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By using the word "stuff" the question itself is leading and wants to nudge the reader into making a judgment insofar as to whether or not Koch Industries ... as separate from the Koch brothers, Charles and David, just wants the American (and its international markets) to just buy whatever they put out, regarless whether the products offer real value. It's just "stuff."

I guess one might say Georgia Pacific lumber supplies are pretty popular with many carpenters and especially building contractors, no matter what their particular political views happen to be. From Charles' on down, Koch Industries relies upon its Market Based Management (which seems to have done pretty well for the company just going by any reliable retail and industrial statistical research firm) because it forces the company to put the interests of the buying public first and foremost.

It's time to start separating Koch Industries from the political leanings of the Koch brothers. Otherwise, continuing to slam and smear an entire company of 60,000 workers, a third of which happen to be unionized, too) just to "get' at the firm makes progressives look foolish, much like Harry Reid. This drumbeat's gone too long. At least compared to hedge-funder George Soros ... who produces what ???? ... at least the Kochs make their products here at home and the natives, with apologies to Madison Avenue, like what they make for so many different positive purposes.


Legend 3 years 24 weeks ago

The paper industry is among the worse for polluting water. Heavy in chemicals and needs lots of water. The Kochs sell petroleum coke, which is so polluting it is illegal to use in the USA. It is a fine powder and they have mounds of it in Detroi and Chicage that blows all over the neighborhoods. I am sure that this is just a start with these guys. They want to eliminate the EPA for a reason. What do all of the Republican candidates say that they are going to do? Eliminate the EPA. Required to get Koch Money.

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telliottmbamsc 3 years 24 weeks ago

Here in Wisconsin the Kochs have taken and cost us more than they have given. Especially when you consider the consequences of stuffing that boob scott walker down our throats.

The Kochs are a net drain on American Society, and when you consider Climate Change, the Kochs are a net drain on all of humanity.


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