Talking to gun owners, those who call themselves 2nd amendment proponents, we hear them repeat the talking points, trying their best to support their position. Let’s not go over them again. Each time there is a mass murder, which happens more and more these days, the gun lobby parades one of their obedient politicians, usually a congressman or senator to repeat these talking points.

I have very little respect for any politician who has an A rating from the NRA. These politicians are the same ones who say that guns laws and open carry should be a state’s right. They say this gun violence is a result of mental illness, and we should be treating that cause. They also oppose The Affordable Care Act and Medicare expansion, which would go a long way in treating this mental illness. They have tried repealing the ACA 50 times unsuccessfully. The governor of Ga has refused to expand Medicare, it doesn’t sound like he agrees with the NRA’s position on mental illness, or in some sick, parallel universe way maybe he does. We do call his political party,” The Clown Car.”

Why doesn’t the NRA or it’s A rated politicians encourage or even allow the CDC to study gun violence? It is the CDC’s job to research and find a cure for the insidious diseases that grieve our country every day. Why can’t doctors discuss the dangers of gun violence with their patients, without fearing criminal prosecution? Why can’t we require a 30-day waiting period on all gun purchases? Why can’t we require gun safety training for everyone who owns a gun the way we test everyone who we allow to drive?

If gun ownership is the answer to the problems of violence then how many more do we need? Are 300 million not enough?

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hollygolightly's picture
hollygolightly 4 years 12 weeks ago
#1

You may be barking up the wrong tree. Gun violence is actually down dramatically over the last twenty years in spite of the issuance of hundreds and hundreds of thousands of carry permits among which I am recently included.

From CNN,

"Gun-related homicides and crime are "strikingly" down from 20 years ago, despite the American public's belief that firearm crime is on the upswing, a new study said Wednesday.
Looking back 50 years, a Pew Research Center study found U.S. gun homicides rose in the 1960s, gained in the 1970s, peaked in the 1980s and the early 1990s, and then plunged and leveled out the past 20 years.
"Despite national attention to the issue of firearm violence, most Americans are unaware that gun crime is lower today than it was two decades ago," the researchers say."

http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/08/us/study-gun-homicide/

One can split hairs over the way headlines are written and polls taken but the clear indisputable fact is, millions of carry permit holders have been added to the population in the last twenty years and overall gun violence is down. With the addition of all new gun permits shouldn't there have been a dramatic rise in gun violence?

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Palindromedary 4 years 12 weeks ago
#2

Better hang on to your guns. After the Virginia shooting and now the Houston, TX shooting we may need them for protection!

Besides, if our guns were taken away from us, only the criminals will have guns. And you don't even need guns to do a lot of damage and murder lots of people. Now, if you ban gasoline, even then, only the criminals will have gasoline. We will all be riding bikes or walking but stay out of crowded places like school rooms and malls or stadium games. In China, it happen several times, knife weilding men entered school rooms and killed and wounded lots of kids. The police can't be everywhere all the time and there may not always be trained military men who just happen to be on the same train as you to assume the roll of "hero". And, if someone is determined to break into your house while you are in it, what are you going to do, use psychology on them? Phone the police who may have seen how unappreciative some people are of them? Even the police in Baltimore stayed away from certain areas for months after the riots. And the crime and murder rate soared there. If it is a choice between your life and your death...you'd better pull the trigger.

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Palindromedary 4 years 12 weeks ago
#3

When the criminals with guns realize that there are lots of people with guns as well, they are a lot less likely to see an easy mark. Criminals just love it when they hold all the fire power and their victims have none.

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Palindromedary 4 years 11 weeks ago
#5

Thanks for those links, hollygolightly! It's funny how those liberals who are against gun ownership by citizens are backing those people in the Black Lies Matters movement and inspiring rogue shooters like Vester Flanagan and Shannon Juruary Miles and perhaps even future shooters. They are shooting themselves in the foot, so to speak, because their actions are actually increasing people's realization that they need to be armed. If they are not, they will just be easy targets for anyone with a gun.

And your last link shows that a picture is worth a thousand words. Rick Ector, an NRA-certified firearms instructor and the blogger behind "LegallyArmedinDetroit.com is black. My hope is that most blacks don't agree with Black Lies Matters and those hostile blacks that have made it known that they are willing to be violent. As far as I am concerned, the Black Lies Matters movement is built largely around making martyrs out of criminals like Michael Brown and others. It looks to me like they are trying to stir up lots of anger and hatreds and are largely racists against whites. They don't seem to want peace, they want violence and think that it will result in some kind of other handouts... or at least, make law enforcement back off on arrests for crimes committed. They seem to want a free ride to commit crimes with law enforcement backing off and not arresting them.

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dfedack 4 years 11 weeks ago
#6

hollygolightly, I wont dispute these statistics yet I find the numbers of mass murders in the United States disturbing. The rest of the developed countries would as well, we have a higher rate of gun violence than the rest of the world. If you are comfortable with that,then carry and feel safe. I used to fear the criminal element yet its not criminals that I fear, its the law abiding citizen who isn't properly trained and reacts to a situation. Because of his or her lack of training someone innocent may get hurt. Thank you for commenting.

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dfedack 4 years 11 weeks ago
#7

palindromedary, your posts are full of references to race and the blacks having a free ride. Lets stay on task. The discussion is about mental illness-gun violence and using the government to solve them. Remember the ADA, Medicare expansion, the CDC, and the family doctor explaning the dangers of gun violence. I can explain it without sinking into racial insults. thank you for commenting.

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