This is in responce to Mr. Hartmann's email 10/13. (Injecting large amounts of waste water into the Earth's Arbuckle causes earthquakes. Oklahoma went from 2 earthquakes a year in 2008 to 3 a day. {It seems a pipeline or holding tanks would be of some use. The pressure at which the wastewater is pumped MUST be adjusted.}+++
Setting off earthquakes in Yellowstone would be like dropping more than 20 hydrogen bombs on the area. A third of the US will be uninhabitable.
The people proposing this as an idea are evil insane mass murderers who want to end the Earth.
The only reason politicians go along with such lunacy is money. We are at the mercy of Greed.)
From 60 Minutes
Oklahoma's rise in quakes linked to man-made causes.

The following script is from "Earthquake Alley" which aired on May 8, 2016.

Bill Whitaker is the correspondent. David Schneider, producer.
Before 2009, there were, on average, two earthquakes a year in Oklahoma that were magnitude 3 or greater. Last year, there were 907. That's right, 907.
LaRue's disposal well is one of more than 3,000 in Oklahoma. The state created a website to explain the earthquakes -- this map shows disposal wells as blue dots. The orange dots are earthquakes. When the price of oil went over a hundred dollars a barrel in 2008, oil and gas production increased dramatically. So did the amount of wastewater and earthquakes.
Bill Whitaker: What's causing these earthquakes?

Mark Zoback: What we've learned in Oklahoma is that the earthquakes that are occurring in enormous numbers are the result of wastewater injection.

Mark Zoback is professor of geophysics at Stanford University. Zoback says there are two factors behind the earthquakes. One is the large volumes of water being disposed and the other is where it all goes: deep down into a layer of earth called the Arbuckle.
Bill Whitaker: What makes this such a good place to dispose of all that water?

Mark Zoback: Well, it's very thick. It's porous, it's permeable so it can accommodate, you know, very large injection rates.

The only problem with the Arbuckle is that it sits directly on top of the crystalline basement -- a rock layer riddled with earthquake faults.

Bill Whitaker: So this water is seeping into the faults?

Mark Zoback: The water pressure is seeping into the faults. And the fault is clamped shut and the water pressure sorta pushes the two sides of the fault apart and allows the slippage to occur today, when it might not occur for thousands of years into the future.

Earthquakes are now a daily occurrence in Oklahoma, but it was three quakes in November, 2011, near the town of Prague that caught everyone's attention. One was magnitude 5.6 -- the largest in Oklahoma's history. It toppled a spire at St. Gregory's University and severely damaged 14 houses, including the one where John and Jerri Loveland live with their two children. ...
Jerri Loveland: Our bed was shaking and all you could hear was glass.

John Loveland: You know, earthquake insurance is something that you don't ever think you're gonna have to have. ... Especially in Oklahoma.

Like most Oklahomans, the Lovelands didn't have earthquake insurance and have been doing their own repairs to save money. More than four years after the quake, Jerri Loveland often resorts to simply hiding the damage.

Bill Whitaker: Doesn't that concern you? That you've got a crack like this--

Jerri Loveland: I'm afraid that if we went in and fixed these and then there was another earthquake, even a little, it's gonna crack it all and then you've done all that work for no reason.
Bill Whitaker: --covering it is fixing it?

Jerri Loveland: It's not fixing it. But that's our only choice. It's not like we have the money to bulldoze the house down and start over. That'd be great.

But it's not gonna happen. We have a mortgage. We live on one income. And I realize that that's our choice, but our choice was great when somebody else didn't screw our house up, so-- and that's proven fact that somebody did it.

It's not a natural disaster."

(This is Armageddon stuff)
From Eco Aug 22 2017

Massive Fracking Plan Near Yellowstone National Park Threatens Wildlife, Air Quality, Climate.
The Center for Biological Diversity and the Sierra Club lodged formal comments with the federal government Monday opposing a massive gas fracking project that spans 220 square miles of public land in Wyoming south of Yellowstone National Park. Massive Fracking Plan Near Yellowstone National Park Threatens Wildlife, Air Quality, Climate.
The Center for Biological Diversity and the Sierra Club lodged formal comments with the federal government Monday opposing a massive gas fracking project that spans 220 square miles of public land in Wyoming s outh of Yellowstone National Park.

"This enormous project will be a disaster for wildlife, people and the planet," said Diana Dascalu-Joffe, a senior attorney with the Center for Biological Diversity. "It will decimate habitat for animals that are already struggling and further foul the air in communities already suffering with pollution from drilling and fracking. And it locks us into decades more fossil fuel dependence, which will only worsen the climate crisis."

In their comments to the federal Bureau of Land Management (BLM) Monday, the groups said the project would destroy key wildlife habitat for greater sage grouse, prongh orn and mule deer by allowing 3,500 new gas wells, roads and other infrastructure. If approved by BLM, drilling in the 140,000-acre gas field could begin next year.

Fracking in sagebrush habitats will reduce already dwindling mule deer populations in the region. Mule deer avoid gas wells and infrastructure, which fragments and shrinks their habitat. Research shows that development of the Pinedale fracking field decimated migration routes and winter habitat, reducing mule deer populations by more than a third.

"This massive drilling project could well be the final nail in the coffin for Wyoming's historic migrations of pronghorn and mule deer, and it puts some of the largest sage grouse concentration areas in the West in serious jeopardy if it moves forward," said Bonnie Rice, senior representative with Sierra Club's Our Wild America campaign. "Drilling thousands of new wells will not only have devastating impacts on wildlife, but on local communities which already have serious air quality problems from existing oil and gas development."
Jonah Energy's plan would also drill extensively in winter habitat critical for the survival of greater sage grouse populations. That's despite substantial evidence that shows drilling within 1.75 miles of winter habitat will cause sage grouse to abandon the area.

Drilling would worsen ozone pollution in the upper Green River basin, where winter ozone levels already exceed federal health standards. The project would produce up to 440 million tons of equivalent carbon dioxide pollution. This would account for more than 1 percent of the entire remaining U.S. carbon budget needed to have a 50 percent chance of returning global average temperature rise to 1.5°C by 2100.

(NASA Thinks depressurizing Yellowstone is in order.)
National Geographic
The drill will not touch the magma, as that would cause massive depressurization and could even set Yellowstone off. It’ll sit above the magma, ten km deep in the hydrothermal fluids.
These fluids rob the magma of their heat. By adding water to the fluids, NASA will cool down the volcano's heat significantly.
It’s a fairly expensive undertaking, but the benefits would be many, apart from saving the world, the excess heat from the volcano could be used in America’s power grid.
The project will take thousands of years to see results, and by that time the initial project leaders will be dead.

(The same evil geniuses could easily make this happen. Moocs own the LA Times)

from LA Times
A potent threat of major earthquake off California's northern coast.

Risk of a monster quake and tsunami off California's North Coast is greater than researchers once thought.
March 12, 2014|By Rong-Gong Lin II and Rosanna Xia

If a 9.0 earthquake were to strike along California's sparsely populated North Coast, it would have a catastrophic ripple effect.
A giant tsunami created by the quake would wash away coastal towns, destroy U.S. 101 and cause $70 billion in damage over a large swath of the Pacific coast. More than 100 bridges would be lost, power lines toppled and coastal towns isolated. Residents would have as few as 15 minutes notice to flee to higher ground, and as many as 10,000 would perish.
Scientists last year published this grim scenario for a massive rupture along the Cascadia fault system, which runs 700 miles off shore from Northern California to Vancouver Island.
The Cascadia subduction zone is less known than the San Andreas fault, which scientists have long predicted will produce The Big One. But in recent years, scientists have come to believe that the Cascadia is far more dangerous than originally believed and have been giving the system more attention.


Thanks, Thom! It's good to have a good-hearted genious like you fighting the good fight. Thank your team, too. Gracie


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zapdam. 1 year 7 weeks ago

Experts at the European Science Foundation said volcanoes – especially super-volcanoes like the one at Yellowstone National Park, Wyoming, which has a caldera measuring 34 by 45 miles (55 by 72 km) - pose more threat to Earth and the survival of humans than asteroids, earthquakes, nuclear war and global warming.

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zapdam. 1 year 7 weeks ago

Is the Yellowstone supervolcano about to blow? Global food supply would collapse for two years, causing a mass die-off of humans

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