Dear Thom Hartmann: I agree with you on nearly every issue. Here is an exception. PWL

How would marijuana legalization affect our health and safety?

By Paul W. Lovinger

Before deciding to put neatly-packaged marijuana cigarettes on store shelves or counters, consider these questions:

1. Are you willing to ride in a bus, plane, or train operated by a stoned driver, pilot, or engineer?

2. Would you entrust your life to someone, like a surgeon, who’s under the influence of an intoxicant?

3. Despite the critical health care situation, are you ready to throw another hazardous drug onto the market?

If you answered yes to all three, feel free to add marijuana to the list of drugs that are dangerous to health or safety but sold legally. Once it goes on sale in stores, expect to introduce a myriad of newcomers to the pot habit.

It is 25 years since the publication of The Marijuana Question: and Science’s Search for an Answer, which I wrote with the late Helen C. Jones, Surgeon General C. Everett Koop writing the foreword. Nearly 10,000 studies of the drug had been made, most showing some detriment to body, mind, or society. We described some 300 of them and interviewed many users, ex-users, and researchers.

Since then, the main developments have not been scientific but political: the advance of the so-called medical marijuana movement and a state-by-state drive for legalization. The old claim of harmlessness is not heard so much in the light of the many news stories and studies to the contrary. But the belief persists that marijuana, or cannabis, is less harmful than alcohol or tobacco and never caused a death. We learned otherwise long ago.

PLANE, TRAIN, AND MOTOR VEHICLE CRASHES

We detailed two fatal plane crashes in Hawaii and fatal train wrecks in Royersford, PA, and Chicago, all officially tied to marijuana intoxication. Federal records during four years turned up 29 aviation fatalities involving marijuana. Simulated flying showed marijuana impairing memory, sense of time, and concentration, causing major errors. Pilots described their panic when they suffered marijuana flashbacks in flight.

Unlike alcohol, which soon washes from the body, marijuana’s fat-soluble THC can linger for months, accumulating throughout the body, causing symptoms long after smoking. A regular smoker may never be free of it.

We also reported six surveys linking recent marijuana use to 22 percent of drivers in 1,816 fatal motor vehicle accidents. Some had used only marijuana; others added alcohol. The combination diminishes driving ability more than either substance alone.

In experiments in both simulated and real driving, marijuana diminished judgment, care, perception, concentration, and the ability to estimate time and distance. And we found that in 1976 when California decriminalized marijuana possession from a felony to a misdemeanor handled by a citation, the number of arrests for driving under the influence of drugs jumped by one-half, remaining high for years.

The drug has brought more transportation tragedies: Two Central Airlines pilots who had been smoking marijuana were killed when their plane crashed in a landing attempt at Newark’s airport in 1983. A train collision killed 16 when a Conrail operator smoked marijuana in Maryland in 1987. Five people, including a girl of 9 and workers were killed by a milk tanker driven by a marijuana smoker on a highway at San Leandro, California, in 1994. Last August, a tour bus whose driver had been smoking marijuana for days left a highway in Utah and overturned, killing three passengers and injuring 11.

Those are tips of icebergs. It is often difficult identifying marijuana smokers, and roadside tests are lacking.

STATE SAYS MARIJUANA CAUSES CANCER

The California Environmental Protection Agency’s Office of Environmental Health Hazard Assessment has added marijuana smoke to the State’s list of cancer-causing substances. In June, the Carcinogen Identification Committee of the Office’s Science Advisory Board found that “marijuana smoke was clearly shown, through scientifically valid testing according to generally accepted principles, to cause cancer.”

It agrees with our findings: Chemical analysis at different laboratories turned up considerably more of the known carcinogens in marijuana smoke than in tobacco smoke. At UCLA, sampling of airway tissues of heavy pot smokers revealed cell changes associated with the development of cancer, emphysema, and chronic bronchitis. Rodents developed cancers, including lung cancer, when injected with marijuana extracts or ingredients in laboratories in Florida and Pennsylvania. Malignant cells developed in hamster lung samples exposed to marijuana smoke in Switzerland.

Medical research had established that habitual marijuana smoking endangered the lungs. Those also smoking tobacco appeared more at risk. Heavy, prolonged use produced respiratory distress, signs of possible deficiencies in the lung’s defenses, and those ominous cell changes.

More pot deaths: We learned of several homicides by soldiers undergoing psychotic episodes upon smoking marijuana or hashish (cannabis resin). It could be worse: Among many servicemen caught with marijuana were those in the nuclear weapons program.

Fire officers said the combination of burning and intoxication represented by marijuana smoking posed a serious fire hazard. In 1981 a busboy’s joint set fire to the Las Vegas Hilton, causing eight deaths.

We showed that nonsmokers could become intoxicated by breathing smoke of nearby marijuana smokers. And nursing women transferred the drug to offspring through the milk.

SEX, BABIES, HEARTS, AND MINDS

Marijuana or THC, its chief mind-affecting compound, killed fetuses and caused other reproductive troubles when given to female animals from mice to monkeys in hundreds of experiments. Several U.S. and Canadian studies of newborn human babies and their mothers associated marijuana smoking during pregnancy with birth difficulties, limited weight, fetal alcohol syndrome, and possible nervous system abnormalities.

Marijuana or THC inhibited the male sex gland, the testis, in numerous animal studies. An aphrodisiac in men at first, the drug can have a reverse effect after heavy and prolonged smoking: causing potency problems and a reduction in male sex hormone and the quantity and possibly quality of sperm.

Marijuana smoking, like tobacco smoking, hastened angina pectoris attacks in cardiac patients. Marijuana sped the pulse far more and for a much longer time than tobacco. Some scientists found marijuana damaging chromosomes and the immune system. Subsequent research has found that HIV-positive marijuana smokers progress to full AIDS much faster than nonusers and are more likely to contract bacterial pneumonia.

The immediate mental effects of marijuana, or cannabis, have been chronicled for ages: impairment of short-term memory, perception, sense of time and distance, logical reasoning, coordination, emotions, and judgment. Even in small amounts, marijuana can trigger mental illness in susceptible individuals. That its early use heightens the risk of psychosis in adulthood was reported by Australian and UK medical journals from 2006 to 2010. Possible harm to children’s developing nervous system and mind has worried even some marijuana partisans.

ANY SMOKE IS BAD MEDICINE

Experiments, interviews, and statistical research attest that as addicts experience less satisfying “highs,” they often increase doses and try other drugs. Marijuana use usually precedes use of heroin and cocaine. The longer the marijuana use, the more likely one turns to them. Yet marijuana itself is now a “hard drug,” dozens of times stronger than it was in the 1960s, when the national drug craze began.

Isn’t marijuana “medicine?” The medical profession finds no use for marijuana, the dried plant material. No legitimate physician tells a patient to start smoking. Inhalation of any smoke harms the lungs. Synthetic THC, in capsule form, is available for the few patients needing antiemetics who don’t respond to standard remedies.

“Medical marijuana” is not scientific reality but a political achievement by pro-pot activists. In 1979, R. Keith Stroup, the head of the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws, told the newspaper of Emory University in Atlanta that “we are trying to get marijuana reclassified medically…. We’ll be using the issue as a red herring to give marijuana a good name.”

Some say marijuana should be legal because tobacco and alcohol are, which is like saying three wrongs make a right. It’s just as logical to reduce booze and butts to the status of pot. That is politically unlikely despite the tragedies all three substances cause. But we can prevent a new blow to the people’s health and safety.

Paul W. Lovinger is a San Francisco writer and journalist. He was a reporter and columnist for newspapers for over 20 years. With Helen C. Jones, widow of a Berkeley medical professor, he made a three-year study of the drug and wrote The Marijuana Question (1985).

Comments

makuck's picture
makuck 9 years 12 weeks ago
#1

But it's less dangerous than alcohol or tobacco. It's about choosing what we can put in our own bodies.

As far as doing surgery while intoxicated.. if a surgeon is caught with THC in their system they would probably loose their license, just like if they were caught drunk.

Pot is fuel, food, fiber, drug, and recreation. It's one of the most efficient converters of energy into cellulose, and can grow in the ditches of Nebraska with no water, unlike water intensive corn, which is currently only food/fuel, and not very efficient at either.

There are other ways to ingest pot without smoking it, smoking anything can cause cancer, even wood burning in a fireplace. I don't know why an AIDS patient would be smoking anything. They'd get sick if they smoked tobacco or drank booze too, both of those substances lower your immune system. IF pot is used to treat pain and increase appetite for an AIDS patient, it should be in a edible form, not the smokeable form.

Booze can't be used as a food, or fiber products, it could be used as fuel though.

Tobacco can only be used as what it is, statistically the most addictive substance known to man, that causes the most deaths of any drug known to man, has absolutely no medical benefit, and costs more money in medical expenses than any other single product.. yet it is legal.

Prohibition on pot did not lower its use. Actually use has steadily increased despite an increase on spending in the war on drugs, the longest, most expensive, least effective war in American history.

Alcohol, tobacco, and paper companies are the ones who pushed for pot prohibition. Surprise?

Yet if pot sale was taxed, we might actually be able to afford keeping non-violent drug offenders locked up for years(sarcasm) just for something they DID TO THEMSELVES! If someone tries to kill themselves do you jail them? They would receive mental treatment as the worst possible "punishment"/deterrent. With the money saved from taxing pot instead of fighting it and jailing non-violent people, we could probably pay for free health care, for life, for every American.. cover all of those supposed social costs 10x over, and probably cover the ones from alcohol and tobacco, which are conveniently ignored by their producers and those they lobby.

dhavid 9 years 12 weeks ago
#2

Candy, and fast foods, cause obesity, which has been shown to lead to many, many health problems. A terrible toll on society. The extra medical costs to the country must be staggering. Watching violence on tv, and using violent video games, are linked to acting out with violence. Perhaps the government should take care of these things as well?

makuck's picture
makuck 9 years 12 weeks ago
#3

If they wanted to be consistent.

makuck's picture
makuck 9 years 12 weeks ago
#4

Or they could just legalize stuff that hurts only the user in cases where it doesn't hurt anyone else.

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Natural Lefty 9 years 12 weeks ago
#5

Paul, I agree on all of your assessments regarding the dangers of marijuana use, and have been telling this to the students in my psychology classes for years. Personally, I avoid all alcohol, tobacco products and any of the illegal drugs such as marijuana. They are definitely bad news.

However, the jails of the U.S. are overcrowded with users and sellers of illegal drugs due to their prohibition. Our nation has more people in jail, and I believe a greater percentage of its population in jail, than any other in the world due to its drug prohibition. Add to that, the so-called "drug wars" which are occuring in Mexico, with devastating consequences, as well as "gang wars" here in the United States which are fueled by the drug trade.

I used to be against legalizing marijuana or any of the other illegal drugs. In fact, I would have just as soon outlawed alcohol and tobacco use, too, but I have finally decided that prohibition is the wrong approach. I think a better approach is to make drugs, to paraphrase President Clinton's statement about abortion "safe, rare, and legal," plus I would add heavily regulated, discouraged and made boring, as some EU nations have been doing. If this were done, I think we would see a true drop in marijuana use and in crime, and better health as a nation. I also think accidents on our highways among private vehicles as well as with public transportation would actually be reduced, assuming marijuana was treated the way that alcohol is, as an intoxicant which drivers (or doctors) could not be under the influence of.

leighmf's picture
leighmf 9 years 12 weeks ago
#6

Provide numbers in tables which include variables for all subjects such as

1. General health status of the intoxicated person; temperature, weight and BP; complete medical history including surgeries, illnesses, accidents, prescription drugs taken

2. Were they sleep deprived or suffering from a sleep disorder

3. Males vs females and age group

4. Psychological status, family status, educational status, intelligence quotient

5. Visual or hearing impairment

6. Over the counter medications; coffee and pepsi use; amount of mercury contaminated tuna consumed

to list but a few variables which would have to be included in any complete scientific collection of data to make any sort of scientific conclusion.

makuck's picture
makuck 9 years 11 weeks ago
#7

Yes, you have to really analyze how data was obtained. Too often results are skewed. Poles are a good example of that. For example, a demographic from Fox news viewers is going to lean right on who they vote for. But Fox could release a blurb saying "nation leans right according to new poll." Even data obtained using the scientific method can have bias, and other scientists using the scientific method in a different way could have completely different results. Too many people take things at face value.

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bevjan 7 years 9 weeks ago
#8

I know a lot of people don't agree with me about marijuana, either. I've been a substance abuse counselor for 35 years. I now find pot to be the second "scariest" drug - because the effects are so subtle and so long term that people have no idea they're being affected by it. I don't think people should be put in jail for possession, but I definitely don't think it should be legal. I remember one client years ago (and this was from the pot that was around in the 70's) who had decided on his own to go thirty days with no pot or alcohol. At the end of the 30 days he told me that he couldn't believe how much more clearly he could think. I asked some of my other clients to go without pot for 30 days and got the same results. I remember another client I had put into a 30-day inpatient treatment program to help him get off pot (this was obviously before managed care). I visited him in the hospital and he told me, with tears in his eyes, "This is the first time I've seen my children through clear eyes." The half-life of THC is so long, that if someone is only smoking pot once a week, the level of THC is continually building up - in the fatty cells and fatty tissues of the body. I've read a study with monkeys who had to breathe in marijuana smoke and five years later certain brain waves that were being assessed were still being affected by the marijuana. Don't criminalize it - get people help. My belief is that all addictive-compulsive behaviors are ways to not feel our pain (I'm talking about emotional pain). Besides, I've read studies (I don't know how true they are) that said that smoking marijuana is the least effective way to deal with (physical) pain. Studies also said that there are other ways to prepare it that work better with the pain and do not cause the same potential problems as smoking it. If that's true, it should be investigated further before legalization is done.

Quote Paul W. L.:

Dear Thom Hartmann: I agree with you on nearly every issue. Here is an exception. PWL

How would marijuana legalization affect our health and safety?

By Paul W. Lovinger

Before deciding to put neatly-packaged marijuana cigarettes on store shelves or counters, consider these questions:

1. Are you willing to ride in a bus, plane, or train operated by a stoned driver, pilot, or engineer?

2. Would you entrust your life to someone, like a surgeon, who’s under the influence of an intoxicant?

3. Despite the critical health care situation, are you ready to throw another hazardous drug onto the market?

If you answered yes to all three, feel free to add marijuana to the list of drugs that are dangerous to health or safety but sold legally. Once it goes on sale in stores, expect to introduce a myriad of newcomers to the pot habit.

It is 25 years since the publication of The Marijuana Question: and Science’s Search for an Answer, which I wrote with the late Helen C. Jones, Surgeon General C. Everett Koop writing the foreword. Nearly 10,000 studies of the drug had been made, most showing some detriment to body, mind, or society. We described some 300 of them and interviewed many users, ex-users, and researchers.

Since then, the main developments have not been scientific but political: the advance of the so-called medical marijuana movement and a state-by-state drive for legalization. The old claim of harmlessness is not heard so much in the light of the many news stories and studies to the contrary. But the belief persists that marijuana, or cannabis, is less harmful than alcohol or tobacco and never caused a death. We learned otherwise long ago.

PLANE, TRAIN, AND MOTOR VEHICLE CRASHES

We detailed two fatal plane crashes in Hawaii and fatal train wrecks in Royersford, PA, and Chicago, all officially tied to marijuana intoxication. Federal records during four years turned up 29 aviation fatalities involving marijuana. Simulated flying showed marijuana impairing memory, sense of time, and concentration, causing major errors. Pilots described their panic when they suffered marijuana flashbacks in flight.

Unlike alcohol, which soon washes from the body, marijuana’s fat-soluble THC can linger for months, accumulating throughout the body, causing symptoms long after smoking. A regular smoker may never be free of it.

We also reported six surveys linking recent marijuana use to 22 percent of drivers in 1,816 fatal motor vehicle accidents. Some had used only marijuana; others added alcohol. The combination diminishes driving ability more than either substance alone.

In experiments in both simulated and real driving, marijuana diminished judgment, care, perception, concentration, and the ability to estimate time and distance. And we found that in 1976 when California decriminalized marijuana possession from a felony to a misdemeanor handled by a citation, the number of arrests for driving under the influence of drugs jumped by one-half, remaining high for years.

The drug has brought more transportation tragedies: Two Central Airlines pilots who had been smoking marijuana were killed when their plane crashed in a landing attempt at Newark’s airport in 1983. A train collision killed 16 when a Conrail operator smoked marijuana in Maryland in 1987. Five people, including a girl of 9 and workers were killed by a milk tanker driven by a marijuana smoker on a highway at San Leandro, California, in 1994. Last August, a tour bus whose driver had been smoking marijuana for days left a highway in Utah and overturned, killing three passengers and injuring 11.

Those are tips of icebergs. It is often difficult identifying marijuana smokers, and roadside tests are lacking.

STATE SAYS MARIJUANA CAUSES CANCER

The California Environmental Protection Agency’s Office of Environmental Health Hazard Assessment has added marijuana smoke to the State’s list of cancer-causing substances. In June, the Carcinogen Identification Committee of the Office’s Science Advisory Board found that “marijuana smoke was clearly shown, through scientifically valid testing according to generally accepted principles, to cause cancer.”

It agrees with our findings: Chemical analysis at different laboratories turned up considerably more of the known carcinogens in marijuana smoke than in tobacco smoke. At UCLA, sampling of airway tissues of heavy pot smokers revealed cell changes associated with the development of cancer, emphysema, and chronic bronchitis. Rodents developed cancers, including lung cancer, when injected with marijuana extracts or ingredients in laboratories in Florida and Pennsylvania. Malignant cells developed in hamster lung samples exposed to marijuana smoke in Switzerland.

Medical research had established that habitual marijuana smoking endangered the lungs. Those also smoking tobacco appeared more at risk. Heavy, prolonged use produced respiratory distress, signs of possible deficiencies in the lung’s defenses, and those ominous cell changes.

More pot deaths: We learned of several homicides by soldiers undergoing psychotic episodes upon smoking marijuana or hashish (cannabis resin). It could be worse: Among many servicemen caught with marijuana were those in the nuclear weapons program.

Fire officers said the combination of burning and intoxication represented by marijuana smoking posed a serious fire hazard. In 1981 a busboy’s joint set fire to the Las Vegas Hilton, causing eight deaths.

We showed that nonsmokers could become intoxicated by breathing smoke of nearby marijuana smokers. And nursing women transferred the drug to offspring through the milk.

SEX, BABIES, HEARTS, AND MINDS

Marijuana or THC, its chief mind-affecting compound, killed fetuses and caused other reproductive troubles when given to female animals from mice to monkeys in hundreds of experiments. Several U.S. and Canadian studies of newborn human babies and their mothers associated marijuana smoking during pregnancy with birth difficulties, limited weight, fetal alcohol syndrome, and possible nervous system abnormalities.

Marijuana or THC inhibited the male sex gland, the testis, in numerous animal studies. An aphrodisiac in men at first, the drug can have a reverse effect after heavy and prolonged smoking: causing potency problems and a reduction in male sex hormone and the quantity and possibly quality of sperm.

Marijuana smoking, like tobacco smoking, hastened angina pectoris attacks in cardiac patients. Marijuana sped the pulse far more and for a much longer time than tobacco. Some scientists found marijuana damaging chromosomes and the immune system. Subsequent research has found that HIV-positive marijuana smokers progress to full AIDS much faster than nonusers and are more likely to contract bacterial pneumonia.

The immediate mental effects of marijuana, or cannabis, have been chronicled for ages: impairment of short-term memory, perception, sense of time and distance, logical reasoning, coordination, emotions, and judgment. Even in small amounts, marijuana can trigger mental illness in susceptible individuals. That its early use heightens the risk of psychosis in adulthood was reported by Australian and UK medical journals from 2006 to 2010. Possible harm to children’s developing nervous system and mind has worried even some marijuana partisans.

ANY SMOKE IS BAD MEDICINE

Experiments, interviews, and statistical research attest that as addicts experience less satisfying “highs,” they often increase doses and try other drugs. Marijuana use usually precedes use of heroin and cocaine. The longer the marijuana use, the more likely one turns to them. Yet marijuana itself is now a “hard drug,” dozens of times stronger than it was in the 1960s, when the national drug craze began.

Isn’t marijuana “medicine?” The medical profession finds no use for marijuana, the dried plant material. No legitimate physician tells a patient to start smoking. Inhalation of any smoke harms the lungs. Synthetic THC, in capsule form, is available for the few patients needing antiemetics who don’t respond to standard remedies.

“Medical marijuana” is not scientific reality but a political achievement by pro-pot activists. In 1979, R. Keith Stroup, the head of the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws, told the newspaper of Emory University in Atlanta that “we are trying to get marijuana reclassified medically…. We’ll be using the issue as a red herring to give marijuana a good name.”

Some say marijuana should be legal because tobacco and alcohol are, which is like saying three wrongs make a right. It’s just as logical to reduce booze and butts to the status of pot. That is politically unlikely despite the tragedies all three substances cause. But we can prevent a new blow to the people’s health and safety.

Paul W. Lovinger is a San Francisco writer and journalist. He was a reporter and columnist for newspapers for over 20 years. With Helen C. Jones, widow of a Berkeley medical professor, he made a three-year study of the drug and wrote The Marijuana Question (1985).

leighmf's picture
leighmf 7 years 9 weeks ago
#9

"1. Are you willing to ride in a bus, plane, or train operated by a stoned driver, pilot, or engineer?"

It has been demonstrated over and over that such persons work drunk and when they are over fatigued. I have still yet to hear of a car accident directly linked to stonedness. Now, if you are silly enough to try smoking while driving, or texting while driving, an accident could happen, especially if a burning coal drops between your thighs and gets caught in a crack of the upholstery.

"2. Would you entrust your life to someone, like a surgeon, who’s under the influence of an intoxicant?"

No- but if it is an emergency surgeon and I have two hours to live with peritonitis and the surgeon comes in with bloodshot eyes what choice is there? Happens all the time.

"3. Despite the critical health care situation, are you ready to throw another hazardous drug onto the market?"

Here's a critical healthcare fact. I was in a trauma unit with a sixty-two year old man who had seven broken ribs from a car accident. He does not drink or smoke cigarettes, but has been seriously toking non-stop since the 1960's.

The scans came onto the unit computer and suddenly there was an amazing commotion amongst the doctors. I thought, "Oh, no!" when they excitedly waved for me to come look at the scans.

First we are looking very casually, oh here's one, two, three, we think seven or eight broken ribs, but that wasn't the thing.

This man at 62 had no trace of plaque in his aorta and arteries seen on the scan. The doctors were floored- they said, optimally at age 62 at least some plaque is visible, just from natural aging. They couldn't find a speck, and they looked as if they were witnessing a miracle.

So, clearly there is no way to say NO SMOKE is good. It is a staple of the man's diet.

I hope some doctors will see this and do some experiments with marijuana smoke and arterial plaque formation. Of course, they cannot use a subject who is obese, drinks, smokes cigarettes, and is not in good physical tone.

DdC's picture
DdC 7 years 9 weeks ago
#10

The vast majority of prohibitionists
profit on the drug war,..
... and that is their only motive.

Get real fear mongers... Your disgusting lies have never produced a victim. Only rehashed reefer madness, disproven time and time again only to be re released every so often. You're liars and murderers. That's it, no excuses, you deserve life in prison for what your lies have done. Drugwar Lies Linked to Schizophrenia

Professor Lester Grinspoon, Harvard Medical School, USA
"Marijuana is one of the least toxic substances in the whole pharmacopoeia"

All your gossip about the dangers of cannabis has done is prevent research. Shame on you for your naive stance based on corporate profits and gossip. Pitifools! Enough, jail the liars!

Shame on the Drug Worrier Profiteers
☛MARIJUANA RESEARCH STIFLED BY DRUG POLICIES
☛The Effect of Controlled Substances Scheduling on Research
☛FDA-Approved Medical Marijuana Research Blocked
☛GOP Mogul Behind Drug Rehab 'Torture' Centers
☛Calvina Fay Prohibition Inc.
☛Scientists Re-Re-Re-Discover

Ending D.E.A.th & Pillage Incrementally
Tell Congress: We Need Jobs, Not Cuts
professional sports hypocrisy

Cannabis Helps Keep Fans Calm
Police also claimed that the availability of cannabis in the Netherlands probably helped to defuse any violence. Scores of ticketless England fans gathered in coffee shops in Eindhoven, where cannabis is sold and smoked, to watch the game, greeting the defeat with mild disappointment and unusually, gentle applause. "It (cannabis) may have helped relax them," Mr Beelan added. "Even the hooligans enjoyed the party - and they told our officers. There were lots of things for fans to do and everybody had a good time."

"...the primary reason to outlaw marijuana
is its effect on the degenerate races."bevjan I've been a substance abuse counselor for 35 years.

So Paul W. L. is it as dangerous as preventing cancer treatment? Show one bit of scientific evidence cannabis is dangerous at all lefty... and rehab profiteer your argument is void as your agenda. Ya got Nothing. So stop the BS and hobgoblins and get out of the way or get run over...

Cannabis Stops Metastasis In Aggressive Cancers!
"What we found was that his Cannabidiol could essentially 'turn off' the ID-1," Desprez told HuffPost. The cells stopped spreading and returned to normal.

1. Are you willing to ride in a bus, plane, or train operated by a stoed driver, pilot, or engineer?

Cannabis Users Are Safer Drivers Than Non-Users, New Study Shows

Why the Federal Government Will Not Reschedule Marijuana
Trillion spent is a Trillion earned.
Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs
Cover-Ups, Prevarications, Subversions & Sabotage

2. Would you entrust your life to someone, like a surgeon, who’s under the influence of an intoxicant?

Alcohol-Marijuana Equalization Initiative
WHEREAS, according to the National Institutes of Health, an average of 317 Americans die annually as the result of alcohol overdoses; and
WHEREAS, there has never been even a single fatal marijuana overdose recorded in the medical literature, as noted by the British Medical Journal in September 2003; and
WHEREAS, according to U.S. Department of Justice, About 3 million crimes occur each year in which victims perceive the offender to have been drinking at the time of the offense. Among those victims who provided information about the offenders use of alcohol, about 35% of the victimizations involved an offender who had been drinking; and
WHEREAS, extensive research, documented in official reports by the British government's Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs and the Canadian Senate Special Committee on Illegal Drugs, among others, shows that -- unlike alcohol -- marijuana use is not generally a cause of violence or aggressive behavior and in fact tends to reduce violence and aggression;
WHEREAS, it is the intent of this ordinance to have the private adult use and possession of marijuana treated in the same manner as the private adult use and possession of alcohol;

3. Despite the critical health care situation, are you ready to throw another hazardous drug onto the market?

Stop lying, you cause Americans suffering for money, end of story.

Indian Hemp Drugs Commission, 1894
"The commission has come to the conclusion that the moderate use of hemp drugs is practically attended by no evil results at all. ... ...moderate use of hemp... appears to cause no appreciable physical injury of any kind,... no injurious effects on the mind... [and] no moral injury whatever."

Albert Eistein: My First Impression of the U.S.A., 1921
"The prestige of government has undoubtedly been lowered considerably by the prohibition law. For nothing is more destructive of respect for the government and the law of the land than passing laws which cannot be enforced. It is an open secret that the dangerous increase of crime in this country is closely connected with this."

Panama Canal Zone Report, 1925
"There is no evidence... that any deleterious influence on the individual using [cannabis]"

LaGuardia Commission Report, 1944
"Cannabis smoking] does not lead directly to mental or physical deterioration... Those who have consumed marijuana for a period of years showed no mental or physical deterioration which may be attributed to the drug."

The LaGardia sub-committee of New York 1944
"The use of marijuana does not lead to morphine or heroin or cocaine addiction and no effort is made to create a market for these narcotics by stimulating the practice of marijuana smoking"

"Marijuana is not the determining factor in the commission of major crime....The publicity concerning the catastrophic effect of marijuana smoking in New York City, is unfounded"

Dr J. H. Jaffe,
The Pharmacological Basis of Therapeutics.
L.Goodman and A Gillman, 3rd edn. 1965
"There are no long lasting ill-effects from the acute use of marijuana and no fatalities have ever been recorded ... there seems to be growing agreement within the medical community, at least, that marijuana does not directly cause criminal behaviour, juvenile delinquency, sexual excitement, or addiction."

1968 UK ROYAL COMMISSION, THE WOOTTON REPORT
"Having reviewed all the material available to us we find ourselves in agreement with the conclusion reached by the Indian Hemp Drugs Commission appointed by the Government of India (1893-94) and the New York Mayor's Committee (1944 - LaGuardia) that the long-term consumption of cannabis in moderate doses has no harmful effects" "the long-asserted dangers of cannabis are exaggerated and that the related law is socially damaging, if not unworkable"

Jamaican Study 1970
"This study indicates that there is little correlation between the use of ganga and crime, except insofar as the possession and cultivation of ganga are technically crimes"

The Shafer Commission of 1970
Marijuana does not lead to physical dependency, although some evidence indicates that the heavy, long-term users may develop a psychological dependence on the drug"

30 Years After Nixon's Marijuana Commission Advocated Decriminalization
Report Findings Are Still Valid
Nixon Never Read His Own Report

US Jamaican Study 1974
"... as a multipurpose plant, ganga is used medicinally, even by non-smokers. ....

There were no indications of organic brain damage or chromosome damage among smokers and no significant clinical psychiatric, psychological or medical) differences between smokers and controls."

"No impairment of physiological, sensory and perceptual performance, tests of concept formation, abstracting ability, and cognitive style, and tests of memory"

"[Cannabis smoking] does not lead directly to mental or physical deterioration...

Those who have consumed marijuana for a period of years showed no mental or physical deterioration which may be attributed to the drug."

Cannabis Shrinks Tumors: Government Knew in 74
The DEA quickly shut down the Virginia study and all further cannabis/tumor research, according to Jack Herer, who reports on the events in his book, The Emperor Wears No Clothes. In 1976, President Gerald Ford put an end to all public cannabis research and granted exclusive research rights to major pharmaceutical companies, who set out -- unsuccessfully -- to develop synthetic forms of THC that would deliver all the medical benefits without the "high."

Jamaican Studies (1968-74, 1975)
"Definite Benefits For Marijuana Smokers"

President Jimmy Carter 1976
"Penalties against possession of a drug should not be more damaging to an individual than the use of the drug itself"

U.S. GOVT. COVERS UP MARIJUANA CANCER CURE!

U.S. Representative Dan Quayle, March 1977
"Congress should definitely consider decriminalizing possession of marijuana... We should concentrate on prosecuting the rapists and burglars who are a menace to society."

The Coptic Study (1981)
"No Harm to Human Brain or Intelligence"

The USA Merck Manual of Diagnosis and Therapy 1987
"Cannabis can be used on an episodic but continual basis without evidence of social or psychic dysfunction. In many users the term dependence with its obvious connotations, probably is mis-applied... The chief opposition to the drug rests on a moral and political, and not toxicologic, foundation".

The Economist March 28th 1992
"Medicines often produce side effects. Sometimes they are physically unpleasant. Cannabis too has discomforting side effects, but these are not physical they are political"

U.S. Department of Transportation, National Highway Traffic Safety Administration
(DOT HS 808 078), Final Report, November 1993
"THC's adverse effects on driving performance appear relatively small"

"Marijuana: Facts for Teens." U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.
Washington, D.C. 1995, p.10.
"Most marijuana users do not go on to use other drugs."

Professor Olaf Drummer, a forensic scientist the Royal College of Surgeons in Melbourne in 1996
":Compared to alcohol, which makers people take more risks on the road, marijuana made drivers slow down and drive more carefully.... Cannabis is good for driving skills, as people tend to overcompensate for a perceived impairment."

Proven : Cannabis is a safe medicine by Ian Williams Goddard
BOSTON, Jan. 30, 1997 (UPI) -
CANNABIS DOES NOT CAUSE CANCER
The U.S. federal government has failed to make public its own 1994 study that undercuts its position that marijuana is carcinogenic - a $2 million study by the National Toxicology Program. The program's deputy director, John Bucher, says the study "found absolutely no evidence of cancer." In fact, animals that received THC had fewer cancers. Bucher denies his agency had been pressured to shelve the report, saying the delay in making it public was due to a personnel shortage.

The Boston Globe reported Thursday (1-30-97) that the study indicates not only that the main ingredient in marijuana, THC, does not cause cancer, but also that it may even protect against malignancies, laboratory tests on animals show. The report comes on the heels of an editorial in the prestigious New England Journal of Medicine that favors the controlled medical use of marijuana, and calls current federal policy "misguided, heavy-handed and inhumane."

The Clinton administration has said that doctors prescribing marijuana could be prosecuted for a federal crime. Marijuana has been reported to ease the pain, nausea and vomiting in advanced stages of cancer, AIDS and other serious illnesses, but the federal government claims other treatments have been deemed safer than what it calls "a psychoactive, burning carcinogen." However, The Boston Globe says the government's claim appears to be undercut by its own $2 million study.

The Kaiser Permanente study
"Marijuana Use and Mortality" April 1997 American Journal of Public Health".
"Relatively few adverse clinical effects from the chronic use of marijuana have been documented in humans. However, the criminalization of marijuana use may itself be a health hazard, since it may expose the users to violence and criminal activity."

Testimony of Professor Lester Grinspoon, M.D.
Associate Professor of Psychiatry, Harvard Medical School, before the Crime Subcommittee of the Judiciary Committee, U.S. House of Representatives, Washington, D.C., October 1, 1997:
"Cannabis is remarkably safe. Although not harmless, it is surely less toxic than most of the conventional medicines it could replace if it were legally available. Despite its use by millions of people over thousands of years, cannabis has never caused an overdose death."

What the WHO doesn't want you to know about cannabis

Marijuana Special Report (New Scientist, 21. Februar 1998)
Health officials in Geneva have suppressed the publication of a politically sensitive analysis that confirms what ageing hippies have known for decades: cannabis is safer than alcohol or tobacco.

The Lancet, vol 352, number 9140, November 14 1998
"We.. say that on the medical evidence available, moderate indulgence in cannabis has little ill-effect on health, and that decisions to ban or legalise cannabis should be based on other considerations."

It seems logical that inhaling enough smoke will give you lung cancer. But a new study of Los Angeles residents suggests that smoking marijuana--even more than 22,000 joints in a lifetime--doesn't increase cancer risk. The results surprise many researchers, who point out marijuana has other ill health effects. Decades of research have shown that cigarette smoking dramatically increases the risk of certain cancers. But controversy surrounds the risk of smoking weed. A 1999 study of blood donors suggested a link between marijuana and head and neck cancer, but a larger study in 2004 found no such connection. Cont: cannabisnews/2/1868

Loads more, just say when spooks!

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leighmf 7 years 9 weeks ago
#11

You kill me.

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DdC 7 years 9 weeks ago
#12
Quote Natural Lefty:Paul, I agree on all of your assessments regarding the dangers of marijuana use, and have been telling this to the students in my psychology classes for years. Personally, I avoid all alcohol, tobacco products and any of the illegal drugs such as marijuana. They are definitely bad news.

“I know that most men, including those at ease with problems of the greatest complexity, can seldom accept even the simplest and most obvious truth if it be such as would oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions which they have delighted in explaining to colleagues, which they have proudly taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by thread, into the fabric of their lives.”
~ Tolstoy

APA Awards Unanimous Support for Medical Marijuana In an attempt to push forward the acceptance of the effectiveness of medical marijuana, the American Psychiatric Association has declared their unanimous vote in support of the legal protection of patients with doctors' recommendations to use the herb for medical reasons.



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Quote Natural Lefty:However, the jails of the U.S. are overcrowded with users and sellers of illegal drugs due to their prohibition. Our nation has more people in jail, and I believe a greater percentage of its population in jail, than any other in the world due to its drug prohibition.

While this is true, your reasoning seems skewed. Monsanto aborts pregnancies and kills kids with their chemical poisons sprayed on the bible belt cotton crops. When hemp is stronger, softer and organic. It is also lumped into the Ganjawar by the same corporate interests pushing private prisons and schools. These killers belong in jail. The amount of prisoners is ghastly because they are innocent of producing victims therefore making it criminal. Not the numbers if it is legit crime as in lies for profit denigrating competition, Ganja, RxGanja or Hemp. The agenda is what most are missing, its the money in perpetuating the war, not winning or losing it. The ingredients for this recipe of fascism are hobgoblins and lies and intimidation , sabotage, diversions and investors such as rehabilitation clinics profits on plea bargains. For $4500/mo they'll cure you of the sin of pot addiction. Even if its not addictive. An extra grand they'll cure you of gay too. Repeating reefer madness to appease gossipers and profiteers is wrong imho. Same with Boosh Cheney lies to go to war and the media shunning any journalism in opposition. These poisoners and killers deserve cages. Their traitorous acts taught in every grade school so we don't dismiss it as we have since Nixon. 2.3 million people in jail with over half non violent drug offenders is nothing short of embarrassing.

Pitiful how gullible the sheep are and how they assume their rightful position in line passing the gossip to the next generation. That is how racism works and since we aren't born with genetic defects causing racism, I have to assume it is taught. Ignorant people teach it to their ignorant kids but it is perpetuated by the same corporate interests as those who divide the reds and blues. Cheap labor reduces overhead which is the enemy of profit. Cheap labor from prison, outsourcing or slavery doesn't matter to the bottom line. Its not complicated, just arrogant beyond most' comprehension due to a dysfunctional media. A group of people lying about weapons of mass destruction just to profit on almost a trillion dollars spent, Billions in cash stacked on pallets, lost. How much has the 2 trillion Wall St bailout been paid back? Banksters were bailed out by Mexican Drug Cartels. So many lies and liars demonizing Ganja over the decades I find it hard to believe anyone in the 21st century still goes along with it. But then you hear about banning women's choice and gutting unions and safety nets and the "theory" of evolution is spouted by the same dung worriers as the "myth" of global warming. That is bankrolled by the Fossil fools industry. Yet Ganja and Hemp are still illegal to grow in commercial amounts.
Medicinal cannabis is sold by Pharmaceuticals in a bogus artificial form merdinol and now by the x deputy drug czar Barthwell who heads up Sativex' sublingual spray form of raw cannabis. Distributed by Bayer. The DEA has many patents on individual cannabinoids, since the 40's. They still grow it for drug war research and to supply the 4 remaining IND patents , 12 joints a day. Grown, ground up, rolled, canistered and shipped on your tax dollar. Establishing a "reasonable" amount for states to base individual use as we do legally, recreationally in CA since 1996, and in SCruz since 1993. The Feds only have jurisdiction over selling it or giving it away. In quantities deemed more than a "reasonable" amount an individual protected under the 10th amendment, as personal, non commercial use. It's states mostly caging people if they have no protection on the books. Those following politicians "medicinal laws" are protected under the guidelines of the state law which is usually still with some degree of prohibition hurdles. Alaska has protection for small amounts and now Colorado and Washington the same. imo shortcutting themselves with quantities, when the roots of prohibition are poison since Nixon fabricated the prohibition for reasons having nothing to do with smoking pot. So to keep this nonsense behind the justifications for these doomsday whacko's to post and legislate is slightly insane. Not only by doing the same old thing the same old way over and over expecting a different result. The roots of this entire drug war are based on lies. No amount of fertilizer or water will make the fruit less poison. Stop feeding the beast.

Quote Natural Lefty:Add to that, the so-called "drug wars" which are occuring in Mexico, with devastating consequences, as well as "gang wars" here in the United States which are fueled by the drug trade.

No, they are entirely 100% fueled by the United States ONDCP war on some plants and users. There is not a drug in the Pharmacopeia or plant world that is used safely by following procedures, dosages and titration's that can't be used safely by junkies and stoners. Prohibitionists like the propagandists they buy, caused AIDs and HepC increases promoting their for profit drug war. Banning clean needles or adulterated street dope is what causes overdoses and spreading diseases. Religious fear mongering by those who judge what is proper, only ends up banning heroin that reaches pain 80 times faster than morphine. 2000 years ago the Catholics banned Ganja when the novices and early nuns, were finding Jesus without the Priests after inhaling the incensors billowing clouds of hashish smoke. Did Jesus Inhale?

Prohibition is a disease perpetuated by a minority of influential, usually men. Bait and switch, divide and conquer and demonizing are tools of their fascism. As much as we like to think of ourselves as good and compassionate people I have found we are no different than the rest of the world, only more privileged than most. Slavery ended because of the Industrial revolution making labor cheaper with tractors than housing and feeding a dozen slaves. While we still played the game and killed 50,000 Americans in a Civil War against the same teabags clinging onto their pitiful past, fighting to the death to keep enslaving humans. Or jail stoners or mostly Hispanic and Blacks. Gays women or hippies are demonized to protect status quo interests, what is not good for the entire population. Money is what they fight for. Over lives, and spreading their hogwash based on assumptions and thin air only assist them. A type of self destruction.

Quote Natural Lefty:I used to be against legalizing marijuana or any of the other illegal drugs. In fact, I would have just as soon outlawed alcohol and tobacco use, too, but I have finally decided that prohibition is the wrong approach. I think a better approach is to make drugs, to paraphrase President Clinton's statement about abortion "safe, rare, and legal," plus I would add heavily regulated, discouraged and made boring, as some EU nations have been doing.

OK sorta, in a PC gobble-de-goop of still apologizing for the wrong things. Like blacks apologizing for riots after police beatings and not the police for the beatings. Ganja is a safe natural stress reliever used for thousands of years. It also has hundreds of uses as a remedy for side effects of diseases and disease treatments. A natural remedy, not a Pharmaceutical chemical adulterant. Tobacco is the liberals version of reefer madness and just as deadly and destructive. They scapegoat tobacco and leave the chemicals added to cigarettes free of charges. Tobacco has been smoked, as well as the population living in caves with camp fires or buildings heated by fire places. No problems until corporations started selling cigarettes for your pleasure, as Rayguns sold on TV and billboards. Flame retardants and burn enhancers and chemicals to make the smoke white and preservatives and hundreds of poisons added and lit on fire and inhaled and no one thinks this is maybe something to mention? Indians, Sir Walter Raleigh or the Turkish, Egyptians and Thomas Jefferson all grew organic tobacco without the cancers and lung diseases since the 30's inculcation. This being the case means raising prices under prohibition leads the poor to less expensive generic brands with even more chemicals. Then down the road even more lower incomes to treat in most likely ER's. More house fires hiding from landlords. While the farmers get blamed the Monsanto's and DowCorning and RJReynolds escape justice once again as they do with their pollutants. Prohibition doesn't work, it makes money trying to enforce the unenforceable but doesn't do a damn thing to protect us from hobgoblins. Nothing can because they don't exist. Stress is the underlying cause of diseases and wars. Cannabis relieves stress. I rest my case...

Quote Natural Lefty:If this were done, I think we would see a true drop in marijuana use and in crime, and better health as a nation.

Crime is related to prohibition, not using Ganja. Health is improved by using Ganja. The nations sick from prohibition, lies and cheats, not Ganja. Hemp would remove the need for OPEC or half of our usage. Plus the side effects of leaking tankers, spilled rigs and wars protecting them.

Quote Natural Lefty:I also think accidents on our highways among private vehicles as well as with public transportation would actually be reduced, assuming marijuana was treated the way that alcohol is, as an intoxicant which drivers (or doctors) could not be under the influence of.

As shown cannabis use makes one a safer driver than sobriety in stressful situations by novice drivers. Personally the truth is as it stands using Ganja while driving is a waste of money. Expensive pot should not be wasted relieving stress in traffic unless one is chronically prone to road rage. Otherwise wait until you get where you are going and utilize it for enjoyment. Those sick enough to suggest piss tasting are purely evil profiteers with no regard for America, period. Such a disgusting terrorist act. Akin to the Daryl Gates DARE brainwashing and Daryl Gates SWAT gestapo's.

Ganja safer than not toking.
A Drug Warmongers Toll on Americans
Pot Potency? Drug Czar blissfully unfazed by facts.

j.jonik 5 years 51 weeks ago
#13

RE-legalize:

>>>>>>> It would be a good idea to abandon the word “legalization” in favor of “RE-legalization. After all, cannabis (pot and hemp) was as legal as apples since the dawn of humanity…up until, in the 1930s and 40s, certain toxic, resource-depleting and environmentally-damaging industries saw cannabis as a threat to their business. They got complicit government officials to prohibit it. Reefer Madness was/is more mad (insane) than many notice.

At that time, technology had just come up with ways to make cannabis a viable crop for a host of uses such as paper, building materials, oils, feed and food, plastics, soaps, fabrics, etc. That’s not to mention that, unlike pesticide-intensive cotton (in the fabrics department), hemp needed no pesticides…which displeased the pesticides, chlorine and petrochemical industries…not to mention pharmaceuticals that, without fanfare, make a lot of pesticides…even tobacco pesticides.

To use “RE-legalization” opens the door to looking at that history. And, this would prompt activists and attorneys to make damn sure that judges or juries (and legislators) involved in pot-hemp-cannabis issues are free of economic links to the interests that benefit by prohibition.

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