Recently, I have been diagnosed with the terminal dis-ease of Drapetomania. I am also an SLE survivor, so I can be fairly certain that I shall perish from one… or the other; barring some unforeseen cosmic accident.

There is no cure for either malady.

Drapetomania was discovered and identified in 1851, by Dr. Samuel Adolphus Cartwright. Dr. Cartwright was a widely known, and respected, physician trained at the distinguished University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine. His papers and articles were widely re-printed on a regular basis. His medical opinions were of consequence in the field of medicine; however, none of them ever achieved the notoriety than did his discovery of Drapetomania.

Behold its clinical description…

In Diseases and Peculiarities of the Negro Race, Cartwright points out that the Bible calls for a slave to be submissive to his master, and by doing so, the slave will have no desire to run away.

If the white man attempts to oppose the Deity's will, by trying to make the negro anything else than "the submissive knee-bender" (which the Almighty declared he should be), by trying to raise him to a level with himself, or by putting himself on an equality with the negro; or if he abuses the power which God has given him over his fellow-man, by being cruel to him, or punishing him in anger, or by neglecting to protect him from the wanton abuses of his fellow-servants and all others, or by denying him the usual comforts and necessaries of life, the negro will run away; but if he keeps him in the position that we learn from the Scriptures he was intended to occupy, that is, the position of submission; and if his master or overseer be kind and gracious in his hearing towards him, without condescension, and at the same time ministers to his physical wants, and protects him from abuses, the negro is spell-bound, and cannot run away.

If treated kindly, well fed and clothed, with fuel enough to keep a small fire burning all night--separated into families, each family having its own house--not permitted to run about at night to visit their neighbors, to receive visits or use intoxicating liquors, and not overworked or exposed too much to the weather, they are very easily governed--more so than any other people in the world. If any one or more of them, at any time, are inclined to raise their heads to a level with their master or overseer, humanity and their own good requires that they should be punished until they fall into that submissive state which was intended for them to occupy. They have only to be kept in that state, and treated like children to prevent and cure them from running away.

This is deep.

Very deep.

Prevention and remedy

In addition to identifying drapetomania, Cartwright prescribed a remedy. His feeling was that with "proper medical advice, strictly followed, this troublesome practice that many Negroes have of running away can be almost entirely prevented."

In the case of slaves "sulky and dissatisfied without cause" – a warning sign of imminent flight – Cartwright prescribed "whipping the devil out of them" as a "preventative measure". As a remedy for this "disease," doctors also made running a physical impossibility by prescribing the removal of both big toes.

White Prototypes

In the many opinions that I have expressed, verbally, literally, and documented, relevant to issues peculiar to the Black diaspora in the United States and its resultant manifestations, I am often met with the recurrent responses proffered by many white Americans. The monikers, and names, of these individuals change, but the responses are quite consistent; here are a few examples:

“I know other Blacks who have done well, and they don’t go around complaining” Translation: you should be like the other good Niggers; they are happy, singing Negroid spirituals…why aren’t you? There must be something wrong with you.

Drapetomania.

We’ve come a long way in “race relations”, look at the fact that there is an “African-American” President! Translation: You ungrateful black bastard, look at how “color-blind” we are. Why, we have a nigger in the “White House” which proves we have “gotten beyond race”. What is your problem?

Drapetomania.

What is it you want, Kenyatta? Why don’t you try to bring us together? How does all of your rhetoric help? Translation: Forget the fact that we have abused your people and caricaturized them for 400 years. When we kick you in your ass, as a group, it is your responsibility to accept it and find a way to be our friend. How dare you suggest treating us as we treat you as a group and suggest employing our modus operandi.

Drapetomania.

You are angry and resentful. Translation: Don’t you dare “raise your head to the level of your master and overseer”. So what if we murder you under the guise of State action and kill your 12 year old children; bomb your churches and children and beat your women on the freeway in broad daylight. You should love your master. Why do you not?

Drapetomania.

This is the greatest nation on earth; we are a “superpower”. Look at all of the rich black athletes there are. Translation: Although, when convenient, we like to talk about that “African-American” President we really still value you as minstrels and gladiators. That’s why we pay them so much money while Black teachers, scientists, and professionals in other areas receive little notoriety. Stay in your place. This is great, look at all the crap we fill our empty lives with (made in China). Because we are perfectly willing to blow men, women and children to smithereens we are “super”. How are you not in awe of this? And how could you dare not consider the United States as the Happy Meal of nations?

Drapetomania

Your rage and anger is “unjustified” and “unwarranted”. Translation: Look Nigger, we are the arbiters of what is and is not acceptable, “justified” and “warranted”. We define the terms; your experiences mean nothing, your history means nothing, your opinions and feelings mean nothing. In other words, fuck you.

Drapetomania causes me to tell you, fuck you back.

I have spent considerable time discussing what I call Anglo Cognitive Dissonance (ACD) and, in the spirit of intellectual honesty, I think it only fair and appropriate to identify my own mental illness; Drapetomania. I’ve been knowing what was wrong with you, now you know what’s wrong with me.

So, I am the proverbial slave that is “sulky and dissatisfied without cause”. “Fuel enough to keep a small fire burning all night…” doesn’t cut it for me. I do not recognize any level of superiority in the white man; not intellectually, not physically and certainly not psycho-socially. However, I am proud to say that there have been many Black People in America that have suffered with Drapetomania. Malcolm X clearly had the illness as did: Marcus Garvey, Frederick Douglas, Nat Turner, Muhammad Ali, Miles Davis, Angela Davis, Huey P. Newton, H. Rap Brown, Jim Brown, Colin Kaepernick, Ralph Ellison, Langston Hughes, Gil-Scott Heron, Sojourner Truth, Dr. Joy DeGruy, James Brown, Curtis Mayfield, Bobby Seals, Harry Belafonte, my children and…

My father (RIP).

At least I’m in good company.

Comments

TomDorr's picture
TomDorr 2 years 44 weeks ago
#1

Drapetomania, comes from the Greek language, and is literally "runaway madness".

(Drapetes = runaway) + (mania = madness).

Cartright used this term for slaves who wanted to flee.

A slave is someone not allowed to flee. He is "enslaved".

Anyone afflicted with "drapetomania" who is not incarcerated is free to leave, no questions asked. As you are not incarcerated and are such an intellectual marvel, I assume you can scrape up the money for a plane ticket or boat ticket or bus ticket or train ticket to leave your "master" and be "free" of this country.

Tens of millions of people in this world leave their nations because they feel conditions there are intolerable. Evidently, this nation must be tolerable to you, as you have not fled, even though you said the worst thing that could happen to you is to die here.

Why not show some initiative and do what is necessary to ensure you don't have to breathe your last in a nation that you obviously despise.

I hope you don't leave, as you are very entertaining. But if things are so bad here, why stay, rather than go to some utopia where you will be happy? Or at least not consumed with unjustified rage and anger.

You can be as Drapetomaniacal as you want. No one really cares except you and a few of your sock puppets and self-flagellators. But its all just amusing chatter if you don't actually act on it and leave.

If I was in a place I despise, I'd leave if I had the resources, and I'd make sure I'd get the resources.

I think you realize that this is definitely the best place on earth for you, but you don't want to admit it.

Evidently, you must feel you are treated kindly enough, are well fed and clothed, and have enough warmth and electricity. Otherwise you'd leave.

Talk,Talk,Talk.

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zapdam. 2 years 44 weeks ago
#2

TomDorr

"Anyone afflicted with "drapetomania" who is not incarcerated is free to leave, no questions asked. As you are not incarcerated and are such an intellectual marvel, I assume you can scrape up the money for a plane ticket or boat ticket or bus ticket or train ticket to leave your "master" and be "free" of this country."

Wew! you're way out of line TomDorr. Beside being condescending, you're letting your dislike even hatred for Kenyatta cloud your reasoning. Anyone who tells a fellow citizen if they're troubled by things in their society or country, to either 'love it or leave it', that person relinquishes the argument by default and forfeits all debate.

Tom you're much to intelligent and worldly man to use that false argument.

I can't believe your lack of empathy for anyone who is just sick and tired of the racism. I'm actually disappointed in you, we've exchanged many a thought, you've always been kind and respectful, even though we haven't seen eye to eye. Tom you're a better man than this.

It's 2016 and there's no turning back the clock, no more shuffling niggas.

I'll tell you Tom, if i were a black man in America, this ingrained injustice would have hell to pay and those who perpetrated it would be the target of my wrath. Is it Kenyatta's just to uppity for a nigga.

Yes TomDorr you're way out of line.

TomDorr's picture
TomDorr 2 years 44 weeks ago
#3

Zap: With all do respect, I'll stand by my comment.

Kenyatta has shown not just a desire for change, but a desire to leave. That's what drapetomania is. He said his worst nightmare (or something to that effect), is to die in this country and be buried here.

Virtually every one of his blogs deals with how white persons cause grievous harm to blacks, even today.

If you were a black man, Zap, or even a white person, or asian, Hispanic, whoever, who consistantly and vehemently rants he doesn't want to be in this country when he dies, or who in this blog says he heas "drapetomania" which is, in historical context, a desire for a slave to "free", then I would say what is stopping you?

First, Kenyatta is not a slave. Slaves had no options, they couldn't flee. Second, his "master" does not exist, to make him stay here. If he has a "master", it is the financial security safety he has IN THIS COUNTRY.

I'm not simply saying "love it or leave it" to someone unhappy with something in this country. I don't hate Kenyatta. As I stated above, I don't want him to leave, if for no other reason that he is amusing.

But I will continue to call anybody's bluff who says that things are so horrible to them that they don't want to live in this country, or have the burning desire to "escape", which is the definition of "Drapetomania".

Kenyatta brought up leaving, not me.

I just exposed him for what he is-someone who says he "suffers" from Drapetopia, and thus, by definition and past blogs, has a burning desire to leave, but stays.

All talk and no action. Blogging in a tiny community such as this is not action. It is amusing and intellectually stimulating, but still talk.

I'm not out of line when Kenyatta says he "suffers" from drapetomania", a strong desire to leave. Just calling him on his self-aggrandising, profanity laced rhetoric.

All hyperbole, no heft. No action.

NatTurnersGhost's picture
NatTurnersGhost 2 years 44 weeks ago
#4

MapleLeaf I have come to know that it's your nature to be "moderate" in these situations and take the high ground. But Horton is an idiot and you know it. He walked right into a trap set by Brother K and was too stupid to know it. He didn't even get the fact that the brother was speaking on a level too heavy for him to grasp and he wants the rest of us to be "incarcerated" by his stupidity and racism. Horton you are a prisoner of your own stupidity and a slave to it as well. You missed the entire point dumbass. You keep mentioning a "tiny community" but you can't even attract attention in that small universe----you are reduced to riding the brother's coat tails. So if he is a big fish in a small pond, you are pond scum in that same pond.

You specialize in twisting shit and lying and to someone as stupid as you I guess that works, not here inbred. Your little inbred ancient ass keeps trying to focus on the two most obscure issues you can when the Brother has written hundreds of thousands of words and that's the best you can come up with. Know why? Because you are DIS functional Horton that's why. Don't you wish you had that brothers skill and talent? Don't you wish someone would read that bullshit you have attempted to write? Don't you wish you had his command of the language? Don't you wish you were as well spoken as he is (that shit really gets to you and it is terribly obvious)? Don't you wish you could spell (or at least had enough sense to know how to use a spell check). Even other white folks have commented about how completely stupid you are. You dumb MF you don't know shit from shinola or DIS from DAT.

Come on whiteboy, don't freeze up now.

Bodhisattva's picture
Bodhisattva 2 years 44 weeks ago
#5

NTG, No Horton didn't get it. I thought Kenyatta's post was clever and I got it immediately because I have read many of his posts. This guy Horton is a dishonest fool trying to perpetrate having some intelligence and education. Its also pretty plain to see that he is terribly envious of Kenyatta and Zapdam called it right when he mentioned he hates Kenyatta though he tried to walk that back. Were it not for Kenyattas article, Horton wouldn't have ever heard of the word "Drapetomania" just like 99% of us hadn't. So if nothing else, Kenyatta is educating us all.

http://newsone.com/1129765/more-black-men-in-prison-today-than-were-ensl...

What I think Mr. Kenyatta is saying is that the slave mentality still exists among blacks and whites. Whites diseased by what he calls Anglo Cognitive Dissonance and a few blacks with Drapetomania. He seems to be being sly in a very complex way. People like Horton are echoing what Cartwright was saying about black people on the one hand and on the other there are many blacks who are "submissive and knee benders". I don't think Kenyatta is one of them. In fact, I'm willing to bet on it. White people have never welcomed black persons that are inclined to raise their heads to a level with their master or overseer. In fact I read somewhere where Kenyatta says that the physical chains of slavery may have been removed, but the psychological chains are not so readily removed. Think about that for a while because he is absolutely right. The point is both white and black Americans have been psychologically damaged by what is often called one of the greatest crimes in history. The mere fact that a white man...a DOCTOR found it within himself to name a disease for non-subserviant blacks tells a story that is beyond Horton's pay grade. His constant haranguing is his equivalent of "whiiping the devil" out of Kenyatta but I don't put much faith in that being a viable strategy. No point in wasting time with him he is too limited and is actually a poster child for the mentality that kenyatta refers to. He and no other white person has any business or credibility in lecturing to black people and that includes me. Any person claiming intelligence would have to know that and accept that.

R. Kenyatta's picture
R. Kenyatta 2 years 44 weeks ago
#6

As usual, thanks to all of you, both supporters and detractors, for your participation and interest in establishing a dialogue. Very astute of you Bodhisattva and Ghost. I knew you'd "get it" Ghost (as I mentioned to you earlier this morning) but I am pleasantly surprised that a white person understood so quickly. When I refer to a "master" I am speaking in terms of economics, institutions, political and societal structures. When I refer to "slaves" I am speaking in those same terms enveloped in psychological realities. I realize that there are some who may lack the cerebral horsepower to understand this methodology which is good in terms of being an intellectual filter; I am speaking to only those with the mental capacity to comprehend.

Mr. Zap, you don't count in my aforementioned assessment because you are an enigma in every sense of the word. No one can infiltrate my respect for you and the intellectual courage you have exhibited over the past several years. We have history, and though I will not hesitate to take you, or anyone else, to task there is no substitute for the investment of time and the resultant relationships that only time can solidify. Even Brothers fight from time to time.

You can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig.

http://www.thomhartmann.com/users/melanicman/blog/2015/02/black-africa-bargain-basement-deal-white-america

Keep reading.

Mzungu.3000's picture
Mzungu.3000 2 years 44 weeks ago
#7

Don't be so quick to write off all white people Kenyatta. I had no problem understanding the point of your essay. You're a smart enough man to know that not all white people are as dense as you might tend to think no matter the unfortunate deficits of some.

chuckle8's picture
chuckle8 2 years 44 weeks ago
#9

T-Rump and his supporters seem very dissatisfied with America (especially, that black guy in the White House). Why don't they leave?

zapdam.'s picture
zapdam. 2 years 44 weeks ago
#10

Perhaps the real 21 century slaves in America are the racists, who have been taught a lifetime of norms from birth predicated on hatred, buoyed by the knowledge that even their countries icons, forefathers and presidents were like them devout racists.

Even though instinctively they may be at odds with their learned behavior, they are culturally bound to an abnormality that overrides all sense of respect and fairplay . An affliction their friends, fellow citizens , societal demands won't allow them walk back or escape from. They are by birth indoctrinated and condemned by the history of their countries ingrained beliefs and deeds. Like it or not they are slaves to the expectations of a fraternity, a citizenry of unreasoned haters.

R. Kenyatta's picture
R. Kenyatta 2 years 44 weeks ago
#11

CHUCKLE8, damn I wish I'd said that! Succinct to the point of brutality. Both you and Mr. Zap stole the show and I acquiesce to being dwarfed by your comments. I am truly speechless and that does not happen with any known frequency.

Brother Allen,that link and exposition is awesome and tells the tale I am trying to tell. In Los Angeles now about to have lunch with Ghost and this will, obviously, be a focus of our conversation. Thank you, Brother. I'll have more to say on this later.

NatTurnersGhost's picture
NatTurnersGhost 2 years 44 weeks ago
#12

"In the 21st century, white America got a wake-up call after 9/11/01. White America and the western world came to realize that people of color had not gone away, faded into the woodwork or just 'disappeared' as the Great White West kept on its merry way of ignoring black concerns".

"The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three-strike law and then wants us to sing 'God Bless America.' No, no, no, God damn America, that's in the Bible for killing innocent people," he said in a 2003 sermon. "God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme."

"We bombed Hiroshima, we bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon, and we never batted an eye," Rev. Wright said in a sermon on Sept. 16, 2001.

"We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back to our own front yards. America's chickens are coming home to roost," he told his congregation.

Pastor Jeremiah Wright definately has Drapetomonia Brother Kenyatta as the quotes signify. Looks like Truth Telling is one of the symptoms. Then they villified the brother for not being a "knee bender" and telling their asses the truth. In general white folks hate the truth...hate it, especially about them when it ain't glorifying them. Yeah boy, you in damned good company.

And while you holier than thou whities are talking voodoo-doodoo in response to my comment--- another one of our kids has been murdered by one of your pink pigs. Instead of being 12 like Tamir Rice, he was 13. And save that crap you are about to sprout until black pigs start killing your children. Then we can talk.

rs allen 2 years 44 weeks ago
#13

I wonder what Rev. Wright has to say about what I assume is now his exparishioner.

And as is being shown in this present election cycle white amerika enthusiastically continues to dig their own grave.

NatTurnersGhost's picture
NatTurnersGhost 2 years 44 weeks ago
#14

Yep, Brother Al. Rev Wright received recognition from the WHITE House as a Serviceman for his work as a cardio vascular technician. But as soon as he start telling the TRUTH, they vilified him. Funny thing about that grave, they don't seem to know that they are being buried alive by their own hands. I would be interested in what his relationship is now with the Uncle Tom in chief.

God bless Anerica, but I ain't singing that song. I got another song for America it's called The Thrill is Gone by B.B. King.

zapdam.'s picture
zapdam. 2 years 44 weeks ago
#15

Ghost

Obama just announced a 'broke US' just 'gave' the mass murderer Netanyahu a 38 billion dollar( 38 thousand million dollar) arms package to go kill more unarmed Palestinian civilians. Th mass murder thousands of Arab children by Israel under Netanyahu's right wing extremist government, just got rewarded by Obama's government.

GAZA the 60 year open air concentration camp lockdown imposed by Israel on the Palestinians, just got reinforced and tightened with Americas help. Israels theft of Arab land just got a green light for more of the same. UN's demand for Israel's removal of 'illegal settlements and occupation' just got 'flipped the bird' by the US and the psychopath Netanyahu. 'Peace in the middle east' just got another knife shoved in its chest by the United States of America and Netanyahu is grinning from ear to ear.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/02/world/middleeast/us-increase-military-...

NatTurnersGhost's picture
NatTurnersGhost 2 years 44 weeks ago
#16

MapleLeaf. Like I said "Uncle Thom in Chief". Palestinians are called "sand niggers". Assuming that mindset, is it any wonder that the same things that happen day to day to Palestinians happen day to day to black folks in the U.S.?

In defense of Obama or an other President, he damned well better do Israel's bidding. Any black person that occupies the WHITE House is by default an Uncle Tom because that's the only way they can get there. Barack Obama sold his soul to THE DEVIL. How the hell can you attend Reverend Wright's church forever, but then when you get in office coddle Israel?

http://www.davidsheen.com/racism/

https://electronicintifada.net/content/ethnic-cleansing-africans-israel/...

http://muftah.org/bigotry-in-israel-ethiopian-jews-african-refugees/#.V9...

NatTurnersGhost's picture
NatTurnersGhost 2 years 44 weeks ago
#17

The thrill is gone
The thrill is gone away
The thrill is gone baby
The thrill is gone away
You know you done me wrong baby
And you'll be sorry someday

The thrill is gone
It's gone away from me
The thrill is gone baby
The thrill is gone away from me
Although, I'll still live on
But so lonely I'll be

The thrill is gone
It's gone away for good
The thrill is gone baby
It's gone away for good
Someday I know I'll be open armed baby
Just like I know a good man should

You know I'm free, free now baby
I'm free from your spell
Oh I'm free, free, free now
I'm free from your spell
And now that it's all over
All I can do is wish you well

THE THRILL IS GONE MF!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPlsqo2bk2M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzTlB-TjAzM

zapdam.'s picture
zapdam. 2 years 44 weeks ago
#18

Ghost

The total Jewish population in Israel , just slightly over 6 million, the remaing almost 2 million Arab Israeli's . The approx Jewish population in America , slightly over 6 million, 69% of whom vote democratic. So there you go, every liberal government is terrified and controlled by the Jewish vote. The right wingers who own the hard core christain voters, believe they need Israel for the coming rapture.

Palestinians suffer decades and decades of oppression, degregation, theft of land, humiliating occupation and death because US politicians are to gutless to do what's right.

R. Kenyatta's picture
R. Kenyatta 2 years 44 weeks ago
#19

"I'm free from your spell..you know you done me wrong, and you'll be sorry some day"

Ghost, you outdid yourself this time homeboy. Not only in the message you are sending by citing this particular song in the context in which you mention it; but also in terms of the link showing The King with Eric Clapton and Jimmie Vaughn. I don't know who the Black cat is, or the other white boy nor had I ever seen that video performance...but it was awesome. You can see The King's physical demise from the first video to the second one with Eric (he couldn't even stand). The love and adoration he was shown brought water to mine eyes; especially knowing he would soon be dead.

That haunting song needs to be the National Anthem of Black People in America; caveat being that there never was any "thrill" for us, the illusion of the thrill...is gone. MLK said "I Have a Dream" which neccesitates sleep; when one wakes the thrill isn't only gone, it becomes realized it was never there and, in fact, your dream was, in reality, a nightmare. Unfortunately, there are still many sleepwalking Black People in America, but they become fewer and fewer each day because white folks have a way of wakening their asses up; sure as hell woke me up. Many will remain comatose, but that's a manifestation of reality being too much to bear. Matter of fact, the United States is full of zombies both Black and white. I think it no coincidence that it is a blues tune. And though I , typically, neither like nor understand "the blues", looks like I need to revisit that and change my tune. I'll be playing it when I leave the land of the free, home of the slave. Until then, I'll just keep right on exposing this bullshit for what it is.

Nice job, Brother...nice job.

See, like I told you yesterday; there is hope for you.

rs allen 2 years 44 weeks ago
#20

Brother Kenyatta,

I believe the black cat was Robert Cray.

Yes, BB King is considered a saint amongst the bluesmen. It's to bad the Steve V. couldn't have been there rather than his brother, but it was nice way to give the Vaugh brothers their due.

Brother Nat, nice repurposing!

NatTurnersGhost's picture
NatTurnersGhost 2 years 44 weeks ago
#21

Big brothers, what y'all expect? I got good teachers.

Bodhisattva's picture
Bodhisattva 2 years 44 weeks ago
#22

Kenyatta, is Drapetomania contagious? Because I think I might have it and I'm white.

NTG,Zapdam you might be interested in a recent e-mail from former Joint Chiefs Chairman Colin Powell. The e-mail basically says Israel has several hundred nuclear weapons all aimed at Iran but Israel has never declared those weapons nor declared themselves a nuclear armed state in accordance with international law. I don't understand this. The United States has threatened Iran for even thinking about nukes, bombed the hell out of Iraq because they "thought" they had WMD/nukes but Israel has them and won't tell the world and the U.S. has no problem with that. Where is the outrage? Where are the inspectors? How can they keep this a secret and say screw the world and international law? Seems like as long as it's white people having nukes it's okay but not for the majority of the world's citizens. Either everyone should have them or no one should have them. A total double standard very weird.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/Colin-Powell-leaked-emails-Israel-has-200-nukes-all-pointed-at-Iran-former-US-secretary-of-state-says/articleshow/54380530.cms

rs allen 2 years 44 weeks ago
#23

reply #22

It's only contagious for the sane. Only the sane.

I know it's almost completely unrelated but I ran across this while scarfing down my scrambled eggs this morning. Starts my day off with a smile so I thought I'd share.

Children finding their roots: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsBnnU35Pso

zapdam.'s picture
zapdam. 2 years 44 weeks ago
#24

Bodhisattva

We are now light years away from Kenyatta's main topic , but i couldn't resist answering to something who along with you and Ghost i helped start. Hopefully Kenyatta will understand we now have to use this method of discussion since the wall of censorship has been raised here on this site.

You've just pointed out with your link to the 'Times of India', http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/Colin-Powell-leaked-emails-I... , that Colin Powell leaked emails: Israel has '200 nukes all pointed at Iran', former US secretary of state says. Seems Israels answer to peace in the middle east is to kill 80 million Iranians, something that will see the total destruction of Israel by a billion and a half Muslims.

A little history would be in order , according to then Israels leader Ben-Gurion, (1) Israel “has no plans for producing nuclear weapons”; (2) Israel had no plutonium (3) it would not accept International Atomic Energy Agency - IAEA inspection. This was the 1950's.

" Israel's nuclear programme has been an open secret since a disgruntled technician, Mordechai Vanunu, blew the whistle on it in 1986, the official Israeli position is still never to confirm or deny its existence" Estimates as to the size of the Israeli nuclear arsenal vary between 75 and 400 nuclear warheads.

Israel the hypocrites they are ,repeatedly lied to the IAEA , international atomic weapons inspectors about Israels nuclear weapons program, something they acuse Iran of doing, but of course Israel unlike Iran did do exactly that. They even went as far as to build false walls and hide 'special rooms' from the nuclear inspectors.

Was Israels weapons program built for defense, no not really , Israel was caught trying to sell nuclear warheads to the racist aparheid regime of the 1980's South Africa. Click the links.

International laws don't apply to 'friends of America', just ask the Saudis ,beheading more people than ISIS and using cluster bombs in Yemen against civilians as Americas proxy army, a war crime or the monarchy of Bahrain, home of the largest US naval base in the mid east, who kill , imprison and torture dissidents for wanting freedom, all backed by the USA in the name of protecting American assets.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/7757687/Isra...

http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Israel/Isrhist.html

zapdam.'s picture
zapdam. 2 years 43 weeks ago
#25

"but if he (the Master)keeps him in the position that we learn from the Scriptures he was intended to occupy, that is, the position of submission; and if his master or overseer be kind and gracious in his hearing towards him, without condescension, and at the same time ministers to his physical wants, and protects him from abuses, the negro is spell-bound, and cannot run away."

"If any one or more of them, at any time, are inclined to raise their heads to a level with their master or overseer, humanity and their own good requires that they should be punished until they fall into that submissive state which was intended for them to occupy. They have only to be kept in that state, and treated like children to prevent and cure them from running away."

I keep reading these statements and just can't believe the insanity the blackman endured at the hands of racist white 'owners'. Surely enough there are 21st century racists who believe these words today as their gospel. Perhaps America is a looney bin today because its roots are so deeply planted in the absurdity of this mental disorder. Perhaps America wrote the epitaph of its own eventual destructruction in its learned hatred.

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R. Kenyatta 2 years 43 weeks ago
#26

Mr. Zap, actually you, Ghost and Bodhisattva are not off topic at all (not that it matters), the discussion goes where it goes. The fact is that I think it a natural progression that this op-ed would, at some point, morph into the conduct of Israel. Israel is the United States "Lite" in that region of the globe and, thusly, reflects U.S. attitudes and policies. As Ghost pointed out, Palestinians are considered "Sand Niggers" and, just like U.S. "Niggers" are treated the same way in general. Shootings of unarmed Palestinians by Israeli soldiers/police abound; just like here. And, just like here the, mainly caucasoid, perpetrators of these acts are rarely, if ever, brought to justice. They are not brought to justice because, just like here, the white folks are able to hide behind the cloak of "It wasn't me", yet they do nothing to stop it. They do nothing to stop it because they do not want it to stop. Even "Jews" who are black are subject to Israeli apartheid.

You are absolutely correct in your assessment that "America is a looney bin today because its roots are so deeply planted in the absurdity of this mental disorder". And nothing makes that so blatently obvious as do the two candidates that the United States has chosen to be its next President. The world sees this and is realizing that this is a "looney bin" (something that Melanic people in America have known for centuries). Most "Americans" have no idea how despised they are around the globe; mainly because they never leave their little hovels and don't read much. Even when they do, their propaganda machine tells them that it's because they are jealous of your "freedoms".

Gotta keep them Niggers in their place. Anglo Cognitive Dissonance is a world wide phenomena.

Bodhisattva, funny quip. I think Brother Allen's response mirrors my own in response to your query.

Brother Allen, thanks; I thought that may have been Robert Cray, but wasn't sure. I figured it was either him or Keb' Mo'. You know, after a while we all look alike.

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Bodhisattva 2 years 43 weeks ago
#27

RSALLEN I am glad to know that my insanity of Drapetomania is actually a sign of sanity, although I am unable to relate like you may be able to. I am still blown away that someone actually came up with a "diagnosis" for black persons that weren't happy about being treated as they were and are. Zapdam pretty much summed it up for me "I keep reading these statements and just can't believe the insanity the blackman endured at the hands of racist white 'owners'. Surely enough there are 21st century racists who believe these words today as their gospel. Perhaps America is a looney bin today because its roots are so deeply planted in the absurdity of this mental disorder. Perhaps America wrote the epitaph of its own eventual destructruction in its learned hatred". The insanity that you spoke of Zapdam, continues and at some point it is going to come to a head not just in the United States but around the world.

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zapdam. 2 years 43 weeks ago
#28

The band Kaleo, are whiter than white but black as black........the blackman influences the world, if only America would realize this treasure and would stop being an obstacle to their potential.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlCZ-DakfyE

Kaleo is an Icelandic rock band, formed in 2012.

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zapdam. 2 years 43 weeks ago
#29

So the last post accepted by Thom Hartmann inc was Sept 15th , 4 days ago, wonder what gives. Kenyatta , you've just been nominated the sub Thom hartmann posting board.

Bodhisattva the outrages white America has perpetrated on all minorities, be it Black, Native, Asian or Hispanic certainly does jive with Americas own press clippings of being an all encompassing one people. America has always and still is , living a lie.

TomDorr you've disappeared ,where are you?

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R. Kenyatta 2 years 43 weeks ago
#30

Mr. Zap. I am aware of that which you speak of and am looking into it. As of now, I haven't a clue. I'll e-mail you as soon as I get back to my office.

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zapdam. 2 years 43 weeks ago
#31

White boys got the blues.

Kaleo - Broken Bones Lyrics

Artist: Kaleo

Album: A/B

Heyo! SONGLYRICS just got interactive. Highlight. Review: RIFF-it.
RIFF-it good.

The devil's going to make me a free man
The devil's going to set me free
Oh, the devil's going to make me a free man
The devil's going to set me free

I've been down, deep Texas; Mississippi state
Hoping things might go my way
For every hard earned dollar I make
There stands a white man just to take it away
Some might say I talk loud, see if I care
Unlike them, don't walk away from my fear
I've busted bones, broken stones, looked the devil in the eye
I hope he's going to break these chains, oh yeah

The devil's going to make me a free man
The devil's going to set me free
The devil's going to make me a free man
The devil's going to set me free
(Yeah, set me free)

Another hard day, no water, no rest
I saw my chance, so I got him at last
I took his six shooter, put two in his chest
He'll never say a word no more
Oh, he'll never say a word no more
The devil got him good for sure

Ain't got no place to call a home
Only chains and broken bones
Ain't got no place to call a home

So come on Lord, won't you take me now?
Ain't got no place to call a home
Only chains and broken bones
Ain't got no place to call a home
So come on Lord, what you waiting for?

Oh, the devil's going to make me a free man
The devil's going to set me free
The devil's going to make me a free man
The devil's going to set me free

Ain't got no place to call a home
(The devil's going to make me a free man)
Only chains and broken bones
(The devil's going to set me free)
Ain't got no place to call a home
(The devil's going to make me a free man)
So come on Lord, won't you take me now?
(The devil's going to set me free)
Ain't got no place to call a home
(The devil's going to make me a free man)
Only chains and broken bones
(The devil's going to set me free)
Ain't got no place to call a home
(The devil's going to make me a free man)
So come on Lord, what you waiting for?
(The devil's going to set me free)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQRy_ygDF4o

rs allen 2 years 43 weeks ago
#32

Who cares what happened to the white nationalist? Personally I don't care if he got run over by a bus......Salute to the bus driver!

The world is a better place without him no matter what name he wants to go by; but I expect he will show up once again trying to hide behind some other moniker that still smells like camel shit.

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NatTurnersGhost 2 years 43 weeks ago
#33

Brother Al, WORD! I think that white boy just was outclassed. He got called out on his bull by a number of people and acted like cowards always act. And yep, he'll show his sorry ass up again and I'll be there to wipe it clean with course sandpaper. That is a typical move on the white folks part, they think they OWN everything, including the internet. Little do they know that the internet is the frontier that they don't own. The brothers gave that boy the flux. Sitting up here talking about how liberal they are but Kenyatta peeped me to something yesterday. Check this out---these white folks on Hartmann's site and perpetrating on his show about "African Americans" haven't made any mention about this

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2016/09/museum-sheds-light-afr...

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TomDorr 2 years 43 weeks ago
#34

Zap: Still here. Went on a short vacation with my wife, and had a great time.

I posted a blog reply to "drapetomania" as pseudoscience, and other examples of pseudoscience, but it doesn't seem that any blogs are being posted.

It's amazing how much the sock puppets are pining for my wisdom.

rs-I am still of this world, and very happy and well. I guess you are so obsessed with me because I called your master on his hyperbole and said he was free to leave this country if he hates it so much.

Zap: I will continue to counter Ken-Ya-Al's racist rants as long as he whines them. If I am condescending it is because he is just one of those "revolutionaries" that do nothing but google topics to complain about.

If one doesn't actually live in this country, one would think that African Americans were still hunted down, had no opportunity, and were still slaves. That is not the case. Those enslaved by their own unjustified resentments and anger will never be free, no matter where they live.

As I said Zap, Keny-Al-Gost is amusing, and it is fun to respond (especially when his sock puppets appear), but his screeds have little basis in today's reality.

If Thom is not accepting blogs, I have no idea what therapeutic outlet there will be for his rage. Maybe he could take up knitting.

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NatTurnersGhost 2 years 43 weeks ago
#35

Horton, the only one going around stalking and googling is you (did you think we didn't know?). Maybe that shit you attempted to post just doesn't have any value. No one is interested. MapleLeaf knows you are a fool but just too polite to tell you that you are an illiterate inbred. I don't suffer that kind of compassion for little frosted mini-wheat dick having white boys. You can't even come up with an original thought. Did Kenyatta teach you that word "pining"? Yeah, I got your sorry ass pegged. Maybe I should just call you Doro instead of Horton. Which do you fancy most?

Don't freeze up now white boy-girl.

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Bodhisattva 2 years 43 weeks ago
#36

Oh joy Horton is back...I knew I smelled something, I thought the dog farted.

Seems like Zapdam is a bit of a shit stirrer to me. And yes Zapdam, Horton clearly finds Kenyatta to be an "uppity n----r" on top of being extremely envious of him which is waaaaaaay obvious..

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NatTurnersGhost 2 years 43 weeks ago
#37
Quote TomDorr:

But I will continue to call anybody's bluff...

Yeah right Horton. What hapened on that challenge the brother offered you? You know the one where you were challenged to prove who you are, what your accomplishments and education are and what your children have accomplished. He made it very public and even offered to have Zapdam be the clearing house, since you love Zadam so much. Matter of fact it's a weird thang with you and Zadam because Zapdam says the same things that Brother Kenyatta says but you kiss his ass. Somehow a black man speaking for himself affronts you. You are a pathetic old ass racist trailer trash whitey with no education and nothing to do. The brothers here especially my big bro Kenyatta and Brother Allen as well represent an amplification of your failures in life. You love to say "I eviscerated" and "I exposed" this and that. When the fact is you haven't done squat whiteboy other than show the world how ignorant you are and follow us around like a band groupie willing to go down on all the guys just to be on the bus...in the back. And the only thing worse than being an ignorant white person is being proud of it and you, my friend, are both. Now oaf, when you grow some grapes come on back I got some more for ya.

Bodhisattva that was some funny stuff. next time my dog farts I'll think Horton is at the door. LMAO.

rs allen 2 years 43 weeks ago
#38

So storm trooper you and the wife had a fine vacation; where'd you go visit friends in Leith N.D.? Or were you down in Tulsa egging on the slave patrol to shoot down another unarmed brother?

So you're home safe and happy.................mores the pity.

Now once again you piece of shit, I deal with the likes of you almost every single day of the week as does every brother and sister that posts here. Over the last couple of years I as well as others have tried in various ways to show you how you and your tired out stats and thinking is flat out wrong. And I long since have given up in the regard, you are what you are. A small minded little bigot and racist. At least be a man and own it.

Lastly storm front, learn how to read and comprehend what it is you just read. Nowhere was I or did I address you and until I do so at the minimum have the courtesy to not to address me in way shape or form.

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NatTurnersGhost 2 years 43 weeks ago
#39

Tell his dumbass one mo ginn Brother Al. You know how that inbreeding retards brain development.

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zapdam. 2 years 43 weeks ago
#40

Thought personal abuse directed at any one idividual was against the rules of Thom's web site. Personal abuse from either side does nothing to help the dialogue or further the conversation. In fact using personal abuse might indicate you might be just losing the argument and now in frustration you've swithched to verbally punching out. Although now that i've said that, i guess i've done just that, heaped personal abuse, when i was frustrated, feeling i was not making my point or i was just wasting my time talking to the wall. I guess that makes me a hypocrite for making this comment. But personal abuse is still wrong.

rs allen 2 years 43 weeks ago
#41

Great, just fk'n great. Now I gotta live with a miss manners.

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R. Kenyatta 2 years 43 weeks ago
#42

Gentlemen, gentlemen (and ladies), perchance, might I prescribe the following?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDHqLDxONR8

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Mzungu.3000 2 years 43 weeks ago
#43
Quote TomDorr:

I posted a blog reply to "drapetomania" as pseudoscience, and other examples of pseudoscience, but it doesn't seem that any blogs are being posted.

Okay...where is it? You should do yourself a favor like RSAllen suggests and learn a bit about reading comprehension. It is pretty plain to any eight year old that Kenyatta is speaking metaphorically. Jeeze, what don't you get? And spare us a regurgitation of the wikipedia info that we all have looked up because like Bodhisattva mentioned you had never heard the term before Kenyatta brought it up and I suspect none of us had either. So don't try to come off as some type of authority now man. The point is that Cartwright was taken seriously and it seems you are a carbon copy of his ridiculous attitudes.

Nice tune Mr. Kenyatta, never heard of that guy but the song is very "cool".

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zapdam. 2 years 43 weeks ago
#44

rs allen , 'miss manners', lol very funny. R. Kenyatta i agree with Mzungu.3000 'cool out' is a great tune( 4th time i played it today) . Makes me want to go coastal and sit a some great bar playing tunes like that, overlooking the Pacific on some really dreamie afternoon. NatTurnersGhost all the best my friend. And Bodhisattva that comment of 'stiring' , yup i'm guilty as hell ,haha .

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Bodhisattva 2 years 43 weeks ago
#45

Zapdam I figured as much. I have to agree that Cool Out is a great song. Like Mzungu I never heard of Leroy Hutson. I am learning a lot from you Kenyatta and please keep up the good work!

NTG....big smile to you and puppy.

rs allen 2 years 43 weeks ago
#46

Yeah, whatever zap. I was only being kind because other brothers have given you some cover. But make no mistake, if you want to fill up your dance card with white nationalist whores and then expect all of us to treat them with any respect..........you can go fuck yourself because I've been around that same dance floor with with those assholes. So I'll speak to them any way I want to. I Don't expect you watch my back but I also don't expect you to be on my back to carry as weight, that's for the other brothers. Not me.

Indeed brother Kenyatta, a very cool tune. I'm surprised it'd be new to anyone. For me though it's been more of this type of week;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXYSysb6-iw

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NatTurnersGhost 2 years 43 weeks ago
#47

We always got your back Brother Al, front too. Like I said before, none of them are going to sacrifice their own for us no matter how stupid, offensive and ignorant they are and we ain't either. I'm on the record with that.

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TomDorr 2 years 42 weeks ago
#48

As I said, for whatever reason, I could not get this blog printed several days ago.

Here it is:

Pseudoscience vs Solutions;

The author of a recent blog claimed he was suffering from Drapetomania, a malady invented during slavery to explain why slaves desired freedom.The author claimed that many other African Americans suffered from this disease, from Malcolm X to Colin Kaepernick, to even his own children.

As I frequently find this individual very entertaining, I knew he said he was a "well paid wordsmith" whose worst fear is that he would die in this country, and that he didn't consider himself an American.I responded, happily, that he needn't suffer from "Drapetomania" any longer, as he was free to leave this country by plane or train, if he so strongly felt the need.

Looking further into "drapetomania", I also doscovered that even today, similar examples of pseudoscience are clouding the issues of race and opportunities in America.

Fron the "Bell Curve" theory of black intellectual inferiority by Herrnstein and Murray, to F.C. Welsing's assertion that whites are genetically recessive and oppress blacks to enable their racial survival, self serving "scientific" narratives have harmed efforts to reduce poverty and enhance achievement in the African American community.

Fortunately, there are verifiable, measurable cultural strategies that have reduced poverty and dysfunction for all groups in this country that can be universally applied to enable success.

The greatest predictor of adult financial achievement and positives outcomes for children is family structure.A family headed by two married persons is far less likely to fail financially and parentally than one headed by a single parent. In addition, parents that impart strong educational values and are active in their children's education will greately enhance their chances of achievement. No matter what the school district or zip code.

Changing mindsets that place immediate gratification over responsible long term behavior, or that value education less than "image" , will not be easy or glamorous. Which will turn off many "leaders" looking for publicity or personal financial gain.

The government can actually help by significantly increasing the tax benefits for middle class married families, to incentivize family stability and occupational effort.Income limits for child care credits for married families should also be increased, so as not to penalize economic achievement.

Finally, academic merit-based scholarships need to be significantly increased, to reward achievement without penalizing income earners.

We must end the polarizing pseudoscience and bogus sociology that permeates and obfuscates discussions of race and achievement in this country. Implementing cultural solutions that emphasize and reward functional families and educational effort, will do far more to improve the incomes, health, and safety of all Americans than constantly theorizing and arguing overy why such disparities exist for specific populations.

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Mzungu.3000 2 years 42 weeks ago
#49

Zenbrarian, he is a clever man indeed. You'll notice that only one idiot failed to get Kenyatta's point which was metaphorical. Anyone can reference wikipedia, I'm sure most everybody did because I am certain none of us had heard of the term. This is the troll "Tommy" who is so envious of Kenyatta he follows him around because he can't get any attention on his own merits. You'll notice that he tried to get that tripe posted about "Drapetomania" and Thom wouldn't even publish it. There you have it.

Quote R. Kenyatta:

This is the greatest nation on earth; we are a “superpower”. Look at all of the rich black athletes there are. Translation: Although, when convenient, we like to talk about that “African-American” President we really still value you as minstrels and gladiators. That’s why we pay them so much money while Black teachers, scientists, and professionals in other areas receive little notoriety.

Notice that Tommy refers to Kenyatta as "entertaining". Oh he's a real piece of white trash from the word go. Take a look at comment #27 from Bodhisattva on the Terence Crutcher thread and see what a vile piece of shit that guy is.

Kenyatta comes on strong and I believe it is because he has no fear of white people as many blacks do. That is really the point I think he is trying to make with this Drapetomania article. Remember that white people have never really supported outspoken black people. On top of being incredibly smart the guy is courageous. He uses his real name and is willing to back up what he says.

I left you a note on the troll "Tommy" on the White Privilege thread since you asked about his panties in a bunch. The fact that so many people in a basically all white format support Kenyatta only pisses this idiot off more. He is so insanely envious that he goes as far as to insult people that agree with Kenyatta including Thom Hartmann himself. By the way, I have heard Kenyatta in conversations with Hartmann on the show where they disagreed (rarely) but you can tell they really respect each other.

I'm white and I don't make any apologies for being white because as Kenyatta puts it "that's a cosmic accident" that I had no control over. But, I do realize that white people for 400 years and to this very day have abused and mistreated my black brothers and sisters, and I fully stand with them as they seek redress.

Kenyatta says that his "weapon of choice" is ink, the almighty pen. If you haven't read Kenyatta's The Quiet Riot I strongly suggest you do. It will blow your mind. I don't feel the least threatened by the truth and that's what he speaks...the truth.

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Bodhisattva 2 years 42 weeks ago
#50

Horton...I didn't read your entire comment because I knew you had nothing of value to say. That was supposed to be your article? Really? No wonder Thom wouldn't post that crap. If I were you I'd ask him why. You should ask and share with us the results.

I do see that under my tutelage your illiterate butt has learned to spell DIS-functional. So now instead of being DIS-functionally illiterate you are only functionally illiterate. Congrats.

Poor Horton...once again relegated to sniffing Kenyatta's ass and operating in his wake. Too ignorant, too poorly read to write anything of his own that would be of interest to others. Tisk, tisk, tisk.

Hey Horton, maybe Hemlock is the answer. Just sayin'.

Aw shux now Horton, cheer up! Sing with me... "I been working on dee railroad, all night and daaaay". LOLLOL!

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