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I had to have a dose of nostalgia so watched American Graffitti and the soundtrack is always a pleasure.

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RIP David Bowie...I was not big on glamrock at the time, preferring psychedelic Yes, ELP, Pink Floyd etc. However, glamrock's broad brush included The Sweet which included carribean sounds imo.

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http://www.thenation.com/article/david-bowie-the-apolitical-insurrectionist-who-taught-us-how-to-rebel/

 Bowie had proven could be changed by more than elections and economics. Like his intellectual icon, the unruly and unconfined socialist George Orwell, Bowie eschewed ideological predictability for boundary-breaking expeditions along the frontiers of cultural change.

David Bowie declared himself “apolitical.” Yet he taught us how to rebel.

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My favorite Bowie song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSHY1_ux8rs

He captured perfectly the American neurosis (ummm sickness) with that one.

Whatever anyone thinks of Bowie's artistic wandering he always raged against the machine:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-_30HA7rec

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Rock and Roll ... my generation, not really my genre ... I never paid it much attention. Still, amazing grounds have been broken and truths revealed in that era.

David Bowie transcends the era and the genre ... I hope his works survive the test of time ... generations can learn from his life and his truth.

People can call him names ... he called it as he saw it - too rare. Just now, hearing his latest works ... revelation unfolding:

Where Are We Now? (01/08/13)
https://youtu.be/QWtsV50_-p4

Valentine's Day (07/15/13)
https://youtu.be/S4R8HTIgHUU

Love Is Lost (10/30/2013)
https://youtu.be/dOy7vPwEtCw

Blackstar (11/19/2015)
https://youtu.be/kszLwBaC4Sw

Lazarus (01/07/16)
https://youtu.be/y-JqH1M4Ya8

... oh yeah, David Bowie passed on the first new moon of the year ... talk about starseed planting time!!

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Late morning fare to go with the omelets, coffee and toast.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2ZFdJEPi2Y

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Any one interested in some heads up from circa 70's, early 80's?

XTC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCW6Kte2o1A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGc5h1yWHQ

Yep get up off your ass.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pzRYBr1wbY

The words:

Chant your spirit free
Rush to greet truth like a dart
(Shake your bag o' bones)
(Shake your bag o' bones)
That's not traffic roar
That's a leopard in your heart
(Shake your bag o' bones)
(Shake your bag o' bones)

Go tell your stale friends
Go tell false prophets and drug traffickers

Not to try to push our bodies any faster
We're dancing with disaster
And the first will be the last
It's nearly Africa (oh)
It's nearly Africa (oh)
Any day now
Any day now, now
Any day now
Any day now, now
Any day now (it's nearly Africa)
Any day now, now
Any day now (it's nearly Africa)
Any day now, now

Unplug future plans
Finger-paint the Sun on you
(Shake your bag o' bones)
(Shake your bag o' bones)
Mend your missing links
I think trust should be the glue
(Shake your bag o' bones)
(Shake your bag o' bones)

Go tell your warboys
Go tell all leeches and blind panickers

Not to try to push our bodies any faster
We're dancing with disaster
And the first will be the last
It's nearly Africa (oh)
It's nearly Africa (oh)
Any day now
Any day now, now
Any day now
Any day now, now
Any day now (it's nearly Africa)
Any day now, now
Any day now (it's nearly Africa)
Any day now, now

(Our civilisation car is running wild, wild, wild, wild)
(Who did you give the wheel to?)
(The fat man driving us over the edge of the nearest cliff face)
(Is he the same God that I've seen you kneel to?)

Go tell your stale friends
Go tell false prophets and drug traffickers

Not to try to push our bodies any faster
We're dancing with disaster
And the first will be the last
It's nearly Africa (oh)
It's nearly Africa (oh)
Any day now
Any day now, now
Any day now
Any day now, now
Any day now (it's nearly Africa)
Any day now, now
Any day now (it's nearly Africa)
Any day now, now

Any day now (it's nearly Africa)
Any day now, now
Any day now (it's nearly Africa)
Any day now, now
Any day now (it's nearly Africa)
Any day now, now
Any day now (it's nearly Africa)
Any day now, now
Any day now (it's nearly Africa)
Any day now, now
Any day now (it's nearly Africa)
Any day now, now
Any day now (it's nearly Africa)
Any day now, now

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Thanks, definitely an X to see.

Father & Daughter- Forever Young

The Night before MTV

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Never was a Rod Stewart fan. Why not Dylan for that song?

Ah XTC, shrug just in the mood I guess. Wish I could've found Towers of London live from 75 to have thrown in that mix. The English Settlement album is a good one to listen to though.

Ya seem a tad maudlin today Doug, see if this will help a bit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-lsiDJWMsQ

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A little opera from the Swedes,

alright it's 3 Penney Opera, but still a Swede. I kind of have a thing for them.

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Grammy Winner 1965

tSubjects in the song above

ftr, St Pauli Girl beer uses an ad motto "You'll always remember your first girl" St Pauli is the red light district of Hamburg.

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I don't think I knew many if any red blooded males that didn't have er, some kind of dreams about Ann Margret. And the cool breeze from Ipanima on a hot summer day always left us all melted on the sidewalk like a spit out piece of chewing gum.

This is another I fell in love with from afar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIHPHMUZoq0

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I don't dance but I would take lessons from this instructor. Probably buy one of her mattresses, too.

Lena was FINE!

Scool's not out yet, Teach Me How to Shimmy

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A dance that woke up all of America even though they chose to ignore the horrors from the messaging the movie was about. In the end it became just another in a long running dime-a-dance two step across the floor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IuMUzCJ5m8

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Dancing the night away. Pay attention you'll be tested on portions of the lyrics later:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fa4BfPQiKs

So now, how many dance names can you identify done in this this scene?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSLMN6g_Od4

Yeah hell if I know either, may as well be walking on sun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsYlU-fGx3M

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Just another two step toward just another tomorrow for one more night in america.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7H0coPhlpy4

Grab your closest and dance! (no one can see you)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGryEfIY7-s

Oh yes celebrate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbzEgfCwzJU

Come on ya can do this! Dance!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eVxzRG5JoA

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Sunday morning! Wakeey wakeey everyone!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muv1BkVn4F8

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Sunday morning! Wakeey wakeey everyone!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muv1BkVn4F8

Do We Gotta Get Up?

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Someone has to get up because the dogs are out!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qkuu0Lwb5EM

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Got those omelets and waffles made and gone yet? Time to order out for some pizza.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oYzxkfzJZ0 

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Got those omelets and waffles made and gone yet? Time to order out for some pizza.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oYzxkfzJZ0 

A lot of guys how to learn how to make Banana Pancakes

when this came out. Now of course it could be a pick up line instead come see my sketches, "Wanna try my Banana Pancakes?" Or so I've read.

When the whole world fits inside of your arms do we really need to pay attention to the alarms"

Warning, it's kind of addictive, the song, not the pancakes. one comment:

A voice like having your balls tickled and lightly licked by cool foam on a small sea wave as it laps at the shore. I mean that as a compliment.
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Sunday afternoon music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JT8zLTaKxeE

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Monday morning noise, hup two three four:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQWB_IzhzEs

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Troggs are worth a listen

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Gotta tell ya Doug, after just scanning some these pages from the last few days I'm not feeling a whole lot of love at the moment. But in spirit of the thread I'll make an offering I ran across: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFqK6PBq-hA What I want everyone to note is the intro, that's what it feels like in Amerika today ya'll. Note the excusing that someone is black and assurance that this 'one' is okay. Your white privilage is running out of room.

Fuck you Amerika: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOTsX1eIM54

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Maybe the blues comes in a variety of shades...nostalgia feels like it too, for someone like me.

Hearing this song for the first time so long ago nearly blew off the top of my head. Not so much anymore, sigh.

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Nostalgia does come in all sorts of ways. I used to go see this guy every time he was within my range. Some of my friends dropped by one evening just before I was heading out and they asked where I was out too. When I told them, they go WHO? Oh man, you're gone. They got over it and made excuses for me after a short while. lol

Any ways here's Joni in baritone:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vk9QFRvVQQ0&ebc=ANyPxKqyM-YDepufZqOxpv_9...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzXyoeKOcx4&ebc=ANyPxKrwLQl2sUKi1e40kfTd...

One of his own songs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pxEKfEBOWM

Then for me there's the kind of nostalgia for something never known as a child, love and family:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Dx6Zdx2AJ4

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Yes, let them get over it.

"...nostalgia for something never known as a child, love and family:" Heartbreaking thought.

And along comes the evolution of mood, which your Tom Rush selections reminded me of:

Now, it's this, sometimes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDyKa4EcsLg

Then nostalgia for this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0VWa6XJJmo

Back to Now, sometimes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCCY5n2KhhI

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Yeah, but it did take the brothers a bit of time. Ya gotta remember that was the peak of the Black Power movement........Whatever, I was always a coffee house rat, if for no other reason than as someplace cheap to hang for a while.

The only time I caught this guy was in 66 (I think!) somewhere (I think!) outside of shaky town. He couldn't stand but had to sit and almost did a full set.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RrRajjlo6M&ebc=ANyPxKpVS66GeI4zWt6FWZ2MpxmEKbFGWgTmLe2rD6VxJZIdaKDSq8AQkOoIaMaoP8V2dgixG0hrwWaK2tacWd9V5h4h_sR05Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bW6VZi0ICs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMESDbBHG2c

As an aside I always prefered Joni's 'Circle Game'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9VoLCO-d6U

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I got in to Tom Rush when FM radio was coming out, it was stereo and WEBN was from Cincinnati but we could get it up in Montgomery County south of Dayton. Rush was not am pop and the range of tunes the FM stations played were awe inspiring. Univ of Cincinnati's College Conservatory of Music had an alumni you might've heard of, Frank Zappa.

Kids These Days is an old man's song right there with "Get offa my lawn" growling.

"I'd have more fun but the women are so hard to please" "Let it burn burn burn"

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Sammy Davis jr did a cover of this and he liked it so much it became a signature song like Peggy Lee's "Is that all there is?" became her song. (and fever) I saw the writer in concert a couple of times in Cincinnati. Small venues with tables that we ended up dancing atop of.

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Not an oldie, but a Norwegian tune, Work It. or subtitle 'Hip hop addresses metaphor'.

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Not an oldie, but a Norwegian tune, Work It. or subtitle 'Hip hop addresses metaphor'.

Ahem, that’s offensive on so many levels, I don’t know where to begin. Oh well— first off, if the Norwegians want to give us an anatomy lesson, they shouldn't forgot to mention the uterus, our major orgasm organ. What’s up with that major omission? Then, they failed to mention that the little clitoris has 8,000 nerve fibers, twice the number in the whole damn penis. Plus, they act as if they’ve never heard of masturbation. And on and on…

This is better: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeiSx5MNDvg&app=desktop

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Hey guys, how did all that come out of coffee house wanderings??!!!!! Hmmm guess now I know why J. Geils sang on how Love Stinks.

So keeping with ya'lls theme there's this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3ivFrpONMg

On, ahem, something of a higher plane we are the lucky ones:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcRZ_J_VgNc

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Hey guys, how did all that come out of coffee house wanderings??!!!!! ...

What else do you expect to happen on April 1st, rs?

"Love never made a-- a fool of me. I always was one as you could see." —Greg Brown, Just By Myself.

Btw, I can't quite hear the words on your If It Smells Like Chicken song, or whatever the title was. It's mumbled on the refrain, at least to my ears.

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April 1st? Never even thought about it.....Never part of the clique I suppose.

Eh eh, the fish song. I won't put the lyrics up here but they're in print under the vid. My only question is just what kind of cologne the song writer is so familar with that smells so like shit or is it some veiled warning for his son about the how the gays will capture him.

Shrug, it was just a stupid song I found that seemed to fit with where you guys want to go.

Well, aren't we the lucky ones? We find love and let it go........just like freeing the trout into the slip stream and all the while saying goodbye having no regrets. We know if we try to hold it it dies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Cin0QzuEss

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April 1st? Never even thought about it.....Never part of the clique I suppose.

No cliques here, I hope. I think it was just a bit of April Foolery, that's all.

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Eh eh, the fish song. I won't put the lyrics up here but they're in print under the vid.

Oh. Ok. Hadn't noticed that. Well, I suppose that's one kind of advice. At least he's communicating with his son.

Incidentally (nothing to do with music), that reminds me of this recent interview by Terry Gross on Fresh Air: Girls & Sex and the Importance of Talking to Young Women about Pleasure. Oye, is all I can say w/ regard to what sounds to me like a trend these days toward the death of pleasure in sex for heterosexual girls and women. What's to be done? It's not a life a want for my granddaughters.

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Well, aren't we the lucky ones? We find love and let it go........just like freeing the trout into the slip stream and all the while saying goodbye having no regrets. We know if we try to hold it it dies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Cin0QzuEss

I have that LP, It's a Beautiful Day. It's in my garage in a box with all the other LPs I'd collected over the years. Wish I still had a turntable for them still. I also have LPs of Led Zeppelin, Cream, the Beatles, Steve Miller Band, Joan Baez, Joni Mitchell, Bob Marley, Cat Stevens, Leonard Cohen, etc, etc.

Speaking of birds, flying away...

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In all fairness didn't we all kinda fumble our way along in that particular animal endeavor? I'd never expect todays youngers to be that much wiser in that reguard then we were. Ya gotta remember, our elders in our time also gave close to the same concerns you just voiced. I wouldn't worry too much Zoe, some won't figure it out but most of them will. So I'll just stay in my own bedroom and won't so much as knock on anyone elses closed door.

Tales of three loves and lovers (all of them complicated):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0kJdrfzjAg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPmSyt6kqCY--

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NvGQk1N-j0&ebc=ANyPxKpeSD4jg7Nv3xEFsFbP...

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Love that Suzanne Vega song, Luka, as well as Loudon Wainwright lll’s Dead Man (even has a dead man’s name). Absolutely— sometimes you don’t know how much you love someone, until they’re gone.

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In all fairness didn't we all kinda fumble our way along in that particular animal endeavor? I'd never expect todays youngers to be that much wiser in that reguard then we were. Ya gotta remember, our elders in our time also gave close to the same concerns you just voiced. I wouldn't worry too much Zoe, some won't figure it out but most of them will. So I'll just stay in my own bedroom and won't so much as knock on anyone elses closed door...

Sure, back in the day as teens, lots of fumbling. The difference in the generations, rs, is that, until this recent decade and a half, once boys grew into men, they used to take pride in being “good lovers.” They took an interest in a mutuality of pleasure, rather than aping the kind of sex put forth lately by the current misogynistic pornography industry, where sexual “pleasure,” if you can call it that, belongs to men, and women exist for the sole purpose of serving the desires of men. This is the indoctrination our teens receive today about sex, and it’s reflected, as that Fresh Air interview revealed, in the fact, for example, that teenagers today engage in one-way oral sex, that is, blow jobs, which serve the boys’ sexuality, while the favor is never reciprocated!

Here ya go, getting back to music, remember this one?— the Pointer Sisters, Slow Hand:

“...

I'm tired of fast moves, I've got a slow groove

On my mind

I want a man with a slow hand

I want a lover with an easy touch

I want somebody who will spend some time

Not come and go in a heated rush

I want somebody who will understand

When it comes to love, I want a slow hand…”

What girl today could have the courage to insist on that bit of truth?

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I'm not sure I see that much difference between 'our day' and today Zoe except in availiablity and the nothing left to imagination that I term as the coarseness of the raw act. After all we learned from someones stashed Playboy and more lewd girlie mags in half abandoned garages and tool sheds. Then we had the one deminsional movie scripts flashing before us on movie screens and the tv sets in the living room. All sending the same message the kids today have to work their way through. I meet women that are twenty years old and girls that are 45 or 50. And visa versa for my gender, males that are still boys at my advanced age and 20 year old men. I haven't foggiest on how they conduct their sex lives but I'm reasonably sure it aligns with their comportment in their daily lives. But whose to know other than them? Tain't my business if it's not abusive.

I remain unconvinced Zoe, I believe most will grow up and get into finding healthy relationships sooner or later........just as our generation did. One way bs always gets old for the the one who gets short changed:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6UAYGxiRwU&nohtml5=False

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Rs, before I respond in detail, I should let you know that my opinion is informed by a left-leaning critique of today's commercial pornography. An important critique of the industry, one that has influenced my thinking on the subject, is the documentary The Price of Pleasure, which includes commentaries by good folks such as Robert Jensen. I don't know if you've seen the documentary; if not, I hope you can find the time to do so.

Basically, when I refer to today's pornography, that directed at heterosexual males, I am not talking about simple depictions of naked babes and people engaged in basic fucking. I'm talking about the current trend in pornography that has morphed into greater and greater sexist, misogynistic and violent approaches to sex between men and women, an approach that I believe is an ideology that supports patriarchy and damages the whole concept of equality. Plain and simple, I see it as another form of bigotry, a form of hate speech.

I do wonder if we should take this discussion to a different post, perhaps a new one, to allow Doug's thread to retain its original intent, as in music. Don't know, just a suggestion.

I'll be back. Just that, for now.

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While it's true if one looks (and actually sees) how any numbers of people interact amongst with each other you can pick out those that show outwardly the tendencies you speak of, and rightly so by my estimates as well. We can only assume they also carry those same attitudes on in their daily lives. The type comes in both sexes, just because one is more likely to be male dominated doesn't mean the rolls aren't reversed on occasion or that they don't reverse after the bedroom door is closed. I just don't think we can summarily extent sexual mores of individuals to the overall problematic cultural morass we seem to be stuck in at present.

I think it's silly and a useless waste of energy to be worrying about how people 'do it', what gets them wound up for the act or what gets them off. I never considered it any of my business if I wasn't directly part of the scene or someone isn't pounding on the door crying out for help in escaping.

Hey! Remember we were the generation that threw open the front door to that fun house of mirriors:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQ6akiGRcL8

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Hi, rs.

Did you watch that documentary?

Anyway, I'm still thinking of starting a new thread on the subject, mainly because it interests me, but also because it does feel like a distraction from the purpose of this thread.

In the meantime, I like this: Ma’agalim - Jane Bordeaux

[Translation from the French]: "Days turn into years

And inside them I was going Fast and in circles

Winds are blowing at me

Blow on the back of my neck

Everything seems too far too big

I'm not moving forward

It's just the time that's moving on (that drifts away)

This is another passing train

It's a further tightening rope (knot)

Sunrises sinking fast

As more seasons pass

(x2) I'm not moving forward

It's the time that drifts away"

And just how free are we?

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Nope I didn't watch the doc Zoe. They wanted me to sign in and I don't have an account and I ain't about to start one. I'm not a member of Facebook, twitter, snap chat, or any other social network that everyone else seems to belong. Next time I'm watching television though I'll check on Roku or Apple if they have it. If it isn't open sourced I don't bother.

Shrug, Doug and everyone else is probably used to me doing a bit editorializing here and there on this thread depending on my mood. I just throw in some music to try and make it worth whom evers time is all. However you'd probably get more feed back and deeper thoughts (and certainly better articulated thoughts) from a wider group than in a topic labeled music :-)

How free are we?........

If I may do a little borrowing and paraphrasing......If I knew the way, I would take you there. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=671AgW9xSiA

We're all, each of us are chained to the past my friend and those bindings are for keeps until we become star stuff. The only thing we can change is some future other person/s past. But we are already securely bound.

Ahem, on that note how about some mellow jazz. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gsz3mrnIBd0

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Nope I didn't watch the doc Zoe. They wanted me to sign in and I don't have an account and I ain't about to start one.


Huh? It's on YouTube, rs.

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Shrug, Doug and everyone else is probably used to me doing a bit editorializing here and there on this thread depending on my mood. I just throw in some music to try and make it worth whom evers time is all. However you'd probably get more feed back and deeper thoughts (and certainly better articulated thoughts) from a wider group than in a topic labeled music :-)

While reading your comments, I often find myself smiling, either that or taking a moment to consider what I might not have considered in the first place. I don't know about "deeper and better articulated" feedback anywhere else on this forum— you'll do fine. I mean, if I start a new thread, I sure do hope you'll join me. After all, we've certainly not exhausted the issue of pornography, not by a mile.

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How free are we?........

If I may do a little borrowing and paraphrasing......If I knew the way, I would take you there. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=671AgW9xSiA

We're all, each of us are chained to the past my friend and those bindings are for keeps until we become star stuff. The only thing we can change is some future other person/s past. But we are already securely bound.

Ahem, on that note how about some mellow jazz. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gsz3mrnIBd0

Chained to the past, individually speaking, sure. But how about political and social freedom in the context of culture— people shouldn't have to wait until they become star stuff to find that.

Zenzoe
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The first thing they want for signing in is to confirm my age because of content is my email address, there after I've no idea because they aren't getting it. So I don't get in. No matter to me, I'm reasonably sure I've a pretty good idea what it's about; at least in general terms at any rate.

In broad terms I'm more inclined to think the prono industry as only a reflection of the political and social culture. In other words the symptom and not the disease.

"Chained to the past, individually speaking, sure. But how about political and social freedom in the context of culture— people shouldn't have to wait until they become star stuff to find that." unquote.

Wait? Wait for what? Wait for the past? How can that happen for anyone either individually or en masse?

Sunday morning noise.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w6IY0v-0pA

rs allen
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Okay, and then there's this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6Uus--gFrc

Quote Ella's Song, Lyrics and music by Bernice Johnson Reagon,
Sung by Sweet Honey in the Rock
:

We who believe in freedom cannot rest
We who believe in freedom cannot rest until it comes

Until the killing of black men, black mothers' sons
Is as important as the killing of white men, white mothers' sons

That which touches me most is that I had a chance to work with people
Passing on to others that which was passed on to me

To me young people come first, they have the courage where we fail
And if I can but shed some light as they carry us through the gale

The older I get the better I know that the secret of my going on
Is when the reins are in the hands of the young, who dare to run against the storm

Not needing to clutch for power, not needing the light just to shine on me
I need to be one in the number as we stand against tyranny

Struggling myself don't mean a whole lot, I've come to realize
That teaching others to stand up and fight is the only way my struggle survives

I'm a woman who speaks in a voice and I must be heard
At times I can be quite difficult, I'll bow to no man's word

We who believe in freedom cannot rest
We who believe in freedom cannot rest until it comes

I don't know, I can't help seeing parallels between the civil rights movement and the women's liberation movement. Is it just me?

Zenzoe
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Jul. 31, 2007 4:01 pm

And?

So there are some parallels here and there. That line really goes nowhere Zoe because any parallels diverge sharply and you know that as well as I do.

So your point of the question is what?

In the mean time how about some music?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqFUmo8VVg0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBSEXMGhC6Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FscIgtDJFXg

rs allen
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Quote rs allen:

And?

So there are some parallels here and there. That line really goes nowhere Zoe because any parallels diverge sharply and you know that as well as I do.

So your point of the question is what?

In the mean time how about some music?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqFUmo8VVg0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBSEXMGhC6Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FscIgtDJFXg


I adore that last one.

Here’s another that I love: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qPK_Vh49nQ

My question, “Is it just me?” Well, I do sometimes wonder where’s the same outrage over misogyny, sexism, sex trafficking in women (slavery), inequality, violence against women, that is, the same degree of outrage and concern that we have regarding racism.

Do women’s lives matter too, rs?

Quote Kool G. Rap, Hey Mister Mister:
...Bitch why you lyin, bitch you've been cheatin

Now I gotsa to give your motherfuckin ass a beatin

I punched her in the ribcage and kicked her in the stomach

Take off all my motherfuckin jewellery, bitch runnin

I stomped her and I kicked her and I punched her in the face

Some people crowded around but nobody got out of place

Don't want heroics, "Hey buddy" - aiyyo money don't get in this

"Hey miss you alright?" - motherfucker mind your business!

I'm bashin her with the nine, inches away from pullin the trigger

But a nigga got to hit her till I see her face get bigger

I'm sick of all the bullshit, tired of all the nonsense

So I pistol whipped the bitch till her ass fell out of conscious

Now she's all bloodied up, layin in that red shit

Bitch press charges, I guarantee you she's a dead bitch

The first time you play me is your last

So yo don't interrupt me when I'm whoopin on my bitch ass...

And where do you suppose that guy got the idea he’s entitled to take this attitude about sex with women?

We're just going to laugh it off, right?

Zenzoe
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0VWa6XJJmo

Zenzoe
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