Black teens were 21 times more likely than white teens to be shot and killed by police between 2010 and 2012, according to a ProPublica analysis of the FBI data.

As of 29 August 2015 , 787 citizens have been shot dead by US police, a majority have been black.

http://killedbypolice.net/

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jflum 4 years 11 weeks ago
#1

"Cop shot dead"

Good

A casuality of Koch&CO's war on the working man

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zapdam 4 years 11 weeks ago
#2

No not good. That cop had a family, extended family ALL crushed by his death.

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hollygolightly 4 years 11 weeks ago
#3

"Black teens were 21 times more likely than white teens to be shot and killed by police between 2010 and 2012, according to a ProPublica analysis of the FBI data. As of 29 August 2015 , 787 citizens have been shot dead by US police, a majority have been black."

Your point is?

jflum 4 years 11 weeks ago
#4

#2. Too F******bad. We are in a war. There are casualities in war

How many cops have to die before they get the idea that REAL Americans don't want a police state...it is against the Declaration of Independence.

Are cops THAT f*******stupid....then they deserve to be fired or have their arrest powers taken away.

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zapdam 4 years 11 weeks ago
#5

hollygolightly.. you've just proven you're part of the problem in America . When you can post below and not realize cops gunning down 787 citizens in just 8 months, most of them minorities isn't wrong, i might as while try to rationalize with my kitchen door knob for all the good it will do having a debate with you. America is a sick society, people like you give it no chance of recovery.

"Black teens were 21 times more likely than white teens to be shot and killed by police between 2010 and 2012, according to a ProPublica analysis of the FBI data. As of 29 August 2015 , 787 citizens have been shot dead by US police, a majority have been black."

Your point is?

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hollygolightly 4 years 11 weeks ago
#6
Quote zapdam:

hollygolightly.. you've just proven you're part of the problem in America . When you can post below and not realize cops gunning down 787 citizens in just 8 months, most of them minorities isn't wrong, i might as while try to rationalize with my kitchen door knob for all the good it will do having a debate with you. America is a sick society, people like you give it no chance of recovery.

"Black teens were 21 times more likely than white teens to be shot and killed by police between 2010 and 2012, according to a ProPublica analysis of the FBI data. As of 29 August 2015 , 787 citizens have been shot dead by US police, a majority have been black."

Your point is?

Would you be shut up if the cops just went out and randomly shot a porporational number of white people? Is that what you are complaining about, the ratio of dead blacks to whites? The ratio of teen black crime as opposed to whites crime? Exactly what are you complaining about?

My point is,

You don't live in the United States. Our laws do not affect you. You would do well to spend your time complaining on Canadian forums about how your country should be run.

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billsmith 4 years 11 weeks ago
#7

Holly they suffer from pareidolia. They see things that are not there. and rational thought is out the window

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Palindromedary 4 years 11 weeks ago
#8

Here is a photo of the ProPublica staff... how many blacks do you see in this picture? Not as many as was in the KDBJ7 staff photos. In fact, you don't see any blacks at all in thise photo.

And zenzoe tried to show that KDBJ7 was not being fair in their hiring practices nor properly representing the black population because they only had 2 blacks out of 22 staff. They also had one that was from somewhere in India or Pakistan (which the British used to classify as "black". I suppose you could call them "melanic"! ;-}

In fact, I don't see any blacks in the ProPublica photo at all. Anyone smell hippocracy, here? A liberal publication that talks black yet doesn't hire blacks themselves? Not one! Since blacks are only 1/7th of the population... in order to understand what would be the fair hiring practice you need to have 1/7 of 22 which would be 3.1428 blacks. It does show that KDBJ7 did have the right balance of blacks to whites according to the ratio of blacks to whites in the total US population.

If KDBJ7 had more than 3 blacks on the staff of 22, then blacks would have been over represented. A lot of people don't look at these differences in race populations and seem to think that if you have 11 whites on staff then you should have 11 blacks on staff as well. That is just not right. Then, what about the other races? Like Chinese or Russian or Hispanic, American Indian, etc, etc? Being politically correct to suit everyone would be a total nightmare. I think it is sheer folly to try to please everyone all the time.

https://www.propublica.org/about/

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Palindromedary 4 years 11 weeks ago
#9
Quote zapdam:Black teens were 21 times more likely than white teens to be shot and killed by police between 2010 and 2012, according to a ProPublica analysis of the FBI data.

As of 29 August 2015 , 787 citizens have been shot dead by US police, a majority have been black.


What that article doesn't say is how many of those black teens were threatening the lives of the police compared to the number of white teens who were threatening the lives of the police. Police have a right to protect their own lives even if they aggressively trying to fight crime. That is their job to not only protect the innocent public but to also protect themselves all the while they have to be aggressive enough to deal with very aggressive and threatening criminals.

I see that all you did, zapdam, is to parrot what some left-wing biased periodical said and you didn't even go to the FBI web site to fully understand what the real numbers reflect. I have! And what those numbers reflect is that even though blacks are a minority (about 1/7th of the total US population), they have a higher likelyhood of committing crimes like robberies, armed home invasions, car jacking, and murder than the majority white population.

So, who is kidding whom? You, who claim that blacks are being mistreated and who are being killed by whites...look at these statistics:
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According to the FBI 2013 homicide statistics:
Whites killed 189 blacks and 2,509 whites.
Blacks killed 409 whites and 2,245 blacks.

Blacks killed twice as many whites as whites killed blacks.
Blacks killed just about as many blacks as whites killed whites.

Since blacks are only about 1/7th of the population of the US, to be on par with whites (based on the total population of each), blacks should have only killed 27 whites and only 358 blacks.

Compare:
blacks that killed whites: 409
what blacks should have killed to be on par with whites: 27

blacks that killed blacks: 1,245
what blacks should have killed to be on par with whites: 358

This shows that a higher percentage of the total black population are more violent than the percentage of the total white population.

If whites had killed as many as blacks have killed, as a percentage of their populations:

whites should have killed 2863 blacks
whites should have killed 15,715 whites

https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the...

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So, if you were a cop who would you go after to have the best chance of finding a murderer? I think the answer is obvious!
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The 2013 FBI statistics on the number of officers killed by offenders show that: "15 of the alleged offenders were white, 11 were black, and race was not reported for 2 offenders." And if you ignore the fact that blacks are only 1/7th of the population of the US, it looks like whites are more likely to kill police than blacks, but that would be incorrect. If you do the math, you will find that blacks are more likely to kill police than whites are.
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2013 US Census Bureau estamates:
Blacks 45,003,665 14.1% of total US population
Whites 245,532,000 77.8% of total US population
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% of whites that killed cops .000006109% (cops killed/white population)
(15/245,532,000=.000006109%)
% of blacks that killed cops .000024442% (cops killed/black population)
(11/45,003,665=.00002442%)

Blacks have killed 4 times as many cops, as shown by the 2013 FBI statistics, as whites have killed cops, as a percentage of their respective populations.
(.000024442/.000006109 = 4.00098)

So, cops are 4 times as likely of being killed by blacks as they are of being killed by whites... at least they were in 2013. I believe that since the Black Lies Matters movement, and what we have been seeing in the rise of cop killings by blacks, lately, these numbers will go up.

https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/leoka/2013/officers-feloniously-ki...
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Palindromedary 4 years 11 weeks ago
#10

What that ProPublica article and those who did those so called "studies" failed to take into consideration is "WHY" did the police have to shoot so many blacks as compared to whites! They completely ingnore the reasons why. Were most of those police shootings in self-defense? Did most of those blacks represent a greater threat to the policeman's life by shooting at the police? Don't the police have a right to shoot back and kill someone that is shooting at them? And then, even if the perp isn't shooting at them or even if they don't have a gun, they might have some other weapon, a knife, a 2 by 4, even if they are big as bull elephants they are dangerous enough to kill a cop. Just the realization, based upon the knowlege of the statistics, that police have about who is most likely to be the most criminal and the most dangerous (perhaps based upon FBI statistics when you take the respective racial populations into consideration) is enough to make police more alert as to the likelyhood of being killed by a black compared to a white. In other words, police may realize that blacks are usually more criminal and more dangerous than whites. They seem to be more emotional and irrational and more apt to flight or fight than whites. As we have seen, lately, they will sneak up on people and shoot them in the back. They write threatening, racist and terrorist screeds which should alert some people in control of the media they write and broadcast in. Hopefully DHS is on top of it before these people do something really bad.

Instant-RunOff-... 4 years 11 weeks ago
#11

I blame all this on the ruling elites who fear the citizens will rise up against their oppression and the plutocrats forcing increasing poverty on the 99%, while these parasites just keep stealing more an more of the wealth of the nation, while giving back zip. I'm sure somewhere you can trace policies of changing policing from community based and emphasizing professionalism of law enforcement to militarization and efforts to seperate the police from the community ostensibly they are supposed to serve. "Protect and Serve" has become "Subjugate and Intimidate"

The Militarization of U.S. Police: Finally Dragged Into the Light by the Horrors of Ferguson:

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/08/14/militarization-u-s-police-...

The Myth of the Hero Cop. Police officers earn more than you think for a job that’s less dangerous than you imagine:

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2015/05/the_myt...

American shakedown: Police won't charge you, but they'll grab your money:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/american-shakedown-police-won-t-charge-you-...

‘Rat Cop' Joe Crystal Shunned From Baltimore Police Department After Reporting Officer Brutality:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/16/baltimore-joe-crystal_n_7582374...

Ex-BPD Cop Joe Crystal Blew The Whistle On Corrupt Police & Paid The Price (Interview w/ Cenk Uygur):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tG1iMrG09s

New documents prove what was once dismissed as paranoid fantasy: totally integrated corporate-state repression of dissent revealed: how the FBI coordinated the crackdown on Occupy by Naomi Wolf:

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/dec/29/fbi-coordinated-cra...

"...The documents, released after long delay in the week between Christmas and New Year, show a nationwide meta-plot unfolding in city after city in an Orwellian world: six American universities are sites where campus police funneled information about students involved with OWS to the FBI, with the administrations' knowledge (p51); banks sat down with FBI officials to pool information about OWS protesters harvested by private security; plans to crush Occupy events, planned for a month down the road, were made by the FBI – and offered to the representatives of the same organizations that the protests would target; and even threats of the assassination of OWS leaders by sniper fire – by whom? Where? – now remain redacted and undisclosed to those American citizens in danger, contrary to standard FBI practice to inform the person concerned when there is a threat against a political leader (p61)...."

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DdC 4 years 11 weeks ago
#12

So now if the cops protest, the black community get to beat the shit out of them and spray them with tear gas? It had nothing to do with guns falling into the wrong hands. All those guns that are stolen, to be replaced with more NRA subsidiary profits in gun manufacturing. Just as long as you don't check them out beforehand. Might prevent a sale. Tragedy brought on by Neoconstipation. RIP

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DdC 4 years 11 weeks ago
#13

MISSION CREEP: Feds help militarize police agencies
The U.S. Department of Homeland Security has spent billions of tax dollars since 2003 outfitting state and local law enforcement agencies with “Punt Guns” – used for hunting dissidents, it has the potential to take down 50 protesters in one fell swoop.

jflum 4 years 11 weeks ago
#14

STOP THE POLICE STATE !!!! DO SOMETHING

Get a cop fired

Get a police commander reassigned

Make the police change the rules of engagement

Take the guns away from cops

DO NOT EVER CO-OPERATE WITH A COP...THEY ARE THE ENEMY

Get the budget to the cops cut in half

In Houghton county...go after the cops wives. ( Rules of engagement that Police Chief Rafelli established.

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Robindell 4 years 11 weeks ago
#15

Paleydome never heard the statement, "You can prove anything with statistics." The number of blacks involved with crime in general or with specific types of crimes doesn't address anything. Even experts have limited understanding as to why problems exist to a greater extent in certain communities compared to others, but they have a clearly, more objective analysis than can be found with people who stick to and go no futher than elaborating their biases. Uneducated people like jflum have nothing rational or helpful to say. One thing is clear: these blogs are a waste of time.

jflum 4 years 11 weeks ago
#16

Yeah, no education...National Merit finalist, Architecture graduate of University of Detroit, Mensa, Listing in Who's Who in the World, 20 years PRACTICAL experience working the streets of Detroit. Why listen to jflum...Sounds like he's a real idiot.

You want fucking solutions? Listen to me....I GET THINGS DONE

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Patriot Ex 4 years 11 weeks ago
#17

Funny, Camelboy (the "hump" as some refer to him as) fails to provide statistics on how many black people are murdered nationally by cops...oh wait, I forgot they hide that information, or don't keep it at all. Now why do ya suppose that is? Also, where are the "statistics" on how many cops are murdered by black people? I bet most are killed by whites, I'd bet my sister's panties.

The "hump" is a chump.

jflum 4 years 11 weeks ago
#18

#10 Blacks have a different culture than whites ( Thank God )

Their culture is much more animated, more social, more Soul and they express it. ( just watch a black church revival meeting)

In Farminton Hills, we had a subdivion of boring boxes with no people outside. They even took a homeowner to court because he painted his trim purple. Then a black family moved in. Young kids running around having FUN, teens playing basketball, visitors coming over to party on the back deck......THE HOUSE WAS ALIVE.

And I am sure the rest of the homeowners locked their doors for fear of people having FUN...don't you know, that's a SIN, you have to SUFFER to be a good christian

I used to drive in inner city Detroit. The black kids would pretend there was a race riot just to get a rise out of whitey. I used to smile and wave at them. And they would stop and wave back.

My wife's third husband was black, and she told stories of the courage and fortitude of the Detroit blacks...the hard-working folks who came from the South and worked in the auto plants. the custom drapes ( that she sold) and French provincial furniture thay sat on ( my mother thought they ALL sat on orange crates.) the after hours gambling joint that would put Lost Vegas to shame.

So palidromedary....please....SHUT UP

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