This catch phrase is being used all over the place by Neocons to criticize Pres. Obama for opposing the Keystone Xtra Lethal Pipeline. The media is not challenging them on this statement but let them finish their BS talking points. Matthews came close to saying it the other day but checked himself and didn't finish that thought. What he started to say but dropped the thought cold was that an even higher percentage of the American people support stronger background checks for guns. There are more examples of this hypocrisy such as the immigration impasse. Why is everyone is giving these folks a pass and letting them pretend to honor public opinion when their only interest in it is focused on how to manipulate it and suppress it? It's not a total mystery, since the media is owned by corporate America and reporters have to watch their toes. The pro-gun control people are not paying their bills, they are simply the consumers of the merchandise and and ideas of the money people.


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Dexterous 4 years 51 weeks ago

Where do you get the idea obama is against the XL pipeline?

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Aliceinwonderland 4 years 51 weeks ago

So what's in it for you, Dexie Boy?

Sounds typical for fascist media, pretending to be all about "public opinion".

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PhilfromOhio 4 years 51 weeks ago

Wait and see on the Keystone. I think he is taking off the gloves and plans an in your face approach to the corrosive Republican agenda. Even if both houses of Congress approve the pipeline, I would put money on the notion that he will use the pocket veto to kill it. The public opinion that shows Keystone winning is based on false information by the carbon industry, which fabricates the job gains, and poo poos the damage to the environment. The bogus claim that it will lower American gas prices is a total "trickle down" lie, since virtually all will be exported overseas, and principally to China. Keystone is not the main problem potentially contributing to climate change, but it is case study in how successful money and misinformation shape public policy. There is more at stake here than a pipeline.

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Scott D.F. Simpson 4 years 51 weeks ago

Speaking of Mis information, seems like most of your's is coming straight out of Obama's lying mounth. The canadian oil will be mixed with oil from North Dakota, 50/50 so the HEAVY canadian tar will flow. so evan if it goes overseas, More than half the profit will be made here in the U.S. Since it will be going to oil refineries in Texas. And the fact is the oil shale will go somewhere, whether we like it or not. And mostly likely be transported by Warren's buffets trains, the Burlington Northern. Also one of Obama's biggest contributors. How is transporting by rail any safer? More expensive and more dangerous, pipelines don't derail. trickle down lie? gas is all ready down 75 cents a gallon in my state. because saudi arabia is flooding the market, in responce to our increased production.So a lower global price means lower prices here in the U.S., ever heard of supply and demand? I don't deny global warming, but who has a solution that doesn't involve freezing or starving to death? But hey if your walking to work and heating your home with solar and wind then your not a hypocrit al least.

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Aliceinwonderland 4 years 51 weeks ago

Hypocrite?! We’ve been forced to use their shit, Scott. Transportation is a necessity of survival in today’s society. You literally cannot function without wheels. If there were viable alternatives and the infrastructure to support them, many of us would not be using fossil fuel. A major factor you conveniently ignore. - AIW

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Scott D.F. Simpson 4 years 51 weeks ago

O.K. I retract the hypocrit word since there is no place to hunt and gather anymore. But A major factor I conveniently ignore? well I ignore the tooth fairy as well, your statement starts with if there were a viable alternative and you don't list any. Then you talk about an infastructure to support this imanginary alternative. fusion is years away, hydrogen? well the government and big oil says it's dangerous. and look at the space shuttles, it is. Solar and wind are only fossil fuel extenders, NOT alternatives. So praytell what am I ignoring? Where is the Imaginary solution?

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Palindromedary 4 years 51 weeks ago

I saw a Nissan Leaf, while stuck in some of the worst traffic I'd even been in, while at a shopping center. It took about 30 minutes just to exit the shopping center...move 6 feet then wait a couple of minutes and repeat. So the Nissan Leaf said on the side..."zero emissions" and I thought...Oh, really? The car itself may not have been directly putting unbreathable crap in the air but it still was causing lots of emissions indirectly. They still have to be charged by electricity which comes from an electric plant that runs on oil. And, if it's not oil, its coal, or nuclear...or, if you are lucky, hydroelectricity.

And if there is one lesson I've learned today it's "never go shopping on a weekend, especially one that is close to a holiday." The second lesson is "don't be fooled that your all-electric vehicle isn't causing any emissions".

ChicagoMatt 4 years 51 weeks ago

Here's a sort of funny "I feel your pain" story for you Palin - One fringe benefit of having small children is they wake up way early AND they love riding in shopping carts. It's not uncommon for me and my kids to be waiting at the door when Target opens on Saturday. We practically have the whole store to myself. Done with my weekly shopping and home before most people are even awake. Even get my morning Starbucks while I'm there, thanks to the wise person who put the coffee shop right inside the Target.

Except today. I had some other things to do in the morning, so I had to do my shopping in the middle of the day. As I fought for a spot in the parking lot, and waded through the crowds in the store, and waited in line to turn over my cash, I felt my inner curmudgeon coming out. I was thinking aloud, "Where are all of these people from?!?! Why are they here?!?!" I was tempted to blame Obama for some reason. Then I remembered I lived in a city of 3 million people, and pondered my options for moving to the country.

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Palindromedary 4 years 51 weeks ago

ChicagoMatt: I know I've often thought of moving to the country, myself. Like someplace in Central America. But, I would probably be disappointed. I've been in a lot of different countries and they all had traffic problems much worse than most of us do here in the US. Anyway, now that my shopping is done, mostly anyway, I hope not to venture out against unless it is during the week days...and not at lunch hour or commute times.

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Palindromedary 4 years 51 weeks ago

Interesting, another double entry. It could be related to the fact that I went to another web site to check on something and then back to TH and noticed that I had not yet sent the message because it was still in the Comment box. So, I sent it...then noticed the double entry.

Good thing I wasn't ordering something from Amazon. I might have mistakenly ordered 2 when I only wanted 1. I seem to remember something about browsers submitting double and then they were supposed to have fixed that problem.

Quote 4guysfromrolla:When a user clicks a submit button in a form, their browser makes a request back to the web server for the specified URL. On the web server, the user's input is processed and some action is taken based on the input. A database record might be added, an email might be sent, and so on. One potential issue that can arise is if a user submits a form, but there is a delay in getting back a response from the server. A user may think that the button click didn't "take", so they click it again. This can lead to two form submissions, resulting in two database records being added, two emails being sent, or whatever.
(emphasis is mine)

Problem is that my double entry is 22 minute apart which doesn't suggest a switch bounce or something to do with javascript in my browser. Usually, when you click on the Save button the form is submitted and what is written disappears from the Comments box. But in my case, it might be that I had submitted it, and it didn't disappear as it should have, and when I came back 22 minute later and noticed the Comments was still in the box, I clicked on Save again and it was resubmitted causing a double entry.

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Palindromedary 4 years 51 weeks ago

double entry deleted...I have been having some delays in my it might be part of the problem....

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PhilfromOhio 4 years 51 weeks ago

Get off of my lawn............

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Mark J. Saulys 4 years 51 weeks ago

We have to discredit the mainstream media in the eyes of the public. People still think that if it's on TV, radio, in the paper it must be true.

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