The World 2014

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The Economist Magazine always publishes a year in review and predictions in a special edition in Dec. I have many from past years and since they are from an unbiased view [outside of US mega media bubble] it is worth a read or a purchase. Check it out at a Borders with a coffee or if you still have a library skim it and consider a purchase for your own library. I always liked it and didn't realize it was considered a conservative read. I still like it.

douglaslee's picture
Jul. 31, 2007 4:01 pm


Good suggestion.

Term 'conservative' got hijacked like a lot of other terms by those that choose to prosper from fomenting confusion.

Examples: There is nothing Conservative about blowing something up. That is the opposite of conserving it. [War is not a conservative act].

There is nothing conservative about allowing someone to poison the land (or the people) making it unusable / unproductive because it is wasteful which is anethma to being conservative.

Conservative and Democratic or Independent or Green or Peace are not mutually exclusive. Only the hijackers of the terminology would have us think so.

Rodger97321's picture
Jul. 31, 2007 4:01 pm

Yes, the irony of "conservation" being a progressive meme rather than something aligned with a cautious approach to change and disruption never ends. These are radicals, warmongers and economic expansionist heirs of pirates and colonial exploration and claim staking. They have no conservative policy other than the ridiculous idea that weak and ineffective govenment is good because Private Property will be free to work its magic in the Free Market. Lacking any evidence of this ever working other than to establish plutocracy and boom and crash disasters, one wonders where the 'conservative' part really is.

Then I recall that our conservative really hate democracy and love the rule of rulers with Money. They see a natural leadership class of "successful" corporate leaders and property holders, and they want to get rid of the bother of acting as if the citizens were supposed to do more than be workers and profit centers for the Corporate Crony Entitled. They run the money and we do the work, and it sounds like the old Plantation on both sides of the Mason/Dixon Line.

Barry and Bill opposed the War on Drugs. "Conservatives" described credible theories of social policies and committed Commerce to producing sound, democratic social results rather than the justification for selfishness and hoarding. The poor were not blamed even if the impediments in the capitalist economy were under-rated. One could get a college education for very little money. The minimum wage then, the equivalent of about $15 today, could buy enough for a student to get by. But, even more important, the image of a college education was not framed in a desperate job chase but in having options for the application of a liberal education in various vocational paths.

I keep wondering why Conservatives keep company with so many of those who abuse their brand and why they blame us for being 'confused' about what the pure conservatives really believe when they are hanging around with these bums. Our Lefties spend more time savaging Obama and the Liberal Center than they do showing the Right acting out. Shooting fish in a barrel is boring. If the real cons would take on the Republicans and fellow travelers with half the vehemence they show here, it would be a good thing.

Apr. 26, 2012 12:15 pm

Retribution or revenge is considered a conservative value. I see it that way, death penalty regardless if innocent is Scalia's mantra. gods-executioner covers the reverence for the executioner a few years ago.

The other self-image that appears prominently is that of a healer-priest, likewise evident in his pervasive concern with full accounting of each individual’s crimes and sins, no matter how small, and Schmidt’s own active role in reconciling the sinner with God. Strikingly, his approach is much less overtly doctrinaire than that of his colleague, prison chaplain Johannes Hagendorn, who also kept a personal journal of criminal cases. Rather, Schmidt seeks to create in the elaborate spectacle of public death a sort of preliminary last judgment that provides the condemned the opportunity to achieve “a good end” or “fine death”, and in his journal he comments extensively on his own success or failure in ensuring that they did not part the world “godless” or “with no hope of salvation”. Above all, the journal entries and supplemental legal sources portray a man steeled to the use of torture and other violence on the offenders before him but also consistently attentive to avoid unnecessary cruelty. Schmidt, for example, successfully leads a pioneering campaign to abolish the drowning of female felons and execute them by what he considered the more humane method of decapitation. He also regularly persuades his magisterial colleagues to behead those condemned to die by fire or being drawn and quartered. Meister Frantz’s style and thinking evolved over the course of his long career as did his reactions to the range of individuals he encountered during his professional duties, alternately evoking his pity, disgust, indifference, bemusement, and, occasionally grudging admiration. His matter-of-fact recitation of hundreds of state killings, including some horrendous punishments, cannot fail to jolt our modern sensibilities. At the same time, his work ethic, commitment to restoring civic order, and attempts at personal redemption are immediately familiar, perhaps to an uncomfortable degree. Joel Harrington is Professor of History at Vanderbilt University and a fall 2009 Berlin Prize Fellow at the American Academy in Berlin. His most recent book, The Unwanted Child: The Fate of Foundlings, Orphans, and Juvenile Criminals in Early Modern Germany, has just been published by The University of Chicago Press. - See more at:
This is not 2014, but 1587 or so. Europe became more civil 400 years later, so the US might improve in another 200 years as well. France ditched the guillotine in 1966, not for more humane execution but just no capital punishment. TX still hangs people if they want, I think. Iran doesn't even use a gallows, they just strangle people with a cherry picker lift and noose. Saudis give the soon to be beheaded a blood thickener so they don't spray the audience like Gallagher does.

douglaslee's picture
Jul. 31, 2007 4:01 pm

The "Better Deal" Platform

Democrats like Chuck Schumer say they're serious about putting the interests of working people first.

They say their new Better Deal Agenda puts the interests of working Americans first.

But are they doing enough to help out America's labor unions?

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