Ivory Tower

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Ivory Tower documentary

attempts to address the costs and benefits of higher learning [11 times higher than 1978*], and associated student debt, [trillion+ and more than credit card debt, and never forgiven] and 140 billion profit the US government gets from forcing indentured servitude on this generation. The same demographics that are being denied the right to vote and thus challenge their status.

The questions raised in the documentary may be all that are needed, but paradoxes always present themselves in cultural changes once bathed in sunshine.

hi-tech-mess-higher-education is David Bromwich's review of the documentary and more perspective on the issues within it.

*The high cost began under Reagan in CA when he divorced the state from the goals of an educated populous. The GOP requires at least 25% of the people to be stupid. 40 -45% vote, 24-25% then choose the country for the rest. This also supports my '6 degrees of Reagan' tenet. I postulate that every problem in every facet of the country can be linked to Reagan in 6 connections of less. Student debt is Reagan's fault.

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Thom might like this topic. The university class understands a lot of Thom's advocacy, the instant runoff in particular, and the precinct captains. They also are familiar first hand with the orchestrated disenfranchisement of college students.

Lix Warren is the current champion for college kids. A support base in congress for Liz's positions coud be viewed as as nurturing the farm team of the voting base of whichever party attempts to rectify the documented abuse of college students.

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My own pov is that the exorbitant costs are not for an education. They are for the key, or combintion code for the lock, or the membership fee to the club of the corporate elite. The indebtedness is like the hazing. Anyone willing to enter into a faustian contract is deemed worthy to partake in corporate malfeasance, tortfeasance, petty fraud, bribery, and all the other qualities that make America what it is.

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What "university class." You might want to try being more clear in your writing, since you are posting under the heading of education. Schools have incurred higher costs as have everyone else. In addition, some have responded to demands from students of fancier residence faciliites with more privacy than traditional dorm rooms and other facilities. Many states have greatly reduced the amount of funding they provide to state universities, putting more of the cost burden on students and their families. There are new models of computer information career programs which only teach pratical, job-related courses or online courses that only require a computer connected to the Interent to participate in. When you generalize about corporations, you don't really advance a serious discussion about economics or law. There are problems, but if the system was a complete failure, things would be different from what they are, and the idea that there is a perfect system on earth is not reality. There have been protests about rising tuition costs in some European countries. What about talking about how much it costs to attend universities in England, Germany, France, or Poland?

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During the late seventies, fuel prices soared, inflation raged and the college tuition dollars bought less and less. So Congress, in an act of good intentions raised the ceiling for student loans, Pell grants, etc. Not only did the House want to increase funds for those who qualified, they also wanted to reduce the amt of paper work so they it lifted the ceiling from roughly $30K to $40 and simply just ripped that ceiling off because of the paperwork involved that wasn't helping matters either. KABOOM, tuitions in the late seventies and especially early 80s just exploded and as a result, colleges became more dedicated to recruiting a larger number of suddenly qualified students, never mind whether or not they could pay the loans ... and a lot of them didn't even bother. The Reaganites pointed to the Democrats whenever they found a college loan welfare queen to pin on the Donkey's rears. Let's face it, when it came to finessing the art of using half-truths to get their way, nobody went as full bore into this activity as much as the Reaganites.

College used to be a lot more affordable prior to this change in college tuitions insofar as any gov't "tinkering with the market" ... but whatever well intentioned mistakes that might've led to the sudden rise of tuitions ... the Reagan administration didn't lift a hand when it came to living up to its "limited government" preferences. It sure as hell loved them so long as any well intentioned Democratic idea could fatten the coffers of private colleges and enable this change in policy to undo affirmative action in ways no lawsuit could ever possible succeed in doing. There's nothing like an artificially created economic crunch for the middle classes to keep the private elite schools all the more elite. That was back in the early 80s. Anybody notice a real discernable lowering of private and prestigious public college tuitions and R & B costs since then? Only a few Catholic colleges which didn't charge much in the first place were able to bite this kind of bullet in order to help college actually become more affordable for students of all walks of life. But they, unlike the Supply Siders of Reagan's school of regressive economics, had two thousands of years wortth of actually promoting social and economic justice because it wrote the vast majority of the classics in this double field.

And conservative Catholics get upset when I tell them my eyes roll like fruits in a slot machine when I hear them lamenting for a return to the good ol' days when Ronnie was running the show. Hope they like their sack cloth and ashes. They deserve 'em.

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Our Universities in Sweden are paid for.

When I went in the US my room and board was 600 dollars for a year and tuition was 150 dollars per quarter, 3 quarters per year, plus 50 dollar matriculation fee. That makes 1100 a year.

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What Do Democrats Really Want?

Thom plus logo Thomas Friedman, the confused billionaire, told us decades ago that "free trade" is what made the Lexus a successful product when, in fact, it was decades of Japanese government subsidies and explicit tariffs that did so.
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