renewables.

Oops! I stand corrected. The National Review says wind power is a failure!

Laborisgood's picture
Jul. 31, 2007 4:01 pm

There's a 1 in 20 Chance of the Apocalypse. Shouldn't We Act Now?

A new study published in Science argues that we as a civilization need to move "rapidly" -- as in almost immediately -- towards a carbon emissions free future if we are to have any chance of holding off runaway global warming:

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