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"We're just going to laugh that off". end quote

Why do I feel like that's an accusation aimed toward me? The only time I've seen ANY porno was brought forth by two or three women I happen to be with, other than that I've never pursued that particular titillation. It just doesn't do anything for me. The last time I saw strippers I was about 20 yrs. old in a place loosely called the DMZ at a small base 'camp' that was put on by the USO for I guess the moral of us troops, yada yada yada. But whatever, I found it so profoundly sad I haven't been to a show of that nature since; and you wouldn't be able to lure me into one for love nor money even now 50 long years after.

Even though I'm a male I've always TRIED to take females on their own merit. I also try to recognize that as a male raised within a patriarchal world I'm going to always come up short and I try to correct that when I can (in the best time I can manage). I don't laugh off anything. I'm younger than that now.

Where does anyones sexual appetites come from?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVR8lg1YLuc

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Quote rs allen:

"We're just going to laugh that off". end quote

Why do I feel like that's an accusation aimed toward me?

Not at all, rs. I know you care. It was just a sigh, because that’s the standard reaction, one I’ve encountered many times— “Oh, it’s just satire. He’s making a mockery of macho posturing,” and “Isn’t it so hilarious.” Well, no, it’s not funny. That’s a Thing, a reality, and IMO it contributes to a hostile social environment for women.

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The only time I've seen ANY porno was brought forth by two or three women I happen to be with, other than that I've never pursued that particular titillation. It just doesn't do anything for me. The last time I saw strippers I was about 20 yrs. old in a place loosely called the DMZ at a small base 'camp' that was put on by the USO for I guess the moral of us troops, yada yada yada. But whatever, I found it so profoundly sad I haven't been to a show of that nature since; and you wouldn't be able to lure me into one for love nor money even now 50 long years after.

No need to say so, rs. What’s ironic is that I have enjoyed pornography myself, but in that case, we’re not talking the woman-hating porn of today, just people doin’ it, if you know what I mean.

But that's why I wanted you to see that documentary. Lots of people don't have any idea how hateful toward women porn has become these days.

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Even though I'm a male I've always TRIED to take females on their own merit. I also try to recognize that as a male raised within a patriarchal world I'm going to always come up short and I try to correct that when I can (in the best time I can manage). I don't laugh off anything. I'm younger than that now.

:-)

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Where does anyones sexual appetites come from?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVR8lg1YLuc

Nature/nurture, nurture/nature...blah blah blah...

I can promise you, though, the millions of men who masturbate to violent, gonzo pornography every day are being socialized to hate and abuse women. And that’s not just blah blah blah.

There was a time, when I would soak in the bathtub and try to sing this one, just like her. No such luck, but it felt good trying. You have to be in love to sing it, though.

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Ugh, turned into a busy week. And I don't even have a lot of time this morning either.

I think though Zoe that you'd be farther ahead if women thought more about the nurturing aspect of the equation. People that have a better foundation don't or won't accept any kind of abuse, ie. any male or female seeing the kind of porn you're on about here certainly wouldn't buy it or watch it again much less fantasize to it. That's why all of us need to work at changing the past of future others. That being said there's all ways going to be psycho's in our midst.

So in the spirit of herstroy (sic):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8LUbCv8Y0c

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Quote rs allen:

Ugh, turned into a busy week. And I don't even have a lot of time this morning either.

I think though Zoe that you'd be farther ahead if women thought more about the nurturing aspect of the equation. People that have a better foundation don't or won't accept any kind of abuse, ie. any male or female seeing the kind of porn you're on about here certainly wouldn't buy it or watch it again much less fantasize to it.

But rs, that’s the point— no, gonzo has gone mainstream, and I’m talking hardcore pornographic misogyny —hate and violence done to women— which is what’s out there on the internet, masquerading as sex-education for men and boys. And that’s 450 million views per month, more than Netflix, Amazon and Twitter combined.

Of course, nurturing men still exist, men who are repulsed by it.

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That's why all of us need to work at changing the past of future others. That being said there's all ways going to be psycho's in our midst.


More so today, given porn’s socialization of men and boys. But, rs, to say there’s always going to be psychos seems to deny the problem, by implying it doesn’t exist. Trust me, it’s real, but I’m not going to get into it too deeply right here, now. Just this, again, please find a way to watch the doc.

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So in the spirit of herstroy (sic):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8LUbCv8Y0c

I love that. It reminds me of a miniseries I watched recently, The Crimson Petal and the White, which, ultimately, is about the very real pain of sexism and classism experienced by women throughout herstory. Interestingly enough, the book the movie was based on was written by a man, one who obviously loved women very much.

Sugar’s song?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PIAPw8-9L0 (Sugar, the name of the prostitute in The Crimson Petal and the White.)

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Sign-up for multiple e-mail accounts and use a few for junk links and purchases. Hotmail is good for junk. Keep secure ones for finance or estate or personal business. If you have an email name you like, claim it on a few other providers.

The picture in one link was linked and titled "Thingstolookathigh.com" and was pretty good. As far as stuff of stars, Stardust was a topic for Sinatra /it-was-a-very-good-year covers Sinatra genre.

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Ya gotta be kidding me Doug ! I'm not going to go through all that BS for something I've already said I have no interest in beyond the cultural dysfunction of this society as a whole. I do not think that type of input is the start of or the end-all but just a mere distraction about an exercise of various peoples (of both sexes) sexual tastes. What predicates those tastes I think goes much deeper and is set before whatever one might view while 'coming of age".

Let me be clear. I don't need to see the shit that does nothing but repulse me and I can do little about beyond what I can do.....one piece and one person at a time........if anything at all.

Real compared to what?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jv0fnSBf0Do

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Sexual desires and tastes? Interesting...you posted a piano link, and harpsichords are similar in looks only, or keyboard. As Pryor was known to say "Guys want to hurt a pussy", so piano being purcussion fits that crowd. Harpsichord plucks and strokes to make music, and probably a longer lasting concerto than a quick forceful banging.

The gist was me seeking to beat marketing scams. I sat through one timeshare sales pitch for a complementary bottle of wine one time, not worth it, but only an hour of bs and we wanted to see the facilities. The lead sales person was a woman, (in Portugal, in English), but I bet with a Harpsichord piece I could've gotten a 2nd bottle of wine.

My link was Sinatra's "When I was !7", which the Kingston Trio had previously butchered to keep a country folk song theme. Sinatra's version became the gold standard, justifiably so. There are now 50 some verses added by an array of singers seeking a narrative style song. Can a narrative of plucking vs pounding* to please one's partner be a song?

*unless she's a dominatrix and you like the pounding.

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Yep I read the link Doug. I actually like Sinatra's rendition of the song best of any I've heard....even Keely Smith. I'm sorry, I carried on with something of a disagreement with Zoe (even though we're much closer than farther apart). To your point, I've no use for or time for marketing scams of any type. Didn't mean to go off on you about it.

I was sorry not to hear 'When I was Seventeen' from your link, as enlightening as it was. My favorite song from the Kingston Trio........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dh994JcEfkI

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I'm confused by this whole conversation.

Rs, I have the impression you think I was trying to make you look at a porn film, when it wasn't— it's a documentary about today's pornography. It's more talking about than showing scenes, as I recall, an analysis.

I also don't understand why you would be blocked from viewing it on YouTube, whatever your email address may be.

Doug, I'm confused about your input here. I seem to remember your approval of Jean Kilbourne's analysis regarding the stereotypes of women in advertising, as in sexist and misogynistic images and messages that surround us all the time. I do believe you've referenced this one: Killing Us Softly: Advertising's Image of Women. Yes? Thus, I'm confused as to why you seem to —see, I can't really tell what your opinion is, because so far it's stated more indirectly than directly— seem to accept the misogyny, sexism and brutality of today's pornography, given that, I guess, it's supposedly "sex" (which I don't think it is) and, therefore, it's beyond any social or political analysis that might take a dim view of it. Or, that any criticism of it comes from the Christian Taliban end of the political and social end of things, i.e., "prudery."

I hope I've misread you. I hope you're able to see the parallels between the damage done to women by advertising's messages about us and that of gonzo pornography (today's mainstream).

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No Zoe, I understood what it was you wanted me to see but viewing the documentary required more info from me then I give out willingly to the at large social media sites that's all. Besides, I doubt it would change my mind a lot if at all. The porno you're on about is a symptom......not the disease. If that makes any sense.

So whata think about poor Charlie stuck on the MTA?..........I always wondered why it never dawned on him that his wife never put the extra fare into his sandwich so he could get off . Could it be she thought it just fine and dandy he was gone? Why was Charlie so stupid to think the rat race he was strapped to so damn important that the line couldn't be crossed?

Any ways let's get on a train for another destination. Any takers?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v78-ftcqpNw

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Guess poor Charlie should've taken the A train.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dthGrehkuEk

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So whata think about poor Charlie stuck on the MTA?

I don’t know about Charlie, rs. All I know is that I had to get off the supplementary-insurance-for-Medicare train (in case you don’t know, Medicare only pays 80% of doctor and hospital bills), because the insurance companies raise their premiums, constantly and impossibly so.

Quote rs allen:

...I doubt it would change my mind a lot if at all. The porno you're on about is a symptom......not the disease. If that makes any sense.

Okay, well, let me ask you this: Would you refuse to criticize police killings of unarmed citizens because those killings are a symptom, not the disease?

Would you refuse to criticize pedophilia because pedophilia is a symptom, not the disease? Or would you feel undisturbed about priests molesting and raping children, thinking “it’s a symptom, not the disease?”

How about rapes of women at frat parties or in the military— a symptom, not the disease, so we shouldn’t think about it?

Or maybe we shouldn’t think about lots of things that are “only symptoms,” not diseases, things such as the suffering of Palestinians, or of hungry children in America, or of animals in factory farms, and on and on…

My point, rs, is this: why is every bad thing worthy of thought and attention, every bad thing but misogynistic pornography? Why is the suffering of women, and the disappearing hearts and souls of men done by pornography, the only social ill not worthy of criticism, while everything else is worthy?


But, all the towns and people seem to fade into a bad dream

And the steel rail still ain't heard the news

The conductor sings his songs again - the passengers will please refrain

This train got the disappearing railroad blues

Do women's lives matter, rs?

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Brubeck's A Train

The comments on youtube usually show their musical chops. One noticed the drummer's unusual drumstick maneuver near the end. I like televised playing to see what all is going on simultaneously.

Arlo's City of New Orleans

Zenzoe, sorry didn't see you had posted the link already. I read the lyrics and knew it was Arlo's song so posted a link but didn't see the last line was a link.

re:culture/symptoms/porn, on ren's civilization thread under economy, a lot of this is touched on. _book_excerpt_empire_of_illusion was just posted there. Humiliation as entertainment became clear to me when a reality show had Paris Hilton giving a contestant an enema on TV for all the country to see. I can't stand reality shows, the deceit they promote by declaring the winner to be the one that best screwed the others over, and the celebration of humiliation as entertainment. Hedges says the Roman Colliseum events (circuses part of bread and circuses) were similar. Their empire failed too.

Snow on the tracks

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Arlo's City of New Orleans

Zenzoe, sorry didn't see you had posted the link already. I read the lyrics and knew it was Arlo's song so posted a link but didn't see the last line was a link.

Actually, the whole paragraph was linked to the song, Dufus. ;-)

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re:culture/symptoms/porn, on ren's civilization thread under economy, a lot of this is touched on. _book_excerpt_empire_of_illusion was just posted there. Humiliation as entertainment became clear to me when a reality show had Paris Hilton giving a contestant an enema on TV for all the country to see. I can't stand reality shows, the deceit they promote by declaring the winner to be the one that best screwed the others over, and the celebration of humiliation as entertainment. Hedges says the Roman Colliseum events (circuses part of bread and circuses) were similar. Their empire failed too.

Yes, thanks for that. I saw your references to Empire of Illusion on that thread (I lurk here and there, y'know). I'd forgotten all about Hedges' disdain for the pornography industry, which he expresses in that great book. Best thinker on that subject, no doubt. For example, Pornography is What the End of the World Looks Like.

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Snow on the tracks

Bet you never heard this one— Ozark Mountain Daredevils - Chicken Train: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSkN9m7kh9A

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Okay, have it your way, porno is the desease. Let's outlaw it like rape, like pedophillia, like murder on the streets. Sure let's outlaw what two consenting adults engage in, that works every time.

Well ya got me, you've pegged me. I don't think womens lives matter. No use trying to share this road any longer.

All Aboard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0DZO5pVMU0&spfreload=1

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Quote rs allen:

Okay, have it your way, porno is the desease. Let's outlaw it like rape, like pedophillia, like murder on the streets. Sure let's outlaw what two consenting adults engage in, that works every time.

Sigh. Now I see you feel insulted, even though I never meant to insult you. I wish I knew your language.

Rs, please understand that I did not sign onto your framing the issue as an either/or choice of “symptom or disease.” I think it’s more complicated than that. And my comparisons were only meant to demonstrate why you can’t reduce complicated issues to that choice between symptom or disease— examples via exaggeration, not to be taken as literal, exact comparisons.

Have I said anything about banning “what two consenting adults engage in?” I have not. That’s personal behavior, in the realm of private life. My complaint, and hope for discussion, is about AN INDUSTRY, A BUSINESS, one where the normal understandings of consent do not apply. And it’s about socialization, the kind of indoctrination that shapes society, nationally and globally:

Quote Gail Dines:
... I do think, as a globe, we are facing a massive economic, environmental, political and social crisis. I think pornography, on some level, buys into this individualized, narcissistic sexuality, which is the kind of individual neoliberalism creates.

This neoliberal discourse on individualism makes it very difficult to explain to people why this is a problem because they simply say, “Well, if you don’t want to look at porn, don’t look at it.” And, “If the women choose to be in porn, that’s their choice.” Now, that’s the neoliberal approach: the idea that free individuals are making free choices based on the fact that they’re rational beings. We need a more collective understanding. For instance, what does it mean if we bring up our boys on hardcore pornography? What kind of men are we going to create? These men are going to grow up and be politicians, doctors, and lawyers. They’re going to become very important change agents in this culture.

So what I’m worried about, in a culture where women’s bodies are disposed of, and abused, is how men are going to do very simple tasks, such as create health care policy? What’s going to be men’s view of women when they’ve been trained by the pornographers to view women in a very specific way? What’s going to happen when these men become teachers and have young female students? What’s going to happen when they’re sitting judges and take rape cases? My fear is that sexuality does not stay in one part of the brain. It seeps into every part of people’s lives.

I think the bigger question is what’s our society going to look like in 10-15 years when all these boys who’ve been brought up on “Gonzo” pornography start becoming adult males in our society? That’s what scares me. What’s going to happen when they attempt to date women? I already see the fallout. Anyone who’s around women, they talk about their rapes and sexual assaults. They talk about what it’s like to date men who are using porn. I don’t know if guys know this, but many women find men who use porn quite creepy. They can feel it sexually. Again, these are very difficult questions to ask in a society that glamorizes the individual…
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Emanuele: How would you respond to those who say that pornography could be an empowering and liberating experience? Can we disconnect sexual exploration from pornification?

Dines: This is a crucial question. Yes, of course we can. The feminist anti-porn critique is not about what couples do in the bedroom. It’s a critique about a global industry, just as you would critique the fast food industry. Whatever couples do in their bedrooms is none of my business, okay? Now, take a global industry that circulates these products throughout the world and shapes the sexual template and, yes, as a feminist, that’s my business. I often get called “anti-sex.” Let me say something, if I were critiquing the fast food industry, nobody would accuse me of anti-eating. They would understand I’m critiquing an industry, not eating.

So, to call someone who critiques pornography anti-sex, is to confuse pornography with sexuality. One is a human desire for creativity and fun. The other is an industrial product. Can pornography be empowering for women in it? In the industrial setting, the answer is no. And I’ve researched more than almost anyone in the world about these issues. In the industry today, women last approximately three months. The reason is that their bodies cannot handle the damage done to them. So you tell me how an industry that destroys your body in about a three month period is empowering for those involved? An industry that causes chlamydia of the eye, gonorrhea of the throat, and anal tears to the point that some women’s anuses dropped out of their bodies. How can any of this be empowering?

http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/12/07/pornography-and-gender-politics-within-neoliberalism/

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Well ya got me, you've pegged me. I don't think womens lives matter. No use trying to share this road any longer.

My question, “Do women’s lives matter?” meant only, “Are we going to treat the issues that affect women’s lives (men’s too) with equal seriousness compared to other issues?” Do we care that there’s a whole industry dedicated to promoting hatred of women?

It wasn’t “Rs doesn’t care, doesn’t think women’s lives matter.” Not at all. I know you care.

A lady named Meow Meow poignantly performs the Patty Griffin song, "Be Careful."

(I don’t quite know why the piano player is in his undies, but there he is)

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"Do women's lives matter, rs?" end quote

No I did not see that framed as a rhetorical question. And I still don't. It was direct and accusatory in tone.

I've said from the beginning what drives this porno garbage is more complicated and is only what results from what a base wants. If someone isn't turned on by it, it dies. Period, end of story.

I was driven to simple metaphors by your failure or refusual to understand what I had and have been saying from the beginning. And while anyone with half a brain can tear apart any metaphor I think symptom vs desease is a very apropos in this case.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KbjWK6kTQg

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"Do women's lives matter, rs?" end quote

No I did not see that framed as a rhetorical question. And I still don't. It was direct and accusatory in tone.

I've said from the beginning what drives this porno garbage is more complicated and is only what results from what a base wants. If someone isn't turned on by it, it dies. Period, end of story.


I see. So, if men are turned on by sexist, misogynistic, violent, brutal and hateful images of things done to women, all presented by a profit-oriented industry, that’s all that matters. Period, end of story.

Men like it. And men’s lives matter, above all things. Period, end of story.

Guess I was wrong, rs— women’s lives don’t matter to you, after all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__BORWT33p0

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Shrug, you decide long ago to put words into my mouth. So it's decided I'm misogynist. Screw it I've been accused of worse I supposed.

I am going. To hell with land of hope.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PWwYSSs_v4

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Shrug, you decide long ago to put words into my mouth. So it's decided I'm misogynist. Screw it I've been accused of worse I supposed.

I am going. To hell with land of hope.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PWwYSSs_v4

It's just that you can't have it both ways, rs— rationalize misogyny, violence and cruelty toward women, then say "women's lives matter." That just doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

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I'm not rationalizing shit.

I quit, you win. Call me whatever you want or tilt at which ever windmill you choose.

It takes two to tango.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYLWmOt_BX0

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Quote rs allen:

I'm not rationalizing shit.

No? Just making excuses for shit then.

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I quit, you win.


I don't feel like I'm winning anything at all, rs. Just the opposite.

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Call me whatever you want


I haven't called you anything. You've heard names. There's a big difference.

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or tilt at which ever windmill you choose.

It takes two to tango.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYLWmOt_BX0

Runaway Train, Eliza Gilk​yson: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhtBjI29vDs

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I listened to the Ozark Mountain Daredevils in '70s, and Ozark humor.

"Ma, meet my new fiance, she's a virgin!! ain't that great?" Ma: "Not too, if she ain't good 'nuff fer her own family why is she good 'nuff fer ours?"

A daddy knocks on the door of a teen boy "Keep you son away from my girl" he says to the dad.

"How do you know it's my son?"

"He peed his name in the snow in front of our house."

"That could be anybody wrote that"

"Don't you think I know my own daughter's handwriting?"

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I listened to the Ozark Mountain Daredevils in '70s...

I should have known. ;-)

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...and Ozark humor.

"Ma, meet my new fiance, she's a virgin!! ain't that great?" Ma: "Not too, if she ain't good 'nuff fer her own family why is she good 'nuff fer ours?"

A daddy knocks on the door of a teen boy "Keep you son away from my girl" he says to the dad.

"How do you know it's my son?"

"He peed his name in the snow in front of our house."

"That could be anybody wrote that"

"Don't you think I know my own daughter's handwriting?"

Hahaha.

I knew there had to be one, a song about peeing in the snow.

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Asleep at the Wheel's My Baby Thinks He's A Train

Roseanne's was good too, but I saw these guys in Denver about 40 years ago and still click on their work, along with Commander Cody and his Lost Planet Airmen.

The Commander

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Smoke Smoke Smoke

led me to Newhart's tobacco bit

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Thanks, Doug.

For all the sad, mad & lonesome, Bernie-or-Busters: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsNzR_9yEBs

:-)

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I haven't put any Swedish talent for awhile, so here is a Nordic rep.

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Frieght train........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43-UUeCa6Jw

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Politics in amerika today...........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmYfjlr0GFA

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carrying on down the line............

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-u-_m7X538A

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Browne & Ry for when you can't choose which

I don't know what to say about these days
I'm seeing people changing in the strangest ways
Even in the richer neighborhoods
People don't know when they got it good
They got the envy and they got it bad

When I was a kid everything I did was trying to be free
running up and down tinsel town with the fire inside of me
my planets all in retrograde the best of all my plans got made
I made my breaks and some mistakes
Just not the ones people think I made

I'm a long way gone down this wild road I'm on
It's gonna take me where I'm bound
It's a long way around

It's a little hard keeping track of what's gone wrong
The covenant unravels and the news just rolls along
I can feel my memory letting go some two or three disasters ago
It's hard to say what did more ill,
Citizens United or the Gulf Oil Spil
l

I'm a long way gone down this wild road I'm on
It's gonna take me where I'm bound
It's a long way around

It's never been that hard to buy a gun
Now they'll sell a Glock 19 to just about anyone
The seeds of tragedy are there and what we feel we have the right to bear
and watch our children come to harm
There in the safety of our arms

We all disagree about
The passions burn, heart goes out

We're a long way gone
Down this wild road we're on
It's going to take us where we're bound
It's just the long way around

Read more: Jackson Browne - The Long Way Around Lyrics | MetroLyrics

liner notes-

covenant sounds similar to goverment and I had to find the proper words which sound like an aging boomer's anthem, to me anyhow.

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No single anthem for this aged boomer, there's too many to pick from. But to kinda carry on with Browne's theme a bit.......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_gQAai0JDA

I'm still working on the RR though. For some reason in my head I always hear this one about 3 or 4 beats faster than it's played..........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhXt8DwhaFA

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Heading down-grade now........

Enough metaphors for any and everyone in this one.........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9m_ZAyEgFsg

rs allen
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Chugging on down the tracks.......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vSKiTSWMqQ

Dare I say without Railroad Bill that line wouldn't have run?......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrzIf5wHv0Q

rs allen
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Anyone for a little disco this morning?.......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyT9jTW7MHc

rs allen
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Anyone care for a bit of some Doobie?...........maybe it'll help brighten a slow Sunday.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP_NE4XZGAc

rs allen
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Best of Midnight Special

was on my side menu with the Doobie Bros. Blinded by the Light (which has an oft mispronounced word 'deuce' ...'wrapped up in a deuce' does give one pause).

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Went the truth is impossible and so is the lie........only the strange remains.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymiHKiIo0V4

rs allen
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Man on the Street, Bob Dylan

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Prison for Miscarriages?

Thom plus logo Mike Pence's and the GOP's war on women took a sinister turn this week when Planned Parenthood was forced to abandon Title X funding; they can no longer get payment for serving low income women for cancer screenings and STD treatments.
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