I'm confused...watching Mr. Hartmann on "FreeSpeech.Org." 6-12-15.

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I am confused. Mr. Hartmann said, "Free Markets don't work. The only place free markets work is in Somalia...the government gives the rules and there are referees and rules and all..."

Somalia is Mr. Hartmann's example of a true free market? And people in the audience smile and cheer? Frightening that emotion and feelings are so important to these people.

Free Markets require rules - of course! Free market folks will gladly accept rules. But it seems that people like Mr. Hartmann want to manipulate the people on the teams. Rules are not enough. He wants to punish winners and lift up the losers. In Mr. Hartmann's mind - there are not enough Korean Dwarfs in the NBA - so Mr. Hartmann wants to force Korean Dwarfs in to the NBA.

He does not just want referees!

Mr. Hartmann does not consider that the Korean Dwarf could go to medical school. Everyone has different talents.

Mr. Hartmann said, "Rush Limbaugh says there is a drunk liberal on line one - so let's talk to him...." What? Huh?

Mr. Hartmann just reinforces my view that Democrats are simply drunk on emotion. They use hyperbole instead of facts.

Climate change - sure it exists - but is it caused by "tiny little humans?" That is simply a religous belief. Reinforced by which experts one chooses to believe. Man's effect is negligible. The planet does not need "tiny humans." We are simply little ants on a huge ant farm.

The grandiosity of people who think we effect the planet is amusing.

I wish I could be drunk with emotion and just talk in "sweet" tones - like the "sweet and snuggly" Mr. Hartmann. Personality is definitely more important than facts are with liberals.

Scary.

And all the "injustice" here in the States? How long do you think people like Al Sharpton would last in Russia? How long do you think Jesse Jackson would last living in Kenya? How long would Louis Farakan last in China? They would not last 2 minutes!

Notice people will DIE to live in the States. The whiners are soooo ungrateful. Shocking.

How do you think a white would be treated in a Kenyan high school? How would a white boy be treated in a Libyan elementary school?

Racism DOES NOT EXIST. You have dickheads, and non-dickheads. And skin tone does not matter. Newsflash: you can have dark skin AND be a dickhead.

White Americans are so loving and forgiving. And they have spoiled the "downtrodden."

And Mr. Hartmann has - for some reason - a desire to be loved by the "downtrodden."

Well-intentioned - but misguided whiners.

It's a bummer.

And it's sad.

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Quote Karen Hsu: In Mr. Hartmann's mind - there are not enough Korean Dwarfs in the NBA - so Mr. Hartmann wants to force Korean Dwarfs in to the NBA.
I think it's called equal employment opportunity...aka: reverse discrimination. They think it will make us all righteous good people so that we can all go to heaven in our little row boats. Namaste!

I hear what you are saying about Global Warming but I think most of the scientists tend to believe that Global Warming, or Climate Change (like, when did it not change?), is a reality. I really have no idea if we can reverse it though. Some people think that if they eat less meat (farting cows, you know, that puts all that methane into the air) that we might be able to save the world. Others think that HAARP and jet contrails are part of a geo-engineering plan to kill off a large segment of the riff-raff by maybe loading those jets with aluminum oxide, sprayed out across the sky in a criss-cross fashion, which will kill off the honey bees which will destroy cross-pollination causing a reduction in the growth of fruits and vegetables that depend upon cross-pollinating bees. It'll kill off the vegetarians and vegans first because they won't have much to eat. HAARP will blast holes in our atmosphere and it'll let the sunshine in. But they don't want to do that until after the blast off.

But I think that craziness crept in from the right of center Coast-to-Coast-AM conspiracy theory crowds who may not all be righties... probably at least some are lefties... who knows? Doesn't matter because, from the same source, they tell us that the Sun will have a historical gigantic flare-up aimed at Earth and will fry everyone on that side of the Earth. It'll be a little like Russian Roulette..but only Ed Dames, and everyone who listened to that Art Bell Show, years ago, knows that Tahiti will be a safe place to be.

Quote Karen Hsu:And all the "injustice" here in the States? Howe long do you think people like Al Sharpton would last in Russia? How long do you think Jesse Jackson would last living in Kenya? How long would Louis Farakan last in China? They would not last 2 minutes!
That's why they live here in the land of Freedom and Opportunity. And believe me suing the City of New York $38 million, or whatever the obscene amount is, for not watch where the heck they are walking, twisting an ankle on an uneven sidewalk or pavement, even though days, or weeks later they are doing things that would not have been possible if they really did hurt themselves that badly. Where else but in America!

Oh yes... The Blast Off... Right now, the Bilderbergs are having a big meeting up in the Swiss Alps to make plans on their emergency evacuation on the space ship that will carry them all to the base on the dark side of the moon so that they can escape the carnage and desolation here on Earth. Their head scientist is a remote viewer called Major Ed Dames, formerly hired by the Pentagon to remote view what the Russians were doing, has telepathically, "seen" the future Sun Flare that will fry the Earth. The Russians had their remote-viewers to spy on us, telepathically, too. But Edward Snowden has instructed James Bond to reprogram the ship to head straight for the sun. We won't need to worry about farting cows once those meat-eating parasites are toast. Word has it that Louis Farakan, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and his daughter will all be aboard.

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Don't be confused Karen. Thom Hartmann is a Socialist. His political beliefs are opposite to what this country was founded upon.

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Yes, of course, there certainly wasn't anything resembling "communalism" among the Pilgrims...or the Indians (the real, original founding fathers). ;-}

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The Thom Hartmann show is about politics not a vehicle for promoting affirmative action. You are commiting the fallacy of using one aspect of a person's thought to mischaracterize the basic premises of that person's thought. What does affirmative action have to do with environmentalism? In and of itself nothing. But you remind me that liberals and progressives actually should keep an "affirmative action" type mindset in mind as much as possible; for in fact environmental justice is linked to social justice. Mr. Hartmann wants every team to practice on a clean field. But still, Mr. Hartmann does advocate for better rules in the form of Sanders' platform.

Nice try though.

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Dear Palindromedary:

The smug and intellectually superior wink! Nice - right out of the playbook! ; )

It's really about labels and perceptions, right? Do you know what "communalism" is?

Communalism: a system or theory of government in which the state is seen as a loose federation of self-governing communities.

Or: an electoral system in which ethnic groups vote separately for their own representatives.

Or: loyalty to the interests of one's own ethnic group rather than to society as a whole.

Or: the practice or advocacy of communal living or ownership.

Are you saying the Pilgrims were "tribal?" Or are you trying to say the Pilgrims were self-governing? What are you trying to say?

You say the "Indians are the real founding fathers?" Oy Vey! Of what? We ALL originated in Africa my dear simple-minded one. Our ancestors ALL migrated and fought and plundered and stole.

News flash -- human beings STILL migrate and fight and plunder and steal.

And be honest - do you think Mexican immigrants want their land back? Or do they simply want the "White Man's Stuff?" Do you really think Filipinos want to live in the States because of the "land?" Or because they want better stuff?

Moreover - were the "Indians" snuggly and sweet as apple pie? Or could they plunder and fight and migrate and steal with the best of them?

You need to learn more about human nature - my little pumpkin. Because American socialism is simply a way to exploit the "White Man's rules" -- thus plundering, stealing and fighting for his stuff.

Haha. We are all little ants fighting for some cheese. Welcome to humanity. And when you and I are dead - it will continue - my little pumpkin.

Insert smug and knowing wink here ; ) Toodles, Karen

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Like most religious people they were content to obey the established authority. They founded colonies, not a country.

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Winkin back at you, Love. And I just have to add that it is so sad that Michael Brown was raised to believe in his heart that violently shoving a small-elderly man and stealing Swisher Sweets is acceptable behavior.

If someone violently shoved Michael Brown's mom or dad and took their stuff, I wonder how they would react? Oh, but we do agree on a lot of things.. maybe not all.

What the heck..now where did that come from? Probably from some cutie I once saw on a blog somewhere. ;-} Are you retired and living off the middle class yet? I can't say that I am because I'm just getting the money back that I originally put in. You know...like a bank! Not like all those "freeloaders" who know how to game the system. Who's going to turn down a starving mother and her children, eh? Can't let them just starve, can we? Like I said, some people know how to game the system. Makes a lot of hard working people wonder why they even bother. Some may even be thinking about defaulting on their student loans. Now how about that, eh? Hey, even doctors game the system, and corporations game the system. They all know how to game the system. Just extra "sugar" in the icing for some.

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If you read Thom's biography, you found out that he started several successful businesses. The radio show is an enterprise in that there are commercials during the show. Dexterous is just jealous that he hasn't started businesses like Thom did.

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Quote Karen Hsu:I am confused.
Yes, you are.

Quote Karen Hsu:Free Markets require rules - of course! Free market folks will gladly accept rules.
They generally accept only rules that favor free market folks.

Quote Karen Hsu:But it seems that people like Mr. Hartmann want to manipulate the people on the teams. Rules are not enough. He wants to punish winners and lift up the losers.
Of course, punish the losers and lift the winners, those are the rules free market folks favor, right Karen Hsu?

Quote Karen Hsu:In Mr. Hartmann's mind - there are not enough Korean Dwarfs in the NBA - so Mr. Hartmann wants to force Korean Dwarfs in to the NBA.
To continue your analogy, those who dominate the NBA stepped on Korean Dwarves’ heads to dominate the NBA.

Quote Karen Hsu:He does not just want referees!
Thom Hartmann likely favors referees that take into consideration that Korean Dwarves have had their head stepped on, considerations that free market folks don’t like.

Quote Karen Hsu:Mr. Hartmann does not consider that the Korean Dwarf could go to medical school. Everyone has different talents.
Sure, everyone can go to medical school. Line up! Plus, for those Korea Dwarves more modestly talented, free market folks generally favor skipping these Korean Dwarves’ talents in favor of offshore Dwarves practically enslaved under authoritarian Dwarf regimes, all while free marketers wave the flag and crow “freedom!”

Quote Karen Hsu:Mr. Hartmann said, "Rush Limbaugh says there is a drunk liberal on line one - so let's talk to him...." What? Huh?
It is ironic Thom said this. Because I’ve heard Limbaugh generally screens out liberals, drunk or not.

Quote Karen Hsu:Mr. Hartmann just reinforces my view that Democrats are simply drunk on emotion. They use hyperbole instead of facts.
Hmmm. Sounds familiar.

Quote Karen Hsu:Climate change - sure it exists - but is it caused by "tiny little humans?" That is simply a religous belief.
As is the belief the planet has infinite resources, bestowed somehow by God to be only reserved for use by free market folks.

Quote Karen Hsu: Reinforced by which experts one chooses to believe. Man's effect is negligible. The planet does not need "tiny humans." We are simply little ants on a huge ant farm.
And you can kill ants with a magnifiyfying glass.

Quote Karen Hsu:The grandiosity of people who think we effect the planet is amusing.
Sounds kinda like the grandiosity of free market folks.

Quote Karen Hsu:I wish I could be drunk with emotion and just talk in "sweet" tones - like the "sweet and snuggly" Mr. Hartmann. Personality is definitely more important than facts are with liberals.
That should only be between you and Thom. But he’s married.

Quote Karen Hsu:Notice people will DIE to live in the States. The whiners are soooo ungrateful. Shocking.
That’s because their alternative is to die from exhaustion working in factories outourced from the U.S. by those free market folks.

Quote Karen Hsu:Racism DOES NOT EXIST. You have dickheads, and non-dickheads. And skin tone does not matter.
And Dylan Roof just proved you are wrong. Again.

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