I fear not only for our country, but also for the world.

It is said that there are winners and losers in every election, but we have never had an election like this, and at a time of such great challenge for the US and the world. There were very few winners in this election and that includes those who voted for Trump.

Climate change is the single most important issue of our time, for the US, and the world. Before Trump, I thought the US was way too slow in actions to help mitigate the damages being brought about by climate. Now with Trump and his climate denying cabinet, more carbon that should remain in the ground is promised to be released. How can we influence India not to burn more coal when our President wants to burn more here in US? I fear the climate game is lost.

I do not have a belief in climate change. I look at the data. The data are clear, climate change is happening and the main cause is human activity. While deniers will say the climate is always changing, which is true, the rate of change is far greater than natural causes would dictate and far greater than mankind can adapt to. Deniers say the climate models are wrong and they are correct. The models are too conservative. The rate of change is happening far faster than predicted. Soon (and it is already happening) millions of people around the world will need to migrate to places less affected by climate change while facing immigration restrictions from countries around the world.

Bangladesh, a country of nearly 170 million people, is below sea level and with rising seas will be under water. Where do a 170 million people go when no country is in the mood to accept them. Bangladesh is just one of many areas of the world where climate change is having devastating effects.

Yes, I fear for our country and the world.

I am a straight male who believes in LGBTQ rights. We are about to put in place a vice president who is one of the most homophobic people living, Mike Pence; a vice president who will likely have much more power than past vice presidents. Between Trump and Pence, LGBTQ rights will be moving backwards. Attacks and insults are already beginning.

Yes, I fear for our country and the world.

I am an atheist and I do not want religion in my government. I do not believe Trump has any true faith, but Pence is, in my opinion, a radical Christian who believes in “intelligent design”. For the second in line to the Presidency to be ignorant of science is scary.

Yes, I fear for our country and the world.

I am a 60-year-old black male. When I was young, I was not allowed to go to certain places, as there were “whites only” signs. I attended an all-black school through grade four as we had segregated schools in my home state of Delaware through 1966. Since Trump's election, we have white nationalist openly calling for white’s only areas in our country.

Yes, I fear for our country and the world.

The jobs Trump promises to bring back to this country will not happen. Trump may bring back some token jobs, but that’s all. I know Trump wants to seal the borders to stop illegal immigration, but where is his plan to stop robots from entering the work place? Where is his plan to stop self-driving trucks from entering the work force, which surely will replace many truckers in the future?

Yes, I fear for our country and the world.

Social unrest will be common as the pressures of climate change, immigration, job lost and race play out through the years to come.

Mike

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mingram55 50 weeks 6 days ago
#1

ok

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TomDorr 50 weeks 5 days ago
#2

Mingram : Your fears are, fortunately, unwarranted. The U.S. is not the only nation in the world. If all the other nations understand the "urgency" of climate change, they will take action and the US will follow. However, it is ludicrous to think that if the US makes significant sacrifices and sacrifices jobs and comfort, the world will happily follow.

If Bangladesh goes under water, the African Union will certainly make sure the 170 million in Bangladesh will be taken care of by their continental brothers and sisters. Just read the African union website to see how powerful and self-determinant it will be. Africa doesn't need the help of western nations to help with climate change refugees.

You stated you are an athiest and are for LGBTQ "rights" . Thats fine. However, i am a Christian who believes that without "religion" ( Judeo-Christian) in our government, there would still be slavery and a true Darwinistic stance to social policy.

You fear those who believe in "intelligent design". Does this mean you are an adherent to strict evolution and the belief of "survival of the fittest?"

I am a Christian who believes in intelligent design: that a supreme being developed evolution. If, as an athiest you believe in strict evolution, you would, I think, understand that 170 million Bangladesh people perishing under tidal increases, as well as the LGBT "community" being ostracised as a biologically unsustainable group of aberrants, would be 'logical".

Please don't fear the results of this election. The middle class Judeo/Christian majority that prevailed in this election will improve the world (for Americans), allow the African Union to solve Africa's propblems without US interference (or money), and allow the JGBT "community" to keep the rights they deserve.

Coalage1 50 weeks 4 days ago
#3

However, for the use of that 25%, we generate 36% of the world's economic activity. Not a bad ratio.

And what do you propose that the "world" does about climate change?

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mingram55 50 weeks 4 days ago
#4

Stop using dirty energy and start using clean energy. Is extinction worth economic activity, especially when it can be done with clean energy? And yes, I do think it is that bad.

It can be done.

Look at the data. It will not be possible for mankind to survive if we release all of the carbon in the ground. I do not know how some do not get this.

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k. allen 50 weeks 4 days ago
#6


(Coalage1 - #4)

"And what do you propose that the "world" does about climate change?"


(mingram55 - #5)

"Stop using dirty energy and start using clean energy. Is extinction worth economic activity, especially when it can be done with clean energy? And yes, I do think it is that bad.


It can be done.

Look at the data. It will not be possible for mankind to survive if we release all of the carbon in the ground. I do not know how some do not get this."

I don't get it either, unless it is that people are too scared, and feel too helpless to look up and admit we don't know it all - just for starters - so, now, what to do ...?

Coalage, have you explored the practical wisdom of permaculture?
I mean, if you're serious about that question, that would be a good place to look for good ideas (imo). I hope you can find time to explore these links:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eUlXskhpMfs

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YBLZmwlPa8A

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eH1s9GCqPKo

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pK7Eeoypxfc

..., here, this is for dessert ...:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1qT-rOXB6NI

The question I have is, what can influence human appetites and activities to ease up on the overkill so people can free themselves from those yokes and learn to cultivate grounds of true peace and prosperity. Is that so over the top?

pkrause12249 50 weeks 3 days ago
#7

Here something to add to your fears... Climate Change will never be in the budget... A Balance Budget Amendment is going to be the on the agenda soon...

This is true... The Republicans are about to re-write the constitution in major ways...

This is there first idea, but this budget control measure leads into and creates the path on how to efficiently change the constitution for their other agenda items...

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/01/_libera...

If passed there will be needs for other Amendments to the constitution or will this law create a method to enslave government workers or citizens at the will of the budget.

Once passed this may lead into Amendments or changes in the law for Mandatory Military Service to cut cost on recruiting the military this will lead to lower salaries for Military Service people that will even cut veterans benefits because everyone was performing their civil service... you know like jury duty pay...

Federal Government unions may become unconstitutional under this law because of the requirement to balance the budget.

Permanent Austerity for all and forever...

As the great Senator from Kentucky Mitch McConnell states over and over, "I believe we have term limits they are called election".

I believe we already have budget control measures it is called elections. If people do not like deficit spending or creating debt to run the government then vote the politician out of office.

The last time there was a super majority to pass a budget or balanced budget amendment during the Civil War the confederate states had a constitution... This constitution also forbids taxes collected to be spent on a competitive industry... So no money for climate change...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confederate_States_Constitution

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mingram55 50 weeks 2 days ago
#8

pkrause12249,

I understand what you mean by saying climate change will never be in the budget. However, what you really mean is in the planned budget.

Climate change will most definitely be in the budget. It just depends on what we call it. Is it in drought relief for farmers? Is it in emergency relief for storm victims? Is it in defense spending for migration caused by unrest/terrorism? And the many other questions that will be posed.

Climate change will be in the budget, no matter what Trump and Republicans do. They will just dress it up in some fake news story.

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zapdam 50 weeks 2 days ago
#9

Quote TomDorr " The U.S. is not the only nation in the world. If all the other nations understand the "urgency" of climate change, they will take action and the US will follow. However, it is ludicrous to think that if the US makes significant sacrifices and sacrifices jobs and comfort, the world will happily follow."

You know TomDorr , i really like you, i think you're an intelligent person, a man who is honorable, perhaps not so kind or empathetic. But some of things that you write , are just bizzare, like the one i just quoted above. That's what's more troubling, that some one like you could believe what you write.

Coalage1 50 weeks 1 day ago
#10

Start using clean energy. Gee if it's that simple, why didn't somebody else think of this first?

pkrause12249 50 weeks 1 day ago
#11

This probably will not help your fears...

There is a book out there written a long time about a Authoritive Government taking over America... Title "It can happen here"

It is time for the United States of America and the World to see that it has happened here...

It has happened here...

While the NSA and FBI was looking at everyone's email they forgot to see how big money in politics was playing into politics in America. Government oversight of hiring process may have also played into filling many government authorities positions or law enforcement with no diversity in political beliefs or cultures.

It has happened here...

So, how did it happen?

This process did not start in one election it has been a process of many years.

The old wealthy plantation owners of the south rode in on the Trojan Horse of the Republican party... Have you ever seen the Lincoln picture with Republicans freed the slaves... that answer is, so complex to state the Republicans freed the slave is not true and certainly not the Republican party of today... Republicans in origination opposed leadership of hierarchies(Wealthy billionaires and Millionaires) and championed the common person to be in politics...

If Trump or any billionaire or millionaire were true to their republican routes they would have taken an average person and championed them to the White House and all ranks of Senators and House Representatives.

The Wealthy plantation owners that needs slaves and low wage earners to stay in control of the wealth of this nation are in power today.

The best answer I can find or realize is that freeing of slaves happened because 620,000 soldiers died to decide freedom in this country for all. The war started because wealthy plantation owners did not want to lose their property and their method of making money caused other men and other people to suffer to protect their property rights and wealth.

pkrause12249 50 weeks 1 day ago
#12

How did it happen?

Civil War was a turning point from states rights and local economies to one nation in a global economy.

1950s and 1960s were times of huge civil unrest in this nation. There was a slowing of this plan... Riots against treatment of people and Riots against people refusing to go to War at their will of their government.

The wealthy of this nation are controlling politics and it is a threat to National Security of the United States of America.

How did it happen?

Education steadily increase in price making it more unaffordable to people to attend college or further their education. But the loans taken out to pay for college creates a steady income stream for the wealthy and becomes a hidden tax paid to keep the government operational.

Economy of the 1970s fueled their political action plan. Stagflation - this where inflation and interest rate rise. The interest rates rising with money going into banks and into wealthy people's accounts. The inflation just the cost of everything going up this keeps money going back into the wealthy control too. This money gathered through this time fueled the globalization effort and competing with low wages from other countries. This would later be used to destabilize the working family from one income to two incomes to 2016 where three generations in some communities live under one roof.

The strategies of keep the working family poor and struggle was of utmost importance to keep working families to hard to actually follow politics and know the truth. But also, to keep the slogan simple to follow "Tax Cuts" and "More Jobs"... Wealthy get the tax cuts and people get lower paying jobs as higher paying job to other countries to be paid less. Then there is the huge shipping freighters that pump out the most dirty of fuels on this planet. This dirty fuel is oil creating another steady income stream for the wealthy.

By this time in the 1990s Wealthy had three steady income streams of wealth from the American worker Oil(energy in general), Mortgages and Student loans, profits from the sale of goods sold here made from other countries.

Then come the crisis of times 911 and economy collapses.

911 the terrorism attacks on world trade center in New York City.

This put all citizens under suspicion of Terrorism giving up 4th amendment rights to unreasonable search and seizures. Almost automatically people were okay with having all phone records monitored and recorded. Also, having more cameras placed in public spaces using facial recognition technology. Also,

It was sold by the Media to the people as "The New Normal"

There is an election that used misinformation and foreign source propaganda to influence an election. This hopefully stays regulated in the hands of the private sector, but why wasn't fake news or the risk of fake news talked about until after 2016 presidential election... is the 1st Amendment the next right to be ignored or eliminated.

There are protest showing no humanity by police on protesters such as chemical sprays on protesters just sitting there and water cannon used on protesters in 28 degree temperatures. This causes me to question will the police or the military stop if the government asks them to raid and round up average citizens or will they attack. Two moments of history that changed the world. One is "Tank Man" from china a person stood in front of a Military Convoy of Tanks and was able to stop them from moving forward. That is a brave man to stand in front of the tanks but it takes a brave soldier to question orders and stop the tank.

The other moments or moments in history were the Berlin wall coming down. The soldiers on the guard towers could have fire upon their fellow citizens, but they did not and the wall fell down and a new era of peace happened for the world.

The other moment tied into the same time were russian soldiers that bravely refused to fire on their own country and fellow citizens ending the USSR.

If the police and United States Military are called to fire on their own citizens will they fire upon their own citizens. The national guard has been called to replace or back up local police during times of civil unrest. But, during the time Katrina hurricane a Military General had to walk into a Military presence and order his men to lower their weapons and remind his soldiers that they are deployed for humanity relief not war.

It is a question and I have concern? Because some soldiers in private conversation believe that the common citizen would not fight to defend their country. I think they are wrong people are always willing to protect their fellow citizen. People may not always protect government, but will always protect their neighbors. I would expect that all, but hope some realize that their mission is to protect their fellow citizen and not government. The 2nd Amendment was created to insure a free state and the right for a state to organize militia. Not for the United States Government to create the most powerful military force on this planet to be used against their own people of the United States of America.

How did it happen?

Demonize segments of the population to divide the populations.

The education system is key to control in a society. If the school I went to did not value voting and civic engagement and my family too. I would not know to question authority and government. I would not know to vote and the importance of voting.

Charter schools are seen as selecting the best of a population and that is the reason for success in Charter schools. This is not true Charter Schools are often exempt from state required testing or if there is a testing day they make sure only the best students take that test. The other students stay home. The entrance exam to these charter school could be hiding personality question to identify qualities that are desired to best be obedient citizens. The person graduates from school with a specific school name and the computers allow for hire and taken on the successful path of life. The public schools are unknown a more difficult life is granted and for the most undesirable states testing causes failure of exam and causes drop out in the education system. Sounds impossible doesn't it.

Subsided sporting events. Everyone sees the headlines another stadium is getting millions of dollars in public funds to build a stadium. Millionaires and Billionaires own the teams they should see enough money in tickets at $100 a seat to pay for the stadium and teams salary. But competitive sports are important get people to crave the feeling of winning, so when it comes to election time your team wins and it feels good. Instead of knowing the issues people vote for their team and their team wins, so that feels good.

Have to the court system declare money as speech @SCOTUS this decision allows for uncapped funding of the political system from all the corners of the world. It is actually illegal for foreign countries and person's to invest their money into United States Political System but NSA and FBI are looking into every ones email accounts and phone records... The political system just pays back these organization during the first couple of big government contracts - this election season pay backs will be in the form of privatization of social security and Medicare. Keep in mind when the private companies pay out bonuses or go bankrupt that is fraud, waste and abuse too.

Takes me back to the days of the soviets always looking for the saboteur or people sabotaging the soviet union or the government.

Interesting enough the other day I realized looking at a quote from a Holocaust museums. The Nazi came for the socialist first. Nazis were not socialist.

Convince people that protesting is "Economic Terrorism".

Convince people that freedom of the press is harmful to democracy. Have you heard about the well planned out fake news propaganda used to get a President Elected in the United States supported by Russia and was making deal by email before he was elected.

I sure someone of Wealth and Power in the United States has said this... Say what you want about communism, but look at China and Russia their people know how to show respect for authority.

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mingram55 50 weeks 1 day ago
#13

Since election day I have been pondering “How did it happen?"

Trump told us the election was rigged. He just did not spell it out that it was for him.

A small group of people have taken over this country, and they did it in the light; The Russians, the FBI, Wiki leaks, fake news, voter suppression and who knows what else.

Unfortunately, I don’t think most people are paying attention.

Scary times are ahead.

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mingram55 50 weeks 1 day ago
#14

Coalage1, you do know it is possible to use clean energy, right? It's getting easier and easier every day.

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mingram55 50 weeks 1 day ago
#15

Can we get a do over?

Coalage1 50 weeks 18 hours ago
#16

Using aternative energy sources as replacement for more traditional power sources is happening every day. The problem lies in the cost. Doing this on a massive country wide, or even global scale, is just simply not feasible or economical. That's why it only happens a little at a time as the technology improves which allows the cost to come down.

Your problem is that you want everything to be done at once, and right now. That is not going to work, nor is it even possible.

Baby steps....and no I don't thinkt the planet is going to disappear in the meantime.

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mingram55 50 weeks 15 hours ago
#17

Coalage1, not I am not saying do it all at once. I am saying there is no need in bringing in more dirty fuel sources, like tar sands or burning more coal.

You are right the planet will not disappear, but people will.

Coalage1 50 weeks 11 hours ago
#18

No they won't. What you ask for is already being done.

pkrause12249 50 weeks 9 hours ago
#19

Interesting article in the Washington Post comparing 1933 Germany today in USA...

I think the article notices the similarities and highlights something I have been thinking about... That America is one maybe two terrorist attacks from giving sweeping authority to the government similar to 1933s.

As I have mentioned before these attacks must be ignored and the American people must be strong and get the wealthy out of power. This would allow for the American people to truly understand the truth and go from there on a path of peace and a new direction for energy and food independence. This would create tremendous amount of jobs locally and in America to just become energy and food independent.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trump-isnt-hitler-but-the-united...

This is a good movie to watch and compare... We as Americans must prevent this from America...

https://www.amazon.com/Third-Reich-Rise-Fall/dp/B0049TC8CQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=...

https://www.amazon.com/Cant-Happen-Here-Signet-Classics/dp/0451465644/re...

Famous quote as mentioned above...

https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007392

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k. allen 49 weeks 6 days ago
#20

(Coalage - #3)


"And what do you propose that the "world" does about climate change?"

Maybe I misread you, Coalage ... are you asking what can we do, or how do we convince people to accept changes in their lives and behaviors - and, what might those changes be?

You got three people offering perspective and reference materials, in all sincerity. Is this your only takeaway from the links provided:

(Coalage - #10)


"Start using clean energy. Gee if it's that simple, why didn'tsomebody else think of this first?"

...?

Very coy.

Of course, this idea is 'old as the hills and twice as dusty' ... probably why we still hear about it now, after centuries of suppression by interest groups invested in what you refer to as "more traditional power sources" ... I think the sun, wind, waters and geothermal dynamics probably predate those 'traditional' technologies.

I also think there are highly efficient technologies (also ancient) available to an enlightened human population, and wee people are being tested, and sorted according to our ways ... as we all go our own ways ..., and life goes on ....


(Coalage - #16)
"Using aternative energy sources as replacement for more traditional power sources is happening every day. The problem lies in the cost. Doing this on a massive country wide, or even global scale, is just simply not feasible or economical. That's why it only happens a little at a time as the technology improves which allows the cost to come down."

Only, what determines what costs are counted, and how measured, by whom? It seems to me (at least, in this economic paradigm) the cost is, and always will be insurmountable, if I read this clearly - that's what keeps the wheel turning - generation after generation - as we roll all over hell and tarnation with our unbridled appetites and ambitions.


(Coalage - #18)

(mingram55 - #17)
"Coalage1, not I am not saying do it all at once. I am saying there is no need in bringing in more dirty fuel sources, like tar sands or burning more coal.

You are right the planet will not disappear, but people will."


"No they won't. What you ask for is already being done."

Right. Here and there. More and more. And it can, and will be more ... which is why I do not understand why existing energy interests don't want to transfer their investments to ecologically sound investments - regionally, and globally. It makes so much sense to do.

Do we have wrangle and tangle endlessly?

What a waste!

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mingram55 49 weeks 6 days ago
#21

An Open Letter from Scientists to President-Elect Trump on Climate Change

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/an-open-letter-from-sc...

Coalage1 49 weeks 6 days ago
#22

Just like everything else, you have to be able to make money. The economic model for widespread use of alternative fuels and power generation does not yet allow for profit sustainability, especially in the poorer countries. But it will come.

The money has to come from somewhere, which means that alternatives have to be able to pay for themselves (and then some). It will happen, but it won't be tomorrow.

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k. allen 49 weeks 5 days ago
#23

If clean energy and permaculture alternatives are subsidized the way oil/gas industries are, it can happen a lot faster and sooner. What's the hang up? Who gets credit? Who gains control - over whom ...? I really don't care who gets credit ... let's just get it done.

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mingram55 49 weeks 5 days ago
#24

Trump's cabinet picks are not helping me to calm down.

Legend 49 weeks 4 days ago
#25

Yeah, this ones great.

Scott Pruitt

The Cabinet picks are the Fascist Party Dream Team.

and this one:

World Wrestling Entertainment Executive

http://crooksandliars.com/2016/12/yup-not-dimes-worth-difference

pkrause12249 49 weeks 4 days ago
#26

One reason the election results of 2016 voter suppression associated with domestic violence. The more aggressive person of the household accompany their spouse and watches the spouse vote.

A conversation, I realised that the less aggressive person in a relationship may have just capitulated to the aggressor and voted to match.

So domestic violence either physical or emotional may have played an important role determining the outcome of this race.

Coalage1 49 weeks 4 days ago
#27

I give you guys credit...your imaginations run wild. I have never heard so many excuses (except of course for the ones that really matter).

Legend 49 weeks 4 days ago
#28

I notice that our right wing Trolls do not seem to comment on any of the Cabinet posts.

Legend 49 weeks 4 days ago
#30

Another source:

http://crooksandliars.com/2016/12/congress-plans-total-destruction-social

Where are our right wing Trolls? Diane? Coalage? Tomnofacts? etc.

Legend 49 weeks 4 days ago
#31

For all of you gray hairs in the Trump audiences:

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/gop-introduces-plan-to-massively-cut-...

Dianereynolds, care to comment?

Legend 49 weeks 3 days ago
#32

Why are the right wing trolls not commenting on the cabinet appointments or the above articles? Is it going the way that you planned? A lot more surprises are on the horizon.

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mingram55 49 weeks 3 days ago
#33

Coalage1,

You really think these are excuses. Are you lookin at his cabinet picks? These fears are real for me.

I struggle to understand you. Do you really think DT is up to the job?

Legend 49 weeks 2 days ago
#34
Legend 49 weeks 2 days ago
#35

Secretary of State Nominee Rex Tillerson. Middle class values? Because he is above the $23000 annual salary that requires time and one half for overtime for a salareid worker it makes the math simple. Lets say he averages 70 hours per week. 33000000/52/70 = $9066 per hour.

More

Trolls are sure quite.

Legend 49 weeks 1 day ago
#36
Coalage1 49 weeks 1 day ago
#37

Whether DT is up to the job, or not, remains to be seen, doesn't it? I was not glad to hear that Bolton may get a deputy slot at the state dept. Bad move. He is like Hillary...a war monger. Secretary of Labor pick is a little bizarre for me as well.

People tend to forget that cabinet selections tend to come and go with surprising regularity.

Legend 49 weeks 1 day ago
#38
Quote Coalage1:

Whether DT is up to the job, or not, remains to be seen, doesn't it? I was not glad to hear that Bolton may get a deputy slot at the state dept. Bad move. He is like Hillary...a war monger. Secretary of Labor pick is a little bizarre for me as well.

People tend to forget that cabinet selections tend to come and go with surprising regularity.

What a totally weak response. What about the 3 Warhawk generals in high positions.? So now you bury your head!

pkrause12249 48 weeks 5 days ago
#39

Trump and Putin conspired to get Trump elected in 2016

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2016/12/11/trump-denies-cia-report-russia-intervened-to-help-him-win-election/

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/12/14/putin-involved-election-hack/95453054/

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/timeline-russias-hacking-us-political-organizations-ahead-election/story?id=44140526

The TIME release or issue of the TIME in October look it up and Hilary tried several times to bring up in debates but Hilary succumbed bullied by Trump.

http://time.com/magazine/us/4512760/october-10th-2016-vol-188-no-14-u-s/

http://www.npr.org/2016/12/12/505261053/13-times-russian-hacking-came-up-in-the-presidential-campaign

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/obama-orders-review-of-russian-hacking-during-presidential-campaign/2016/12/09/31d6b300-be2a-11e6-94ac-3d324840106c_story.html

This was a massive coordinated attack over years not just the last year but for at least five years the Russian Hackers "Fancy Bear" setting up accounts and sending out "fake news" with pictures and user profiles pictures as hidden authentication. This was a massive long-term brain-washing attack of American's. Through some money onto some pundits and the result solidifies with the American people.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/15/facebook-spam-attack-photo_n_1095938.html

Then there was a cyber attack on Yahoo from 2013 that also has news and variety of other information. This information of personal information could be a friend or foe information about individual people. This could create a database used for cleansing of America.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/14/technology/yahoo-hack.html?_r=0

This was a massive information collection and manipulation over years. Donald Trump started the birther information in started in 2011 the same year of the massive FaceBook cyber attack.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/09/politics/donald-trump-birther/

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Where is Donald Trump's Worldview Leading Us?

I want to step back a little from the constant strum of the latest Trump scandal to the most recent outrage, the Trump constantly popping into the news literally every day. I don't remember this during the Obama administration or any other presidency frankly of my lifetime.

Every day they look for some way to get in the news even if it's negative.