Our doublespeaking president must have a very short memory. In 2004 he co sponsored SB 2386 a law strengthening Illinois Stand Your Ground law.

I guess if obama were a city, he would look like Detroit.

http://illinoisreview.typepad.com/illinoisreview/2013/07/obama-strongly-...

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bmolloy124 6 years 16 weeks ago
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"Our doublespeaking president must have a short memory. In 2004 he co sponsored SB 2386 a law strengthening Illinois Stand Your Ground law."

I guess if obama were a city, he would look like Detroit."

This comment coming so close after mine only furthers my fears of ignorance 'out there' in the blogosphere. I have no idea what the writer means to promote: Is it, Obama has always been for "Stand Your Ground?" But, only in the aftermath of killing of Trayvon Martin, Obama "up and changed his mind?"......... If so, Good for Obama!!! Well done if the Pres. changed his mind after death of innocent skittles carrying kid!

On the other hand, what's up with this comment(er)? He/She means to say that killing of Trayvon Martin is well and good and even one time "sanctioned" by the President?

Love how Detroit is capitalized while "obama" is not (!).. But that's beside the point...

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Luis_L. 6 years 16 weeks ago
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I guess when a country reserves the right to strike first you can interpret that to mean stand your ground.

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Rodger97321 5 years 39 weeks ago
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Another case of an article written for its choir that no one got around to pointing out the problems (I am no fan of whOreBama, but we need our criticisms to have a valid basis.)

Here's the part of the pre-existing law that was left intact:

(720 ILCS 5/7-4) (from Ch. 38, par. 7-4)
Sec. 7-4. Use of force by aggressor.
The justification described in the preceding Sections of this Article is not available to a person who:
(a) Is attempting to commit, committing, or escaping after the commission of, a forcible felony; or
(b) Initially provokes the use of force against himself, with the intent to use such force as an excuse to inflict bodily harm upon the assailant; or
(c) Otherwise initially provokes the use of force against himself, unless:
(1) Such force is so great that he reasonably believes that he is in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm, and that he has exhausted every reasonable means to escape such danger other than the use of force which is likely to cause death or great bodily harm to the assailant; or
(2) In good faith, he withdraws from physical contact with the assailant and indicates clearly to the assailant that he desires to withdraw and terminate the use of force, but the assailant continues or resumes the use of force.
(Source: Laws 1961, p. 1983.)

It may be instructive to note that the section which immediately precedes Illinois' 1961 version of "Stand your ground only as a last resort" is the one that details the law in regard to "mental disease or mental defect".

For me this makes sense bedause my reaction to hearing about the rash of new "Stand Your Ground" laws was that they were designed to decriminalize acts by people with a (largely media created/sponsored)mental defect.

Anyway, there's a long list of things POTUS has done that he will never be able to correct or make amends for - this just doesn't happen to be one of them.

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