I've listened to Thom for several years and he's very interesting and informative about economics and some other social issues.
But he's way below or out of his league when it comes to talking about the Immaculate Conception of Mary and alleging that God "raped" Mary spiritually speaking.
Has it ever dawned on so many of our more self-proclaimed-to-be-ever-so-progressive-thinking-Christians that Mary had a free choice in the matter and accepted it. Had she not accepted, she was not going to be struck down with lightening, turned over to Herod on wildly trumped up charges (for whatever that suited the local officials) etc etc. Nobody would have ever heard of her again and the choice of taking God's seed to fruition at birth and raise him as her son would've been offered to another young woman. She said yes not knowing how life would've turned out.
After all, the Magnificat came afterwards.
Here's one question damn few of the biggest social justice crowd folks who cry for justice for the poor and the needy so loudly from one side of their mouths while saying nothing or whispering "take the kid to the local abortion clinic" to some young frightened kid or older woman . . . how much freedom did those girls and women have as they were pressured into having abortion? And I'm talking about millions of those women, some of whom were actually raped by teen boys and older men. No choice there; and certainly little advocacy for real choice making you'll ever hear from the likes of Planned Parenthood and NARAL or Thom Hartmann's mike.
Thom, what do you REALLY have against the Catholics? And by the way, have you ever read what the late Mount Holyoke College scholar and double Pulitzer in both History and Poetry had to say about intellectuals and Catholicism? Take a look, then have a nice moment of circumspection before Christmas. It'll do you wonders. It won't even leave you feeling spiritually harmed, either; much less raped by God as you did regarding Mary.