If Tom Perez is very progressive and shares basic ideology with Keith Ellison why alienate the anti-corporate, younger, wing by demanding Perez run against Ellison? I’m not the first person to ask this question…

https://newrepublic.com/article/140847/case-tom-perez-makes-no-sense

https://theintercept.com/2017/02/24/key-question-about-dnc-race-why-did-white-house-recruit-perez-to-run-against-ellison/

How is the Democratic Party going to fight corruption, end Citizen’s United, and become the party of the 99% (people) when the old guard of paid consultants and lobbyists dilute and contaminate the message by remaining shills for Wall Street?

They have to hedge their rhetoric by being “all inclusive” – meaning they will continue to represent non-human corporate banks -- against the people's interest.

Hypocrisy is an instant, non-starting, loser.

It immediately robs the Party of any true hope or passion. We didn't get the "Hope and Change" when we were fooled into thinking Mr. Obama was a pure candidate for US. We found out, for example, he wouldn't advocate for us against the destructive banks which devastated our country. We refuse to be suckers again. No one is going to the polls to vote FOR a lukewarm, better-than-nothing, message.

We require an unequivocal commitment -- like the unwavering, candidacy of Bernie Sanders that brought out such pride and devotion among his followers. Even Republicans admire and respect Senator Sanders. How many Democrats are truly respected today?

A hypocritical message is why Democrats lost (or, actually, couldn’t win by enough to overcome Republican dirty tricks) last time. Not Russia or eMails.

It’s the Hypocrisy, stupid.

You can smell it miles away.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/tom-perez-dnc-chair/

What I found so disheartening is the same old tired, wishy-washy, message of corporate appeasement.

In a rambling, superficial, tone-deaf, speech equating the distinctions between participants as no different than which ball team one supports, Perez went on to speak of how we win when we lead with “our values”.

What kind of corrupt Wall Street appeasing, “values” are those, Tom, and how are we going to “win” with a half-ass, Republican-lite, message? Give me a break.

Those are the Lack of Values that continue to plague and weigh down the Party causing Democrats to lose.

It’s called: Hypocrisy.

Rather than illuminating the distinction between (FDR/LBJ) Democrats and the wholly Corrupt, Corporate PAC owned, Republican Party of Reagan; Perez’s focus was on “beating Trump”. Again proof of their inept, short-sighted, hypocritical strategy.

Democrats know they can’t speak out against Republican corruption because they, too, are taking money from the same hog trough. So they talk about Trump and Russia.

It’s the hypocrisy, Stupid.

You can’t pretend to support “the people” while you support the top 10% “liberal” elite.

That’s the glaring Lie that will always make US losers.

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2017/02/tom-perez-elected-head-dnc.html

I’m not totally naïve but I would love to be part of an honest Democratic Party. At least as honest as FDR or LBJ and everyone knows they were far from perfect or free from corruption. But they served the American People, not the Banks.

The stinking taint of hypocrisy cannot be covered up with sweet, empty, rhetoric.

You can’t serve two masters.

Until the Democratic Party makes a Complete and Total Break from big money they will continue to be a hedge party, who has to lie and calibrate their speech in order to ride both sides of the fence.

Pick a side. Be socially-liberal, corporately corrupted, Republicans, or be the (FDR/LBJ) party of the new American people.

But choose quickly because you can’t have it both ways and we don’t have any more time – to LOSE.

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Coalage3 1 year 20 weeks ago
#1

I seriously doubt the democratic party of FDR or LBJ would have been supporting Keith Ellison.

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Dianereynolds 1 year 20 weeks ago
#2

The selection and election of Keith Ellison would have been sucide for what is left of the Democrat party.

FACTS for the bore ass woman hater,

"Top Democrats literally unmoved by tribute to widow of fallen Navy SEAL Ryan Owens"

http://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2017/02/28/top-democrats-literally-unmove...

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c-gull 1 year 20 weeks ago
#3

I cannot understand why people keep trying to rejuvinate the Democratic party. It is a done deal. We need a new party that has not had the opportunity to get corrupt.

Did you see congress applauding Trump- how much more hypocritical can they get. If I had a hypocrisy meter it would have pegged out and started smoking.

Hey if we all wear Groucho funny face glasses and mustaches we could have the --New Marxist party.

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Roland de Brabant 1 year 20 weeks ago
#4

Right on, C-gull! The corruption within the Democratic Party is amazing. PantSuitonFire, Devious Debbie, Donna Brazile and John Podesta are still running it. The DNC has no shame.

Roland

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k. allen 1 year 19 weeks ago
#5

I do not believe it serves accuracy, or awareness to target individuals with blame for the way things go in politics. We all are responsible for our own personal choices, and people who take on positions of responsibility in government carry that burden of choosing for the many - right or wrong ... still, many people are involved, and policies are constructed and implemented over extended periods of time, and changing administrations.

I still find it interesting that outspoken women who have devoted their lives to challenging corruption wind up having to wear it like slop poured on them from the third balcony. If they did bend or break rules to 'push the river' in these games that nobody can win, they would not be the first, or only ones.

Bernie didn't lie ... but, could he defeat the lie and transplant it with the truth? Maybe, but not this time around. Real change takes time, and process. If I want to pick a name from the hat, of someone who represents the face of corruption in the Democratic Party, I'd be more likely to choose someone like Richard Shelby.

But, who knows, he could be just another fresh faced hopeful who got into politics to serve his generation's brand of 'hope and change.'

Here we are, after the fact. Is the system corrupt? Are people corrupt? Is the system a way of testing people to see if they will succumb to temptation and corruption? If so, what has to change - people? ... the system? ... both, in tandem?

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Alberto Ceras 2 1 year 19 weeks ago
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The weekend offerings from CounterPunch rate 5 stars, all of them. Here are the links to a couple representative essays plus one from The Black Agenda Report. I didn't cull and paste selections from any of them, they need to be read from top to bottom. My god, my god, the Russians are coming!

https://www.blackagendareport.com/sheep_dogging_through_trumpland

Keith Ellison: Sheep-dogging Through Trumpland

Submitted by Glen Ford on Wed, 03/01/2017 - 15:52

http://www.counterpunch.org/2017/03/03/how-much-does-it-cost-to-tell-a-lie-that-big/

MARCH 3, 2017

How Much Does It Cost to Tell a Lie That Big?

by HIROYUKI HAMADA

http://www.counterpunch.org/2017/03/03/empire-in-crisis-i-did-not-have-a-meeting-with-that-envoy/

MARCH 3, 2017

Empire in Crisis: “I Did Not Have a Meeting With That Envoy!”

by RON JACOBS

*****

And my take on the navy seal's death and his wife's very public display of grief. Public displays of joy, yes. Private displays of grief, certainly. That navy seal had just killed an eight year girl (and others). Whether directly from his rifle or not he killed her. Where was the uS's public expression of grief for that young girl? Can you imagine that situation reversed, say a seal from Yemen had invaded the u.S., killed an eight year old child while the Yemenis shed tears for their dead seal? It isn't just Trump that's bonkers, it's the entire u.S.

One more note, from yesterday's Democracy Now, on the u.S.'s Yemeni attack:

...the raid in Yemen that cost the life of a Navy SEAL and killed 25 civilians, including nine children under the age of 13.

From the song of another epoch: "In the meantime, in between times, ain't we got fun?"

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k. allen 1 year 19 weeks ago
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I hear you, Alfredo. I was not willing to bring a child into this sick, twisted world so full of treachery and corruption. Those who do take this audacious step may feel justified, one way or another. After all, it is natural. So is love. Only, in this world, love - like truth - is too often maligned and denied.

So are children. How can humanity transcend the pits of ignorance, fear and hatred? Can we start working to be aware of the impact our actions have on the lives of others - especially the young?

Why is one person's life, and suffering more important than another? Why are heroes praised, martyrs remembered, and the many who die in their wake ... forgotten ... especially the young who never live to be remembered?

Are we breeding bloodlines for the vampires of the universe?

I thought that display of long applause, while meant as a tribute to a fallen soldier, and a salute to his widowed bride in the minds and hearts of many, still ... to me, it was like rubbing salt in an open wound - especially, in light of the father's expressed objections to the whole fiasco.

While the media weaves effluent strains of praise, I feel it was a blatant, obscene exploitation of personal pain to showcase and promote patriotic pride, and, a 'record breaking' photo op for a guy who loves an audience and milks it like a cow ... sort of a passive aggressive 'pussy grab' if you will ....

He thinks it makes him look good.

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Alberto Ceras 2 1 year 19 weeks ago
#8

Well said, k.allen. Thanks for sharing your insight.

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k. allen 1 year 19 weeks ago
#9

Thank you, Alberto.

I am grateful to be able to share.

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Roland de Brabant 1 year 19 weeks ago
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Quote k. allen:

I do not believe it serves accuracy, or awareness to target individuals with blame for the way things go in politics. We all are responsible for our own personal choices, and people who take on positions of responsibility in government carry that burden of choosing for the many - right or wrong ... still, many people are involved, and policies are constructed and implemented over extended periods of time, and changing administrations.

It is most helpful to condemn political leaders who, like Herbert Hoover, do tremendous harm. And it is more important to denounce those who get elected using lies. Nixon had a "secret plan" to end the Viet Nam War. Not only had he sabotaged Johnson's peace efforts, but most Americans and most Vietnamese who died in that war died during the Nixon Administration. Is there anyone who could deny that Nixon was evil incarnate?

As far as "extended periods of time", that all depend upon public apathy and leadership. It did not take FDR long to turn America around.

Quote K. Allen:I still find it interesting that outspoken women who have devoted their lives to challenging corruption wind up having to wear it like slop poured on them from the third balcony. If they did bend or break rules to 'push the river' in these games that nobody can win, they would not be the first, or only ones.

You must be talking about PantSuitonfire, that paragon of hypocrisy and corruption. You do not even need to separate her speeches from her actions; she was a traveling saleswoman for the fracking industry. If one does ignore her speeches, one finds a woman more aggressive, belligerent and reckless than any Republican. Overthrowing the governments of Libya and Ukraine, and the attempted "regime change" in Syria were her doing, as was the creation of DAESH as a proxy. (The US has a pretty shaky record with proxies.) She was also responsible for the creation of the most undemocratic DLC.

Sure, the are too many hypocritical corrupt politicians, but that "everybody does it" is absolutely no reason to let any one of them off the hook. The way to deal with copperheads or rats is to kill them one at time until they are gone.

Quote K. Allen:Bernie didn't lie ... but, could he defeat the lie and transplant it with the truth? Maybe, but not this time around. Real change takes time, and process. If I want to pick a name from the hat, of someone who represents the face of corruption in the Democratic Party, I'd be more likely to choose someone like Richard Shelby.

Bernie did defeat the lies, but got no coverage; that cannot be blamed upon him, but rather upon those who conspired to keep him in the shadows. Unfortunately, his campaign had to grow by word of mouth; it is amazing he did so well under the circumstances. And that shows the hunger of the public for good decent leadership.

Naming hypocritical corrupt politicians is too easy, naming those who excel most at it difficult, even limiting oneself to the living. After HRC I would put Mitch McConnell and Charles Schumer.

Quote K. Allen:But, who knows, he could be just another fresh faced hopeful who got into politics to serve his generation's brand of 'hope and change.'

Here we are, after the fact. Is the system corrupt? Are people corrupt? Is the system a way of testing people to see if they will succumb to temptation and corruption? If so, what has to change - people? ... the system? ... both, in tandem?

Yes, yes, and too metaphysical. Things will continue to deteriorate until the people have had enough and demand change. When Rome collapsed it took four hundred years of starvation and misery before things began to improve, however slightly.

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Roland de Brabant 1 year 19 weeks ago
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Quote k. allen:

I hear you, Alfredo. I was not willing to bring a child into this sick, twisted world so full of treachery and corruption. Those who do take this audacious step may feel justified, one way or another. After all, it is natural. So is love. Only, in this world, love - like truth - is too often maligned and denied.

May I recommend Rashomon? Or maybe Life is Beautiful?

Roland

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Alberto Ceras 2 1 year 19 weeks ago
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Quote Roland de Brabant:

May I recommend Rashomon? Or maybe Life is Beautiful?

Roland

And may I recommend Conrad's "Heart of Darkness" or Kazuo Ishiguro's "Never Let Me Go" or Ahmed Ali's anthology of Urdu poetry, "The Golden Tradition" or any of Cormac McCarthy's novels? Nevil Shute's "On the Beach" perhaps? "Antigone"?

Maybe better known to TH folks, there's John Boyne's The Boy in the Striped Pajamas

“The multiplication of our kind borders on the obscene; the duty to love them, on the preposterous.”
Emil Cioran

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k. allen 1 year 19 weeks ago
#13

"It did not take FDR long to turn America around."

Are you saying all we need is another world war, major economic depression, deportations, disease epidemics, 400 years of starvation and famine ... more war ..., maybe this time around, America will get it right?


"Bernie did defeat the lies, but got no coverage; that cannot be blamed upon him, but rather upon those who conspired to keep him in the shadows."

I agree with that. Only, are you saying Bernie got almost no media coverage, while Trump was on air, even when he wasn't, as other candidates received less attention than Trump's car ..., and Hillary Clinton was to blame?

Is there anything this woman has not done to drag us all into hell?

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Roland de Brabant 1 year 19 weeks ago
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Quote k. allen:

"It did not take FDR long to turn America around."

Are you saying all we need is another world war, major economic depression, deportations, disease epidemics, 400 years of starvation and famine ... more war ..., maybe this time around, America will get it right?

I hope not. I hope that two years of Trump may be enough.

Quote K. Allen:

"Bernie did defeat the lies, but got no coverage; that cannot be blamed upon him, but rather upon those who conspired to keep him in the shadows."

I agree with that. Only, are you saying Bernie got almost no media coverage, while Trump was on air, even when he wasn't, as other candidates received less attention than Trump's car ..., and Hillary Clinton was to blame?

Is there anything this woman has not done to drag us all into hell?

Pretty much. as the emails disclosed Hillary and Debbie actively encouraged the blackout and, encouraged more coverage of Trump (thinking that this would help them).

She never did get to the same level of treachery as Nixon, Reagan or Bush, however.

Roland

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Alberto Ceras 2 1 year 19 weeks ago
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Quote Alberto Ceras 2:
Quote Roland de Brabant:

May I recommend Rashomon? Or maybe Life is Beautiful?

Roland

And may I recommend Conrad's "Heart of Darkness" or Kazuo Ishiguro's "Never Let Me Go" or Ahmed Ali's anthology of Urdu poetry, "The Golden Tradition" or any of Cormac McCarthy's novels? Nevil Shute's "On the Beach" perhaps? "Antigone"?

Maybe better known to TH folks, there's John Boyne's The Boy in the Striped Pajamas

“The multiplication of our kind borders on the obscene; the duty to love them, on the preposterous.”
Emil Cioran

There's another novel I might have included, one I read years ago while in Australia. Sure, the scene is Australia and it might be too much to expect xenophobic uSans to "get it" and, yes, it's a very long read but just in case:

Poor Fellow My Country

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Gibbon 1 year 19 weeks ago
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Can you imagine that situation reversed, say a seal from Yemen had invaded the u.S., killed an eight year old child while the Yemenis shed tears for their dead seal? It isn't just Trump that's bonkers, it's the entire U.S. -- Alberto Ceras

How blind can I be to be disturbed on so many levels watching that woman tearfully smile (as she's being lied to for political gain) -- to think of so many angles but not see the ultimate Truth of those innocent "expendable" Kids -- just like OUR precious children -- being Murdered by a system so disgusting it uses Murder as a symbol of pride. We must open our fucking eyes.

Thx Al.

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k. allen 1 year 19 weeks ago
#17

Gibbon, you got that straight ... and yet, people are pouring across the boundaries, eager to make their fortune in "THE FREE WORLD", as others demonstrate to "LET THEM IN!!"

It's the ALL-AMERICAN PRIDE PARADE!!!

Wait a minute. Isn't that an example of 'cognitive dissonance'?

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Alfredo, thank you for all the references! I wonder if you could assemble a bibliography of materials you consider to be relevant, and vital to cultural awareness. I would link to it in a quick minute.

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rs, same to you - you sure know your music! Your poetic appreciation of life's innuendos and subtleties often is lost in the tidal waves of rage and indignation that hit the page.

I get it. At least, in my own path ... I have broken hands, feet, head and wall over decades of despair ... The more I see and hear from others - full spectrum - the more I recognize I only know what _I_ know ... from my own experience in life.

All the more reason to keep listening and learning - and I do appreciate hearing real debate, presenting as many sides of an argument as possible, so the dialogue (and its subject matter) do not descend into roiling pits of indigestion and degrading irrelevance.

First and foremost, how to heal this dys-functional body of ours?

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Roland, thank you for your detailed responses. Your comments provoke thought and invite questions. I don't have time, or wherewithal to engage in extended conversation online. I hope you guys can find a way to hear each others' hearts, and communicate.

It could help.

Per one of your comments on another thread, I am way past impatient - as is my whole self, which is screaming at me to step away from the forum and get back to work.

So. Got to go for now.

See you folks later,

ka

rs allen 1 year 19 weeks ago
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k. allen 1 year 19 weeks ago
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Thank you, rs - I'll check it out.

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Alberto Ceras 2 1 year 19 weeks ago
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Quote k. allen:

Alfredo, thank you for all the references! I wonder if you could assemble a bibliography of materials you consider to be relevant, and vital to cultural awareness. I would link to it in a quick minute.

K allen, You might consider enrolling in a community college literature course or two. I've made a few suggestions for reading (below) that you should find be able to find in a nearby public library.

I have no idea what you’re looking for but I suggest all of Shakespeare, maybe starting here: http://shakespeare.mit.edu/richardiii/full.html

His King Lear is right at the top of my list:

http://shakespeare.mit.edu/lear/full.html

Or you can select any of his works here:

http://shakespeare.mit.edu/index.html

Read any of Joseph Conrad’s great novels: The Nigger of the 'Narcissus' (1897), Heart of Darkness (1899), Lord Jim (1900), Nostromo (1904), The Secret Agent (1907), Under Western Eyes (1911) and more.

And don’t neglect Herman Melville:

Typee: A Peep at Polynesian Life (1846)

Omoo: A Narrative of Adventures in the South Seas (1847)

Mardi: And a Voyage Thither (1849)

Redburn: His First Voyage (1849)

White-Jacket; or, The World in a Man-of-War (1850)

Moby-Dick; or, The Whale (1851)

Pierre: or, The Ambiguities (1852)

"Bartleby, the Scrivener" (1853) (short story)

The Encantadas, or Enchanted Isles (1854)

"Benito Cereno" (1855)

Israel Potter: His Fifty Years of Exile (1855)

The Confidence-Man: His Masquerade (1857)

Battle-Pieces and Aspects of the War (1866) (poetry collection)

Clarel: A Poem and Pilgrimage in the Holy Land (1876) (epic poem)

John Marr and Other Sailors (1888) (poetry collection)

Timoleon (1891) (poetry collection)

Billy Budd, Sailor (An Inside Narrative) (1891 unfinished, published posthumously in 1924; authoritative edition in 1962)

Anything at all by these great writers: Tolstoy, Turgenev, Chekhov, Dostoyevsky

The Greek Theatre and Three Athenian Tragedians: Aeschylus, Sophocles, and Euripides,

When you have finished reading all of these you might choose some contemporary works, and there are some very fine ones. I especially like R.K. Narayan.

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k. allen 1 year 19 weeks ago
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Thanks, Alberto. I'll add them to the list.

I noticed I mistakenly addressed you as Alfredo?!

I apologize. My tired mind might be better off asleep.

Ok. Take care all,

ka

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