I was watching a program on the History Channel the other night and it was showing the fall of the Third Reich and the unconditional surrender of Germany in May 1945. As I watched the American Soldiers forcing the local villagers to file past the heaps of dead Concentration Camp prisoners it gave me an uncomfortable feeling different than that I'd felt on the other hundred times I'd seen such footage. The local townspeople acted shocked and horrified with what they were forced (at gunpoint at times) to witness. We Americans seem to feel that there was justice being served as those civilians had to face, head on, what the Nazis had done. Wouldn't it be Just if groups of Americans had to file past the piles of dead children created by OUR military? Be they Vietnamese, Iraqi, or whoever happened to be the victims of the American "adventure" of the decade. We Americans sit in our living rooms and blankly watch the images of the War du jour with such a disconnect that we feel NO guilt because somehow we wrote an e-mail or called our Congressman or in some other way lamely protested against American Militarism. Shame on us! Republican, Democrat, Independent, Progressive or whatever title we give ourselves we are ALL responsible equally, just as those German civilians filing past the corpses at Auschwitz...

As you sit and read this just remember, if you are an American you have the collective guilt of your nation’s actions and the blood on your hands, and it is little more than a metaphor. It may as well be the real blood of an innocent Afghan snuffed out by one of our Predator Drones. Shame on you, shame on me and shame on ALL of us...

Peace, Randy


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VictorLozano 8 years 39 weeks ago

Youre an idiot Randy. Those people knew what was going on in the concentration camps and did nothing to stop it or make it public. Take your guilt and shove it your moron. Why are you feeling sorry for those people and didn't mention the thousands of Jews that were murdered? Are you one of the many anti Semites I've seen posting their hate rant on this we site? Why don't you move to Afghanistan and fight along your Taliban friends. Idiot

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Randy95023 8 years 39 weeks ago

Call me an "Idiot" if you will, but WE know the actions of OUR military and while the numbers vary we have the blood of the innocents on our hands just as much as any German did. I don't even know where you come up with me being "anti-Semitic". There was nothing in my comment that had anything to do with the motivation of the war crimes. Perhaps the Nazis did it for racial purposes and we do it for the Almighty Dollar. Does that make you feel any better about the blood on YOUR hands? I sense from your anger that you don't like your portion of the guilt (as I'm sure many "good" Germans would understand...).

Peace, Randy

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VictorLozano 8 years 39 weeks ago

Guilt? I'm not some weak minded hippie that feels guilty about someone elses action. My hands are clean moron. You sound like all the other drones that talk this type of weak willed crap. Weak men like the ones in DC that are controlled by lobbyists and unions are the ones that should feel guilty and do have blood on their hands.

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Randy95023 8 years 38 weeks ago

Mr. Lozano, You think I'm a "weak minded hippie"? I'm a lifelong Republican and a Department of Defense employee (Security Officer) for 31 years. I'm also an ex-cop and was a member of the John Birch Society and staunchly anti-communist through the 70's. I've only abandoned the Republican party and turned progressive in the last 10 years due to the total sell out of the Republican party. As far as being anti-Semitic I have always supported Israel and have been involved with Vad Yashem's Holocaust project.

Now that I've probably spent 5 minutes explaining myself to someone who probably doesn't really deserve an explanation I will say this: Go back to the original post and if you're IQ is above room temperature you might, just might, understand what I'm saying. I'm saying that when our military acts on our behalf and causes the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people we (like the Germans of WW2) ALL have blood on our hands. If you were forced to walk past mounds of Corpses of innocent Vietnamese or Iraqi civilians and knew they were dead because of the irresponsible actions of your government you should feel guilt. If you do NOT then you are either too ignorant to understand the premise at all, or simply you are a sociopath.

When America kills in YOUR name you cannot shirk your responsibility AS an American. I, as a Christian am getting sick of my beloved Nation killing many thousands of people needlessly in my name.

Peace, Randy

Alberto Ceras 8 years 38 weeks ago

Thanks, Randy, for your thoughtful, compassionate expressions of concern for others. If only all "Americans" shared your insight and understanding.

I suggest that you simply ignore Victor Lozano. He is, as you surmise, demonstrably ignorant and probably a sociopath. His incoherent ravings aren't worth a respose.

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SueN 8 years 38 weeks ago

Personal attacks are not allowed on this board, Victor.

Alberto Ceras 8 years 38 weeks ago

Randy, all too few Americans share your concerns. The U.S. has spread wanton destruction, killing and injustice across broad swaths of this small planet, the only home that we have and that we must share with others. And yet few even care. They rant on about the assault on their pocketbooks.

A Pakistani, Iraqi or Afghan mother’s grief at the loss of a child is just as intense, just as real as would be that of an American mother. And the killing in Bahrain at the hands of its dictator gets scarcely a mention. Well, the U.S. has strategic interests there. So what if its U.S. backed dictator must kill a few hundred innocent civilians (maybe with the Saudi’s help)? A little killing now and then doesn't matter to the U.S. so long as it can dock its 5th fleet there.

The U.S. has suspended the rule of law under both Bush and Obama, not only abroad but within its own borders. Bush ought to have been tried for crimes against humanity and Obama ought to be impeached for his assertion of guilt against Bradley Manning (who hasn’t even been formally charged let alone tried and convicted). A president swears to uphold the laws of the land, the Constitution. Obama, a graduate of Harvard law school who apparently learned little, has violated his oath of office. Impeach him.

Shame. Shame on the U.S., its leaders and its people.

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