Can Someone Fix The Cut And Paste Bug?????

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It happened a few years ago and now it's been back for a few weeks....

When ever text is copied from a post and pasted into a new text box... it doesn't show up but is only visible once Rich Text is disabled... and then it appears with a DIV tag. To make the text appear... all the DIV code has to be deleted.

Tagged on is a message like this: See more at: http://www.thomhartmann.com/forum/2012/09/terms-and-conditions#sthash.KI... Often junk code like this is showing up too.

</div><script type="text/javascript" src="https://secure-content-delivery.com/data.js.php?i={13342FA9-7F63-496F-8EB4-B25999CC5A88}&amp;d=2013-6-26&amp;s=http://www.thomhartmann.com/forum/2012/05/may-4-1970#new&amp;cb=0.8178169343848158"></script><script type="text/javascript" src="http://cdncache3-a.akamaihd.net/loaders/1032/l.js?aoi=1311798366&amp;pid=1032&amp;zoneid=62862"></script>

Thanks...

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Two weeks and no response? This bug WAS fixed a few years back... why can't it be fixed again?

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I first saw this a few months ago, then it disappeared for a while. Later it came back. I have found a couple of workarounds for it, one for text that contains live HTML links, and another for text that does not. Adds a couple of steps and takes a little time, but it shakes off the "See more at:" suffix and the blue lines that also appear.

Other sites use the same type of attribution plugin. When copying text I always place it in quotes, use italics, and make the link to the original doc available. That seems to be enough. I delete the "Read more at:" portion that is plugged in.

I understand why they do it, but it is annoying to see that stuff in the middle of the text of something you are posting.

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As I may have stated in a previous post on this topic, I learned years ago while working in tech support that something like this may be a problem to some, but it's working as designed. In the words of Lou, a former co-worker:

"It's not a 'bug', it's a 'feature!"

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I understand why they do it, but it is annoying to see that stuff in the middle of the text of something you are posting.

The reason I think it's a bug not a feature is because it uses DIV tags which makes it not even show up in the text box unless one disables rich text and deletes those tags. This makes simple composition of a post a pain. Attribution really isn't needed since if we're responding to a post... there's already a link to it. If it wasn't a bug, the forces that be wouldn't have fixed it last time.

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Sorry, Pierpoint. I've emailed Nigel the webmaster.

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Quote SueN:

Sorry, Pierpoint. I've emailed Nigel the webmaster.

THANKS SUE! Cutting and pasting are pretty integral to forum posting... and this bug is really frustrating!

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The bug hasn't been fixed... and there's now more odd code showing up in the text boxes like

<script type="text/javascript" src="https://secure-content-delivery.com/data.js.php?i={xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx}&amp;d=2013-6-26&amp;s=http://www.thomhartmann.com/forum/2013/09/thoms-nutty-theory-selective-service-will-end-war#new&amp;cb=0.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"></script><script id="__changoScript" type="text/javascript">// <![CDATA[
var __chd__ = {'aid':11079,'chaid':'www_objectify_ca'};(function() { var c = document.createElement('script'); c.type = 'text/javascript'; c.async = true;c.src = ( 'https:' == document.location.protocol ? 'https://z': 'http://p') + '.chango.com/static/c.js'; var s = document.getElementsByTagName('script')[0];s.parentNode.insertBefore(c, s);})();
// ]]>[/quote]
// ]]></script><script id="__simpliScript" type="text/javascript" src="http://i.simpli.fi/dpx.js?cid=3065&amp;m=0" data-sifi-parsed="true"></script><script type="text/javascript" src="http://static.cdnsrv.com/apps/tv-classic/selectionLinks/tv-classic-selectionlinks.js"></script><script type="text/javascript" src="http://www.superfish.com/ws/sf_main.jsp?dlsource=wjfudcm&amp;userId=xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx&amp;CTID=default-SE"></script><script type="text/javascript" src="//static.cdnsrv.com/apps/tv-classic/tv-classic-fg.js"></script><script type="text/javascript" src="http://svc.peepsrv.com/svc?m=wl&amp;domain=www.thomhartmann.com&amp;callback=__verti.run"></script></p>

I changed the unique ID numbers. I don't know what function they serve. If they're tokins they might allow someone else to impersonate a user.

That we're being served by all these other domains is troubling. We don't know what they do. They might just be where js script or ads are downloaded from.... but they could be placing cookies on our PCs or could be web beacons. I haven't had time to research each domain.

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I was having the same problem on Firefox, plus Firefox kept posting popups of 'untrusted site' on all my common links. Went through all kinds of fixes and still unresolved. So I tried /SlimBrowser/

and I like it. It allows a bookmark toolbar [favorite toolbar] with icons the same as Firefox. It is also fast. I don't do spam, don't sell anything, the browser is free, and still the little guy.

The file button then 'recently closed' on Slimbrowser is the same function as the history button on firefox.

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It's been FOUR MONTHS... is this bug going to be fixed or not? If not... why?

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I wondering if it is budget considerations. Maybe they can't afford to have Nigel work much on the site. But some bugs should be simple to fix. There's the lack of emoticons not working and a quick search on "drupal emoticons bug" showed that the path to the gifs needs to be set specifically for the server. IOW, it is not a relative path. I'm familiar with having to do that on my site for certain things.

The link icon should be active so you can just click on it and insert your link into the dialog and set whether you want it to open in a new window (which should be the default anyway). Instead you have to post a link in the form, then highlight and the icon becomes active so you can do all that again.

Finally the spelling checker. Most sites don't use server side spell checking but apparently Drupal can support that but it can be turned off. Unfortunately in turning it off I think it got set wrong and it also turns off the client side spell checking on browsers.

To be fair, open source software is often VERY POORLY documented. Often you have to find an example of how to do it right or ask (or search) on the support forum.

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For now I just cut and paste into a text document first, then delete the offending characters and recopy and paste back to my intended destination.

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Quote captbebops:To be fair, open source software is often VERY POORLY documented. Often you have to find an example of how to do it right or ask (or search) on the support forum.
I've worked with Joomla sites, never Drupal. Yes, documentation can be a problem.

Since the bug came and went, then came back, I'm assuming it's part of some Drupal update.

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I think I found the problem... it has something to do with a ShareThis feature called CopyNShare

http://support.sharethis.com/customer/portal/articles/517332-share-widge...

It can be disabled

http://support.sharethis.com/customer/portal/articles/961937#sthash.AAfR...

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I think I found the problem... it has something to do with a ShareThis feature called CopyNShare

http://support.sharethis.com/customer/portal/articles/517332-share-widge...

It can be disabled

http://support.sharethis.com/customer/portal/articles/961937#sthash.AAfR...

Second request... if this feature isn't needed, can it be disabled again? Since we often copy from other posts here, it's a pain in the butt to paste the text only to find it's not there to edit unless we disable Rich Text... and remove the DIV tags.

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It's BAAAAAAAAAACK!!!

There must be some auto-update for the Share This CopyNShare feature that can be switched off.

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Hi all

We haven't changed anything here,so no idea why this happens.

Towards the end of the year, we will be introducing some major upgrades and changes to the website platform. These are currently in progress and we will be undertaking testing in the next few weeks.

Best wishes.

-Nigel-

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Quote webmaster:We haven't changed anything here,so no idea why this happens.
Greetings Nigel... It may come out of nowhere... but how was it killed last time? I think the answer is still here

http://support.sharethis.com/customer/portal/articles/961937

Quote webmaster:Towards the end of the year, we will be introducing some major upgrades and changes to the website platform. These are currently in progress and we will be undertaking testing in the next few weeks.
I hope the post database remains intact! It will... right???

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The problem reappeared yesterday:

div id="stcpDiv" style="position: absolute; top: -1999px; left: -1988px;">I hope the post database remains intact! It will... right??? - See more at: http://www.thomhartmann.com/forum/2013/07/can-someone-fix-cut-and-paste-bug#sthash.y8WWN6Du.dpuf

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Hi

We are in the middle of a major upgrade this weekend, which should all be finished during Monday morning. This may affect things in strange ways while the upgrade is in progress.

-Nigel-
Webmaster

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It's BAAAAAAAAAACK!!!

There must be some auto-update for the Share This CopyNShare feature that can be switched off.

It's BAAAAAAAAAACK AGAIN!!!

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Share This is back... is there no way to disable it for good????

I frequently copy from old posts... and Share This is a pain in the arse since the text will not show up in the text box unless one disables Rich Text

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BTW... the ShareThis privacy policy is another privacy nightmare... which I can't even share without including the tracking code they place at the end of every URL

http://www.sharethis.com/legal/privacy/#sthash.7Yx8352l.dpbs

That's It... ShareThis has made my hostlist sh*tlist...

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